Jim_MDP
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Really? I'd go the other way...
Hey Telco, your mast is hideous and you didnt ask. Drop me a fiber hard line and give me forever "free net" and I wont campaign against it.
But then... I'm not "sensitive". [emoji1]
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Hey Telco, your mast is hideous and you didnt ask. Drop me a fiber hard line and give me forever "free net" and I wont campaign against it.
But then... I'm not "sensitive". [emoji1]
Cosmic Yak
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I thought I remembered you asking for donations earlier in the thread, so I had a little look, and behold! You're lying again:
Naughty, naughty....
Spektator
Is that right?
An angelic voice spoke to me with a prediction.
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I think we can re-characterise this entire thread.
Partskeptic claims he is a prophet and has self published a book on his prophesies for profit.. His claims to be able to discern electromagnetic radiation at certain levels and frequencies, on a science based forum as bait.. He is directly asking for donations.
Yet, if he really believed his own claim, he could make an application to undertake a scientific experiment and receive $250,000 from a skeptic organisation that we have linked him to. Yet he won't do that.
He is simply trying to keep his prophesy ball in the air.
PartSkeptic
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Back from a great stay at the Spa. But three nights of withdrawal were very hard. From the website was this quote.
'The Body - a guide for occupants' by Bill Bryson. This quirky book from the creator of 'A Short History of Nearly Everything' should be mandatory reading to anyone who possesses a body.
I think my favourite line in it remains from his chapter on how to build a human: "Altogether it takes seven billion billion billion (that's 7 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 or seven octillion) atoms to make you. No one can say why those seven billion billion billion atoms have such an urgent desire to be you. They are mindless particles, after all, without a single thought or notion between them"
'The Body - a guide for occupants' by Bill Bryson. This quirky book from the creator of 'A Short History of Nearly Everything' should be mandatory reading to anyone who possesses a body.
I think my favourite line in it remains from his chapter on how to build a human: "Altogether it takes seven billion billion billion (that's 7 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 or seven octillion) atoms to make you. No one can say why those seven billion billion billion atoms have such an urgent desire to be you. They are mindless particles, after all, without a single thought or notion between them"
PartSkeptic
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I am not ASKING for money, but if someone is giving it away I will not say no.
PartSkeptic
Illuminator
Apparently the laws say that the Telcos can plant such a mast in your swimming pool WITHOUT even informing you. But the ConCourt has ruled that Municipalities can govern the placement of such masts. They make reference to an application with PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.
The Telco fraudulently stated that they had served 7 properties with notice so they could object. They did not serve the letters. The letters were misaddressed and not as the list the PO stamped. The tracing clearly shows they were returned to sender.
And the judge who dismissed the leave to condone the lateness, did not take issue with that. The judge who shut the tower down DID.
You reckon this is just my bad luck? Until it happens to you.
This brings up the question. How moral do you think the world has become? I think it has sunk quite low when I see fraud and corruption in everything happening around me and NO justice system to give me justice.
Hence God's need to fix the world.
PartSkeptic
Illuminator
Not for a religion. Having to pay for testing is another matter. You are conflating the two issues.
How moral has the world ever been? I'm at a loss to conjure up the times when morality ran amok.
Rhetorical. I dont seek an answer.
Rhetorical. I dont seek an answer.
JayUtah
Penultimate Amazing
False. You were literally soliciting donations. Further, you were doing so with the idea that people who donated would be undertaking risk on your behalf by doing so, not just giving away surplus. So yes, when you are trying to tell us that's not what you're doing, you're lying.
JayUtah
Penultimate Amazing
Why does it matter? You're asking other people to "put skin in the game" on the basis of your claims. It hardly matters whether those claims are that you're a prophet or that you're hypersensitive to electromagnetic radiation. If you're asking people to put fiduciary faith in claims you're not willing to provide evidence for yourself, you're hardly in a position to lament the morality of the world. Get over yourself.
PartSkeptic
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To Pixel42:
Do you still maintain that there are exceptions to the "Law" of Cause and Effect?
You mentioned radioactive decay as a phenomenon without a cause. While I believe that the supernatural exists and breaks the laws of physics, I do not believe in physics that have "spooky" at a distance and unexplainable uncaused events. I checked up on decay. It seems the molecule is unstable but needs an underlying cause to trigger the decay. Quantum vacuum fluctuations appears to be the "cause". Just as I explained with the gas laws one cannot know when a molecule hits a specific spot, only that given enough time it will happen.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioactive_decay#Theoretical_basis_of_decay_phenomena
The decay process, like all hindered energy transformations, may be analogized by a snowfield on a mountain. While friction between the ice crystals may be supporting the snow's weight, the system is inherently unstable with regard to a state of lower potential energy. A disturbance would thus facilitate the path to a state of greater entropy; the system will move towards the ground state, producing heat, and the total energy will be distributable over a larger number of quantum states thus resulting in an avalanche. The total energy does not change in this process, but, because of the second law of thermodynamics, avalanches have only been observed in one direction and that is toward the "ground state" — the state with the largest number of ways in which the available energy could be distributed.
Such a collapse (a gamma-ray decay event) requires a specific activation energy. For a snow avalanche, this energy comes as a disturbance from outside the system, although such disturbances can be arbitrarily small. In the case of an excited atomic nucleus decaying by gamma radiation in a spontaneous emission of electromagnetic radiation, the arbitrarily small disturbance comes from quantum vacuum fluctuations.
Do you have another example of effect without a cause?
Do you still maintain that there are exceptions to the "Law" of Cause and Effect?
