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Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 23

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The Don said:
I note that the Bitcoin Twitter hack seems to have been targeted at President Trump's political and personal opponents:



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-53425822

Whilst I don't think that this was orchestrated by the Trump Campaign or even requested or endorsed by the President or GOP, might it have been carried out by groups and/or countries for whom the reelection of President Trump would be beneficial ?
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He attracts the best people.
 
Ladewig said:
I expect something more like “Because the extreme left cares more about cows than people, they want to replace beef with human flesh. They are already test marketing Soylent Green.”
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No way. Humans fart too much methane, contributing to global warming, representing an existential risk to cows in coastal areas.
 
The Repuiblican governor of Maryland assesses Trump's pandemic response.
Eventually, it was clear that waiting around for the president to run the nation’s response was hopeless; if we delayed any longer, we’d be condemning more of our citizens to suffering and death. So every governor went their own way, which is how the United States ended up with such a patchwork response. I did the best I could for Maryland. Here’s what we saw and heard from Washington along the way.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/outl...navirus/?arc404=true&itid=lk_inline_manual_24
 
Belz... said:
Sometimes I wonder if they're trying to kill as many people as possible.
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I don't. That's clearly the aim, in a banally evil well-it's-not-my-fault sort of way. The bigger a mess they can make by January, the easier it will be to blame the Democrats for not cleaning it up. Whether that's measured in dollars or lives is immaterial.
 
kookbreaker said:
Apparently data is already disappearing with the new ‘report to the White House’ policy.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/16/us-...stration-shifted-control-from-cdc-to-hhs.html

But don’t worry, Trump isn’t uniquely bad.
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Of course it is. If you cannot manage the pandemic, then you do your best to suppress information showing how badly you're managing it.

Now the Trump Administration is in the happy position that any information from anyone other than the Trump Campaign Administration can simply be dismissed out of hand as being unofficial data and hence #Fakenews and the official figures can be as manipulated as they like.

I expect to see numbers of infections and deaths to fall dramatically as definitions are changed and data is simply "lost".

For example, if the definition of Coronavirus Case is changed from "having a positive test" to "having a positive test and being hospitalised" then infection numbers can be reduced 95%.

If the definition of Coronavirus Death is changed so that to be classified as such you have to die, in hospital, with multiple positive Coronavirus test results and no conditions (either pre-existing or at the time of death) which may have contributed to your death, and death numbers will likely be reduced significantly.

The Trump Administration can then claim to have beaten Coronavirus once the incompetent CDC were removed from the picture. :rolleyes:
 
The Trumpers already have the excuses ready. You see the CDC was inflating the numbers and putting people who didn't die of COVID but just happened to die while they had COVID on the list. Trump will tell us the truth.
 
JoeMorgue said:
The Trumpers already have the excuses ready. You see the CDC was inflating the numbers and putting people who didn't die of COVID but just happened to die while they had COVID on the list. Trump will tell us the truth.
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Exactly this ! :(

And with no independent figures, there'll be no reliable way to counter the Trump Administration's lies. :mad:
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
You know how Ivanka shilled for Goya in a breach of ethics rules? Well, her dad's got in on the act, too, posing with their products in the Oval Office.
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Utterly astonishing. He has said and done so many weird things, but in a bizarre way this is in the first division of weirdness. I was going to post that it *had* to be photoshopped, but it's being reported all over, plus those refections on the desk must be a bitch to photoshop.
 
The Don said:
Exactly this ! :(

And with no independent figures, there'll be no reliable way to counter the Trump Administration's lies. :mad:
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Do counties collect their data? My county has a web site with covid updates daily: cases, ICU beds, deaths, etc. Couldn't states collect data from counties? At that point it would be a simple matter to collect data from the states.
 
Paul2 said:
Do counties collect their data? My county has a web site with covid updates daily: cases, ICU beds, deaths, etc. Couldn't states collect data from counties? At that point it would be a simple matter to collect data from the states.
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But that's how it works. You give people an alternative source of information.

The actual facts aren't hard to get. What this move allows people do to do is point at another set of facts and create the illusion that there is debate.

There's an old, rather cliched saying that a man with one watch always knows the time, a man with two watches is never sure.

This is slapping another watch on our wrists.
 
JoeMorgue said:
But that's how it works. You give people an alternative source of information.

The actual facts aren't hard to get. What this move allows people do to do is point at another set of facts and create the illusion that there is debate.

There's an old, rather cliched saying that a man with one watch always knows the time, a man with two watches is never sure.

This is slapping another watch on our wrists.
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Agreed, but this was being discussed as if the TrumpInfo would then be the only info out there, and then impossible to counter. I just wanted to mention that the actual facts could still be collected and presented.
 
JoeMorgue said:
But that's how it works. You give people an alternative source of information.

The actual facts aren't hard to get. What this move allows people do to do is point at another set of facts and create the illusion that there is debate.

There's an old, rather cliched saying that a man with one watch always knows the time, a man with two watches is never sure.

This is slapping another watch on our wrists.
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In this case I can probably guess which watch will always be (s)low.
 
Paul2 said:
Do counties collect their data? My county has a web site with covid updates daily: cases, ICU beds, deaths, etc. Couldn't states collect data from counties? At that point it would be a simple matter to collect data from the states.
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They can, but they won't be the *official* data and so can be dismissed by the Trump Administration as fake news from dubious sources. :mad:
 
JoeMorgue said:
But that's how it works. You give people an alternative source of information.

The actual facts aren't hard to get. What this move allows people do to do is point at another set of facts and create the illusion that there is debate.

There's an old, rather cliched saying that a man with one watch always knows the time, a man with two watches is never sure.

This is slapping another watch on our wrists.
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Also, it's worth pointing out that while the actual facts might not be hard to get, forcing interested parties to get the facts from not quite innumerable local sources... repeatedly, because those numbers change over time, makes for a heck of a lot of extra effort and room for error.
 
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