$1million Prize for Proving WTC Was Not a Controlled Demolition

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Some conspiracy nuts at a forum I go to have been posting links relating to a current theory that the World Trade Center buildings collapsed due to pre-planned explosions, not due to the structural damage caused by the plane crashes.

Did a few searches, and found this contest, if anyone's interested. I'm not sure my physics and mathematics are up to it, or if it's possible to prove a negative :rolleyes: , but someone here might like to give it a try:

it's at reopen911.org/Contest.

(Sorry, I can't post hyperlinks cos I lurk more than I post.)

You may just want to visit the site to see what the conspiracy-mongers are up to these days.


arcticbeacon.com is another site that's pushing the theory and being quoted fairly widely. I will quote from their latest update:

9/11 Truth Conference Opens inTampa to Crowd of 600; Mainstream Media Again Ignores Event as Censorship Spreads Across Land Like Existed In Nazi Germany

The Asolo Theatre in Sarasoto 'at the last minute' backed out of its deal with 9/11 truth organizers to rent out theatre for Sunday night's scheduled performance. Organizer Jimmy Walter said it looks like an act of outright censorship.
8 Dec 2005

By Greg Szymanski

Jimmy Walter, the millionaire philanthropist pushing the 9/11 truth movement to the streets, said Wednesday the Asolo Theatre in Sarasota, Florida, at “the last minute” backed out of its pre-arranged deal to host a video presentation set for Sunday, the last day of a five-day 9/11 truth conference starting in Tampa.

“They told us today they couldn’t host our event, pulling out at the last minute saying there existed technical difficulties,” said Walter in a phone conversation from his Tampa hotel, where he is kicking-off the first night of his 9/11 truth conference called “The New Pearl Harbor – Confronting the Evidence” at the downtown Tampa Theatre.

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Walter’s truth conference, presenting compelling evidence 9/11 was an inside government job, opened to a crowd of more than 500 to 600 Wednesday night in a theatre that seats 1,400, a good turn-out considering the mainstream media blackout across the country and the disinformation campaign spread by the Bush administration, essentially keeping the American people in the dark about the real 9/11 facts.

And the media was again strangely absent from the opening night 9/11 event, as several in attendance reported no major newspapers or television stations covered the event.

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...WTC janitor and national hero, William Rodriguez, spoke about how he heard explosions in the North Tower basement prior to the airplane strike.

Rodriguez, who saved at least 15 lives before being the last man out of the North Tower, reminded the audience how his statements about WTC basement explosions “have been censored by the mainstream media” as well as being completely omitted in the 9/11 Commission’s final report.
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Also speaking at the five-day Florida event is Morgan Reynolds, the former chief economist in the Bush I administration, who has publicly called for a new 9/11 investigation, adding the evidence points to a controlled demolition of the WTC.

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And regarding the purpose of the five-day 9/11 truth-out, Walter, the event’s organizer said:

“When Vice President Dick Cheney and twenty four Bush officials and friends signed a call in 2000 for a "New Pearl Harbor," as an excuse to invade Iraq; they said it would take "some catastrophic and catalyzing event, like a new Pearl Harbor, to convince the American People that we must invade Iraq to project American military power. Time Magazine called for "a unified Pearl Harbor, sort of purple American fury.”
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Sorry for the length of post, but I haven't seen anything about this in skeptic circles, and thought a bit of background was needed.
 
Articbeacon.com seems to have a gift for being quoted on the internet a lot. As far as I can tell it is completely written and published by a single individual:

Greg Szymanski

A google on his name will pretty much tell the rest of the story.
 
The contest page supercedes all previous ones and all previous offers are withdrawn. 11-Nov-2005
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If you can even figure out what the requirements are it would be worth a million.
 
Thanks, RandFan, and Kopji. :)

We've probably got more chance of winning his $1million by buying a lottery ticket. And I don't mean because he's right.

I just think it's amazing what some people will come up with, or believe. :eye-poppi

You'd be amazed at the number of links cropping up about this in the forum I mentioned. (It's members-only, or I'd refer you to them.) Try reading a number of the links and you'll understand why the mainstream media are ignoring them. :rolleyes: It's good for a laugh, though.
 
Thanks for the heads up. People are amazing. Sadly these stupid things are unfairly compared to Randi's challenge. There is a huge difference.
 
Kopji said:
Articbeacon.com seems to have a gift for being quoted on the internet a lot. As far as I can tell it is completely written and published by a single individual:

Greg Szymanski

A google on his name will pretty much tell the rest of the story.
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Isn't Szymanski that stuff that accumulates under the foreskin if it's not cleaned properly?
 
