PartSkeptic’s Thread for Predictions and Other Matters of Interest

[Mojo]

PartSkeptic, here are two posts in which you set out your test protocol:

I have been in bed for most of the day. Not well. But I have figured out a possible test under the conditions.

I will lie in bed. My wife will put the modem in the lounge on top of the sofa which is on the other side of the wall. She will flip a coin to decide the first trial of 15 minutes. Heads is on. Then wait 15 minutes with the unit off. The third 15 minutes will be the second test run and the state will be the opposite of the first state. I will wait a fourth 15 minute period in be. I will decide whether the test was on-off or off-on.

I can do this in the morning before I take the pain tablets. And I can try again in the evening at about 7 pm.

When the modem is on, my wife will put on a video on her cell phone in the study, communicating with the modem. We will test the emf in the lounge and in the bedroom where my head will be.
I figure that although I might be in pain, the pain will get much worse when the modem is on. The 15 minutes between is because the effect is often delayed.

My wife bangs on the wall at the beginning of the test. Before she flips the coin. Or I just shout from the bedroom that I am ready.

You know that I can calculate the odds. And do test procedure. We did it for my test of Zener cards.

I will measure the radiation with the Gigahertz HF35C meter. RMS and PEAK in 4 directions. From the wall, from 45 degrees from the wall in the up, left and right.
By what standards do you want success? I am not going to do 1000 tests. I will try 10 to start with. Remember what I said about tests failing because the subjects refuse to continue to subject themselves to harm? Here is such an example. You are setting me up to fail.

Why is the hilighted bit necessary? As far as I can see all that it achieves is to sidetrack the thread into a discussion of the accuracy of your measuring equipment.

Why is it needed?

 

[Pixel42]

Sure. Your error is in thinking that he wants to test his hypothesis. He does not. He wants to cling to it at all cost.

I think the fundamental problem is that he still does not understand why his observations are not sufficient to draw a conclusion, why they are only sufficient to form an hypothesis and test it.

My biggest fear in this, there is some underlying medical condition being neglected because of it.

Mine too, which is the main reason why I've persisted despite the intransigence.

 

[varwoche]

It's the fault of the telcos. And the courts. And the meanies on the internet. And the jews.

 

[PartSkeptic]

I have a lot of commitments, so this is just a quick update. I will expand later.

I will do the test. I want to buy or hire more instrumentation before I go ahead. I will also be arranging for observers and people whose evidence will be solid. I have a long term strategy, so you guys will have to wait. Besides, you have convinced me I will achieve nothing at this point - except perhaps more harm.

Last night I spoke to an EHS sufferer who lives in a retirement village. They use WiFi instead of fiber. She has no electronics in her home. But the nearby WiFi harms her badly. Most of her neighbors agreed to only put their "dongles" (same as the one my wife has) on at certain times when she then retreats to her safe room. Her husband goes to the library with his dongle to watch TV. She sleeps in a separate safe room that she has tried to insulate.

One person would not switch off and she is taking strain. She described how she shielded the room. I told her where she made a mistake and she is going to fix that and let me know how it worked. She got material from the UK that is emf reflective and she has made clothing from it that helps quite a bit. I will recommend she buy a cheap meter. I am investigating making carbon paint for our house.

She suffers from pain all over when exposed.

The post from JU describing confounding factors has a use. When trying to correlate and find causation to Covid-19 deaths, how about using emfs as one factor. I wonder how high the emfs are in nursing homes. I wonder how long some of the residents have had exposure. Would this even be done? NO WAY. The Telco industry would not risk it. They would not like even the suggestion that it might be a factor.

BTW. My wife and I looked at a retirement home. We decided against it mainly because of the WiFi saturation. I checked out a few of these. They were surrounded by cell towers - large and small. They are a big source of income for the complexes and for the Telcos because of the contractual obligations of the residents - part of the deal.