You mentioned radioactive decay as a phenomenon without a cause. While I believe that the supernatural exists and breaks the laws of physics, I do not believe in physics that have "spooky" at a distance and unexplainable uncaused events. I checked up on decay. It seems the molecule is unstable but needs an underlying cause to trigger the decay. Quantum vacuum fluctuations appears to be the "cause". Just as I explained with the gas laws one cannot know when a molecule hits a specific spot, only that given enough time it will happen.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioactive_decay#Theoretical_basis_of_decay_phenomena
The decay process, like all hindered energy transformations, may be analogized by a snowfield on a mountain. While friction between the ice crystals may be supporting the snow's weight, the system is inherently unstable with regard to a state of lower potential energy. A disturbance would thus facilitate the path to a state of greater entropy; the system will move towards the ground state, producing heat, and the total energy will be distributable over a larger number of quantum states thus resulting in an avalanche. The total energy does not change in this process, but, because of the second law of thermodynamics, avalanches have only been observed in one direction and that is toward the "ground state" — the state with the largest number of ways in which the available energy could be distributed.
Such a collapse (a gamma-ray decay event) requires a specific activation energy. For a snow avalanche, this energy comes as a disturbance from outside the system, although such disturbances can be arbitrarily small. In the case of an excited atomic nucleus decaying by gamma radiation in a spontaneous emission of electromagnetic radiation, the arbitrarily small disturbance comes from quantum vacuum fluctuations.
Do you have another example of effect without a cause?
JayUtah
Penultimate Amazing
Physics doesn't care whether you believe in it or not.
No. You ran to Wikipedia -- as would any layman -- and proceeded to misunderstand the analogy it gave.
It does in the analogy, but not in actuality.
No. It is the observed effect.
It is a mistake to try to understand quantum electrodynamics by analogy to kinetic gas laws.
PartSkeptic
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The world has had societies that have morals (rules of ethics to govern them). The set of morals usually include "Do not lie and steal". But people are globally routinely doing this for profit. Why? Because global society (driven by media funded by business) promotes anarchy and selfishness instead of community and fellowman.
Pre-war Germany was an example of a stable society in which Jews lived and benefited. It produced great scientists and thinkers - Einstein being the most notable. They in turn, were a great benefit to Germany. But there was a flood of Jews into Germany who did not fit into the stable system and Berlin became a moral mess. Among all the other factors, it contributed to the making Jews a target for the Nazis. We all know how that ended.
The world now has businessmen of all religions and ethnic groups doing the same. Anything goes, and profit is king. This means global problems are "not my problem", so bombs can be sold to Saudi Arabia to drop on Yemen. Carbon dioxide production is second to profit and growth (hint - listen to Trump).
So the solution must be global. And for those who believe there is a God they have no problem agreeing with the hypothesis that a global Pandemic is a solution.
For those who believe in Heaven and Hell, they are concerned about whether they qualify to get into "The Good Place". (BTW - an interesting Netflix series.)
Ignoring a calamity will not stop the consequences. Seeing it coming and avoiding it if possible it better than a "head in the sand." When you are judged in the afterlife it will be too late to say you (and many others) were not concerned about consequences. I KNOW judgement happens and I have been to where I am going. The Game of Life dreamed up by the Ultimate Intelligence provides for ultimate justice.
Are there any believers on this forum? If so, do you agree?
JayUtah
Penultimate Amazing
Whereas religion has no such ulterior motives.
You do realize, of course, that most of the groups you cribbed your anti-5G rhetoric from are not really scientists or environmentalists, but rather anti-capitalists. Are you prepare to copy their rhetoric and still claim your only agenda is beneficence?
No, not all gods advocate killing their believers on a mass scale. Disasters happen naturally, without provocation. Skeptics realize this and hope simply to deal with the consequences. It's the religionists who need to ascribe some sort of kill-the-wicked motive to it in order to fit their worldview. This is why some of them go off the deep end and fly airplanes into buildings.
Which in no way motivates them to selfish behavior. It certainly would never lead people to claim they have a special status according to those criteria.
Nor will misattributing it.
You're speaking to skeptics. You really need to learn to read the room.
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Cosmic Yak
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I....honestly...I....I am completely lost for words. You're not even PRETENDING any more.
Pixel42
Schrödinger's cat
Bill Bryson is a great comic writer, I've read several of his books, but he is hardly a sage. This self contradictory quote is far from being his best work.
As immoral as the world currently is, it was certainly far more so in the past. Despite the two steps forward/one step back nature of increasing liberalism, and the recent rise of exceptionally immoral populist leaders like Trump, I believe the underlying trend for gradual improvement continues.
Yes, my understanding is as JayUtah summarises.
Cosmic Yak
Philosopher
You really have no idea what you're talking about, do you?
Still no idea.
That'll be the Einstein who renounced his German citizenship in 1896, having moved to Switzerland the year before, right? The Einstein who refused to return to Germany in 1933? Or are you thinking of another Einstein?
Citation needed.
Quoted in full just to emphasise the full horror of what you've said here.
It is possible I am simply misreading this, so perhaps you could correct me if this is not full-on, in-your-face, anti-semitism.
The very existence of Jews made them a target, and somehow this is their fault? 'Disgusting' would be an understatement.
No, only someone who justifies genocide would then go on to worship a genocidal god. I would also be careful about trying to rope the world's religious believers into your sick fantasies. I suspect the vast majority of them would be quite reluctant to join your little genocide cult.
Good luck with that.
p0lka
Illuminator
re the highlighted, what are Quantum vacuum fluctuations?
wiki would probably suffice in this case.
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