Cancel culture IRL

[d4m10n]

Yes, those are probably better examples than this story, where literally no one got cancelled.

Do you think anyone could have reasonably foreseen that specific outcome when the original tweet was only a day old? Just curious, really, I don't think the outcome matters so much as the intended outcome when evaluating an attempt at public shaming.

 

[Emily's Cat]

Been in a few threads like this and so far the ones who claim this is all new and terrible and want "it" to stop don't have any ideas on how to make it stop.

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So what else do they want to be made illegal to stop this new "cancel culture"?

Darat do you have me on ignore? Or are you just completely pretending my posts don't exist?

 

[Emily's Cat]

the notion that a single offense which isn't in the category of theft or assault deserves a firing is a really ****** up one.

 

[Emily's Cat]

Cherry picking internet nuts isn't proof of much of anything. Kroeger Andy was never cancelled.

Cherry picking news articles isn't proof of much of anything. This black guy over here was never killed by the police.

 

[ponderingturtle]

Edit just to add emphasis : the notion that a single offense which isn't in the category of theft or assault deserves a firing is a really ****** up one.

So we finally have someone willing to call the firing of these officers cancel culture and really ****** up?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/three-north-carolina-police-officers-fired-racial-slurs-video/

 

[Emily's Cat]

Why bother?

As far as I can tell, Kroeger Andy wasn't even close to being cancelled.

Why bother? As far as I can tell, that black guy over there wasn't even close to being killed.

 

[Emily's Cat]

Do you think it's worthwhile to wring your hands over the failed attempts of internet weirdos? There is so much irrelevant nonsense going on on the web, why does this incident merit attention?

Do you think it's worthwhile to wring your hands of the times the police failed to successfully kill a black guy? There is so much irrelevant nonsense going on with cops, why does this incident merit attention?

 

[ponderingturtle]

Cherry picking news articles isn't proof of much of anything. This black guy over here was never killed by the police.

Which is why we ask about positive cases of this existing. Yet you refuse to make any kind of statement for or against the firing of people in many of the cases I bring up. Were they an appropriate response or cancel culture?

 

[ponderingturtle]

Edit just to add emphasis : the notion that a single offense which isn't in the category of theft or assault deserves a firing is a really ****** up one.

So as no theft of assault that would mean this firing is really ****** up then?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/three-north-carolina-police-officers-fired-racial-slurs-video/

 

[Distracted1]

So we finally have someone willing to call the firing of these officers cancel culture and really ****** up?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/three-north-carolina-police-officers-fired-racial-slurs-video/

The interactions were monitored by one of the cops' supervisors, and took place while on the job.
Does not seem to qualify from any angle.

 

[Emily's Cat]

Yes, this example pretty clearly illustrates that cancel culture isn't nearly as unreasonable and unhinged as some people seem to believe.

Yes, this example pretty clearly illustrates that cop brutality against black people isn't nearly as widespread and vicious as some people seem to believe.

 

[ponderingturtle]

The interactions were monitored by one of the cops' supervisors, and took place while on the job.
Does not seem to qualify from any angle.

So if the conversation was off duty at a party it would be ok then and they shouldn't be fired. It was only becasue they were BSing on duty about it.

 

[Emily's Cat]

Yes, those are probably better examples than this story, where literally no one got cancelled.

But they're still examples that you seem to dismiss...

 

[Dr. Keith]

She apparently said "White Lives Matter More." I don't know how you figure that as unfalsifiable unless she was being satirical (which makes her a sick person because who does that??).

Confusion arises when people start to infer. Some have inferred (in bad faith) that "Black Lives Matter" means ONLY Black Lives Matter, but that's not the case at all.

A better way of explaining a racist comment might point to the heat of the moment, or claim intoxication. For some reason people usually assume that what was not said on purpose is truer than what was said on purpose.

<<chef's kiss>>

 

[ponderingturtle]

Yes, this example pretty clearly illustrates that cop brutality against black people isn't nearly as widespread and vicious as some people seem to believe.

Ah the black people are crappy drivers defense. Clearly they must be because there is no way to explain the higher rates of being pulled over and wide spread racism is clearly not a realistic posibility.

 

[Distracted1]

So if the conversation was off duty at a party it would be ok then and they shouldn't be fired. It was only becasue they were BSing on duty about it.

Maybe, maybe not.
If the conversation were off duty, how would the PD even be considering it?

 

[Distracted1]

Ah the black people are crappy drivers defense. Clearly they must be because there is no way to explain the higher rates of being pulled over and wide spread racism is clearly not a realistic posibility.

A "realistic possibility" is exactly what it is.

 

[Dr. Keith]

Seems like there is always a rush to paint these incidents as unhinged cancel culture, and often a closer look reveals that the punishment is fairly proportionate to the offense.

That doesn't sound like something that deserves much discussion, much less righteous outrage. You can't possibly be right.

 

[ponderingturtle]

Maybe, maybe not.
If the conversation were off duty, how would the PD even be considering it?

Social media is great for that.

 

[Dr. Keith]

I've no idea how many Twitter lunatics it takes to get someone sacked, but you must know that it sometimes happens. Do you think the individuals calling for Andy to be sacked were doing something worthwhile?

I think the key here is not the number of twidiots pile on, it is whether the actions being published are a problem for the employer.

Kroger saw an employee doing as instructed by corporate. Kroger gave those instructions so it would be HR suicide to fire the guy. Even if they change their policy, which I see no evidence of them doing.