 

[Pixel42]

I will do the test. I want to buy or hire more instrumentation before I go ahead. I will also be arranging for observers and people whose evidence will be solid.

If you're determined to do the very first test of your hypothesis in front of witnesses I can't stop you, but I would remind you yet again of DowserDon. Two university professors and about 20 other people watched him demonstrate that his hypothesis - of which he was 100% certain, based on exactly the kind of anecdotal observations on which yours is based - was false. I would also remind you that every single MDC applicant who got as far as taking the preliminary test could have saved everyone a lot of time and trouble, not to mention themselves public humiliation, if they had first done a dry run of that agreed test privately.

When trying to correlate and find causation to Covid-19 deaths, how about using emfs as one factor. I wonder how high the emfs are in nursing homes. I wonder how long some of the residents have had exposure. Would this even be done? NO WAY. The Telco industry would not risk it. They would not like even the suggestion that it might be a factor.

Once again: there is nothing to stop anyone, including you, doing a study to investigate whether there is such a correlation. 'The Telco industry' would be unable to prevent it, whether they liked the suggestion or not.

 

[EvilBiker]

Last night I spoke to an EHS sufferer who lives in a retirement village. They use WiFi instead of fiber. She has no electronics in her home. But the nearby WiFi harms her badly. Most of her neighbors agreed to only put their "dongles" (same as the one my wife has) on at certain times when she then retreats to her safe room. Her husband goes to the library with his dongle to watch TV. She sleeps in a separate safe room that she has tried to insulate.

One person would not switch off and she is taking strain. She described how she shielded the room. I told her where she made a mistake and she is going to fix that and let me know how it worked. She got material from the UK that is emf reflective and she has made clothing from it that helps quite a bit. I will recommend she buy a cheap meter. I am investigating making carbon paint for our house.

She suffers from pain all over when exposed.

This is why I get so hacked off. PS is now giving bogus advice to other people, who don't know better themselves.

In a nutshell, AFAIK, he won a court case to remove a cellphone antenna not because it was a medical issue but because it was unsightly. Now he's some sort of minor celebrity in his area, and a supposed "expert" on EM radiation - he's got a meter, after all!!

I would not be surprised if he has used this 15 minutes of fame to give talks on EM somewhere, and now he is being approached by others wanting justification for their pains.

This is where things get dangerous, because others are going to be blaming EM radiation for medical issues which have other sources, much like PS currently does. Not to mention that they are going to be wasting money applying his suggestions.

 

[RedStapler]

Besides, you have convinced me I will achieve nothing at this point

Well, you will either tell us that:
- the test was successful

or

- you had to interrupt the test because it hurt too much.

These are the only two possibilites. Please ask me how and why I know that.

 

[Mojo]

I have a lot of commitments, so this is just a quick update. I will expand later.

I will do the test. I want to buy or hire more instrumentation before I go ahead.

Why do you need more instrumentation? It’s a really simple test: someone turns the modem on or off according to a coin toss, and you decide which it is. No “instrumentation” required.

 

[Cosmic Yak]

In a nutshell, AFAIK, he won a court case to remove a cellphone antenna not because it was a medical issue but because it was unsightly.

I've been flicking through the court documents PS linked to, in the hope of finding the actual judgement of the court.
No luck so far.
PartSkeptic- would you mind indicating where in those documents we can find this? I'd also be interested in the source of the statements you have attributed to the telcos about 'destroying their industry', the nature of the 'technicality' you claim cost you the appeal, and your evidence for your claim your opponents committed perjury in order to win.
Thanks.

 

[bruto]

Why do you need more instrumentation? It’s a really simple test: someone turns the modem on or off according to a coin toss, and you decide which it is. No “instrumentation” required.

I noticed that too. I would have thought if the test was done properly it would have to exclude instrumentation.

 

[Pixel42]

Why do you need more instrumentation? It’s a really simple test: someone turns the modem on or off according to a coin toss, and you decide which it is. No “instrumentation” required.