RandFan said:
Thanks for the heads up. People are amazing. Sadly these stupid things are unfairly compared to Randi's challenge. There is a huge difference.
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You're welcome. Yes, so true. For instance:

The first person to prove explosives were NOT used in all of the above with a full, detailed mathematical analysis covering all of the points above will receive $1,000,000. The proof will be subject to verification by a scientific panel of PHD engineers, physicists, and lawyers.

This offer is void where prohibited by law.

Jimmy Walter
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"a scientific panel of PHD engineers, physicists, and lawyers"

Names? Terms and Conditions of "Proof"????
 
RandFan said:
Thanks for the heads up. People are amazing. Sadly these stupid things are unfairly compared to Randi's challenge. There is a huge difference.
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One is that there is actually one million dollars behind the JREF Challenge...
 
Perforatu said:
Sorry, no cigar... These guys aren't nutty enough to deny that planes flew into the towers. What they claim is that such an event alone would not have been enough to cause the towers to collapse.
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http://reopen911.org/Contest.htm

13) Entrants must prove how the trade towers steel structure was broken apart without explosives in 8.4 seconds.
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Ok...uhhh...planes didn't do it.....explosives didn't do it....hmmmm...
 
So let's see ... someone blew up the twin towers. And minutes beforehand, someone flew aeroplanes into them. They couldn't have been destroyed by the aeroplanes, 'cos apparently that isn't dangerous, dear me no. The aeroplanes just flew into the WTC to make people think that it hadn't been blown up, but just struck by aeroplanes.

And they (whoever "they" are) had to cover up the fact that they were using explosives rather than aeroplanes because otherwise ... otherwise ... otherwise the conspiracy theorists would be wrong.

So instead "they" orchestrated to perfection two (should I say "four"?) completely separate attacks on the twin towers on the same morning, and crashed a couple more 'planes just to make the bluff convincing.

And yet from the comfort of his armchair, a woo-woo has seen through this subtle scheme ... while it eluded the observation of all the forensic experts who actually looked at the scene of the crime. But the woo spotted it 'cos he's sooooo smart.

It's lucky we have uninformed idiots to tell us what's going on, or we wouldn't know anything.
 
I don't have a direct link, and it's been a while since I read anything on the subject, but didn't some experts theorize that the impact of the plane crashes alone probably wasn't enough to cause the collapse? If I remember correctly, it was the extreme heat caused by the explosion of the nearly-full fuel tanks that caused what was left of the structure to weaken.
 
Perforatu said:
I don't have a direct link, and it's been a while since I read anything on the subject, but didn't some experts theorize that the impact of the plane crashes alone probably wasn't enough to cause the collapse? If I remember correctly, it was the extreme heat caused by the explosion of the nearly-full fuel tanks that caused what was left of the structure to weaken.
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My understanding is that neither the heat nor the impact alone could have brought down the buildings, but it is theorised that the combination is what did it.

As I have said before, there are unanswered questions about who knew what when in the days before 9/11 but the idea that ninjas installed invisible explosives in every floor of both buildings without anyone seeing a thing is just ridiculous.
 
Perforatu said:
I don't have a direct link, and it's been a while since I read anything on the subject, but didn't some experts theorize that the impact of the plane crashes alone probably wasn't enough to cause the collapse? If I remember correctly, it was the extreme heat caused by the explosion of the nearly-full fuel tanks that caused what was left of the structure to weaken.
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From what I recall, the impact of the planes blew off the fire resistant foam the structure had. Then the heat weakened the joists, which started bending. That meant a loss of support for the outer columns, and those snapped bringing down the towers.
 
The BBC's Horizon show did a really good analysis of why the Towers came down. At one point, a structural engineer remarks how surprised he was at how LONG the Towers stayed up, given the circumstances.

There is a transcript of this Emmy award winning show at http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2001/worldtradecentertrans.shtml

Blows any conspiracy theory out the water.

"The building fell away from the side into which the jet had crashed. In fact the building fell towards the side where the fire was most concentrated and this suggests that a very particular mechanism was at work. The crucial damage occurred just after the plane smashed into the tower. It slammed along the eastern wall weakening the outer skeleton's steel columns on that side. It also began a fierce fire concentrated in the north-east corner. The theory is the heat of the fire softened not only the floor trusses but also the walls of the outer skeleton they were attached to. When the steel was sufficiently weakened by the heat the walls and the trusses would have pulled apart and without the trusses to hold them rigid the columns of the outer walls started to bend and then fail."

Give me the million please........
 
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