I noticed that too. I would have thought if the test was done properly it would have to exclude instrumentation.

He's been asked more than once where using instrumentation fits into the test protocol, but has just ignored the question.

I tried asking if he wanted to extend the scope of the test to find out whether the measured level affected his ability to guess correctly if the wifi was on or off, but he ignored that question too. That's a feasible extention, but would of course require a more complex test protocol than the one originally discussed.

 

[varwoche]

He's introducing complexities that render the odds of the test actually occurring at 0%.

 

[PartSkeptic]

I have been using a new technique to try to get some health help from either God or the Ultimate Intelligence. It seems to be working. I seem to be getting energy again but it may be too early to tell.

And coincidentally, I have been contacted by some people who are EMF sufferers and fighters. And getting more contacts/info both locally and internationally. Interesting. Cancers and bodily harm. And some info about industry tactics. But you don't want me to post here so don't stress.

Many things are happening in my life. All of a sudden. I had a quiet period to recover.

I will have to catch up on reading posts maybe on the weekend. However, I see no reason to respond to personal attacks on me. Just non-productive for me to go further. The exchanges have prepared me for attacks in forums that do matter and will have consequences.

I have been looking at instrumentation and also exploring how best I can conduct the tests.

 

[EvilBiker]

I have been using a new technique to try to get some health help from either God or the Ultimate Intelligence. It seems to be working. I seem to be getting energy again but it may be too early to tell.

Good for you.

And coincidentally, I have been contacted by some people who are EMF sufferers and fighters. And getting more contacts/info both locally and internationally. Interesting. Cancers and bodily harm. And some info about industry tactics. But you don't want me to post here so don't stress.

Not surprised, there's a lot of misinformation out there. I've always bemoaned the fact that I have a conscience - without one I could have been really rich! But such is life, I am bound by my ethics. Frankly, I blame my parents.

Many things are happening in my life. All of a sudden. I had a quiet period to recover.

I'm amazed! A couple of days ago you were in constant agony, and now you're better? So denial and avoidance is a cure-all? How does it taste?

I will have to catch up on reading posts maybe on the weekend. However, I see no reason to respond to personal attacks on me. Just non-productive for me to go further. The exchanges have prepared me for attacks in forums that do matter and will have consequences.

Well, I'm not going to be holding my breath waiting for any scintillating revelations from you on this forum. You don't respond to anything that penetrates your flimsy arguments.

It's ok, I can recognise a flounce when I see it.

 

[PartSkeptic]

As a result of my communications with activists I followed up on some leads. I found this:

Note: I am certainly not one person making outrageous claims. There are concerned scientists. But feel free to cherry pick what suits your beliefs.

https://imhu.org/integrative/5g-impacts-covid-19/

Cities Most Vigorously Hit by Covid-19 Had 5G: Coincidence? Or, Important Correlation?

The Chinese first rolled out 5G in one Chinese city in the latter part of Fall, 2019. That city was Wuhan, China where there are 10,000 5G antennas radiating 60 gig (GHz) frequencies. In cooperation with Chinese giant Telecom company Huawei, Spain launched 5G in June, 2019, making it one of the first European countries with the ultrafast mobile network in Europe. Other places around the globe launching 5G included Northern Italy, Iran, and South Korea. 5G was also mobilized in New York City at the end of September, 2019 via Verizon and TMobile, reaching areas of uptown, midtown, and downtown Manhattan, along with select parts of Brooklyn, the Bronx, and Queens. Iran started trialing the technology back in September, 2017. The Diamond Princess cruise lines where some travelers were infected also employ highly advanced wireless systems for enhanced network connectivity. Similarly some navy ships have advanced wireless system capacity now—and also victims of Covid-19.

Now that these are all recognized hotspots for Covid-19 we might explore how 5G technology may actually harm the immune system, not causing the virus but making people more vulnerable to viruses and other physical and emotional disturbances. The correlation is there. The fact that Covid-19 also creates stress on the lungs that can be deadly has also been correlated with 5G. Specific biological impacts include: oxygen metabolism. 60 GHZ is absorbable by oxygen; thus humans cannot easily absorb the oxygen they need in an environment where 60 GHZ is present. 60GHZ changes oxygen molecules so they cannot be taken up as hemoglobin in the blood depriving all systems of the body of an essential nutrient for survival. According to Dr. Rashid A Buttar of AdvancedMedicine.com, 5G allows viruses, like Covid-19 access to cells through the cell membrane. It thus potentiates Covid-19 and other viruses. Thus, a relatively benign virus can become lethal when in the environment of 5G.

In sum, 5G can be correlated to “acute respiratory dysfunction” presenting first with a dry cough. Those severely afflicted need respirators to get them vital oxygen. Without more oxygen, they usually die.

 

[PartSkeptic]

Good for you.



Not surprised, there's a lot of misinformation out there. I've always bemoaned the fact that I have a conscience - without one I could have been really rich! But such is life, I am bound by my ethics. Frankly, I blame my parents.



I'm amazed! A couple of days ago you were in constant agony, and now you're better? So denial and avoidance is a cure-all? How does it taste?



Well, I'm not going to be holding my breath waiting for any scintillating revelations from you on this forum. You don't respond to anything that penetrates your flimsy arguments.

It's ok, I can recognise a flounce when I see it.

Not constant agony before. And not total health health presently.

I am improved. Not as bad. Going from about an 8 on the pain scale to about 5 for some intervals is an improvement. It tastes great. Better than Coca Cola. Being able to get more work done is fantastic. Hope it lasts.

Uh oh. I nearly forgot the mantra of "correlation is not causation". Try for help and then getting it, does not mean that I got the help from the source I think I got it from. What do you think caused my improvement?

ETA: I also blame my parents for my ethics. However, because of them I am rich. Rich in spirit and able to enjoy life to the fullest. Not worrying about which lie or crime will catch up with me, just for starters.

 

[EvilBiker]

Uh oh. I nearly forgot the mantra of "correlation is not causation".

Yup, you forgot it - plain to see in your previous conjecture-filled post.

What do you think caused my improvement?

Denial, in the main. It's a powerful placebo, but ignoring the tiger facing you off does not guarantee you will not end up contemplating the digestive system of said tiger.

 

[Pixel42]

Cities Most Vigorously Hit by Covid-19 Had 5G: Coincidence? Or, Important Correlation?

Neither. Certain large metropolitan areas are likely to have both for reasons which are blindingly obvious.

The Chinese first rolled out 5G in one Chinese city in the latter part of Fall, 2019. That city was Wuhan, China

Wuhan was one of 16 cities to debut 5G at roughly the same time. None of the others have reported abnormally high instances of the virus.

And so on.

 

[EvilBiker]

Oh, and the first sign that your previous post is BS - they don't even get the frequency bands right:

Low-band 5G uses a similar frequency range as current 4G cellphones, 600-700 MHz, giving download speeds a little higher than 4G: 30-250 megabits per second (Mbit/s). Low-band cell towers will have a similar range and coverage area to current 4G towers.

Mid-band 5G uses microwaves of 2.5-3.7 GHz, currently allowing speeds of 100-900 Mbit/s, with each cell tower providing service up to several miles in radius. This level of service is the most widely deployed, and should be available in most metropolitan areas in 2020. Some countries are not implementing low-band, making this the minimum service level.

High-band 5G currently uses frequencies of 25-39 GHz, near the bottom of the millimeter wave band, although higher frequencies may be used in the future

 

[Mojo]

Note: I won. The judge agreed. The next judge dismissed on a technicality and ignored perjury.

Was “the next judge” hearing an appeal from the decision of the first one?