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Trebuchet said:
Yes, unfortunately that's correct. If there's a surge of cases in OK, the level of lying about it will be stupendous.
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It is universal.
Over here we have a Facebook fury of **** wads shouting ALL LIVES MATTER because of the threat to their racist bigotry of spreading COVID when 10s of thousands here turned out for BLM protests.
And, without actually looking at the sources, blame the current spike of COVID cases directly at the protestors.

In short? 3 people who attended the BLM protests across Australia tested positive to COVID.
The State health officer confirmed that none of them contracted COVID or were infectious at these protests.

In the meantime one family managed to infect 11 people, across three suburbs and shut down two schools.

Not one anti-family-gathering tirades of FB on Twitter about that. . .despite the fact that the FB **** wads making the most noise about BLM protesters were directly affected by the family outbreak in there own suburb.
(these are mostly a high school reunion FB group - a cluster of ********* that have intensified my resolve to not bother reacquainting myself with in person)
 
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Trebuchet said:
And tomorrow, 19,000 of them will be crowded together without masks, yelling and cheering.
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I applaud them for selflessly taking part in this risky experiment, knowing that some will get sick or even die. This is the mark of a true patriot - someone willing to die so we can get more data on how well the virus spreads in crowds!
 
Roger Ramjets said:
I applaud them for selflessly taking part in this risky experiment, knowing that some will get sick or even die. This is the mark of a true patriot - someone willing to die so we can get more data on how well the virus spreads in crowds!
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And Trump is willing to let them take that chance.
 
You also have a general hatred of science among much of the right.
I think this goes back to science not agreeing with the book of Fairy Tales most of them beleive in.
 
Trump’s supporters said that they were unconcerned about the perils of coronavirus or of protesters.
“I’m not going to let those people run me off,” Terri Whisenhunt, 49, of Wagoner, Okla., vowed. “And covid-19 is not going to keep me locked in my house. I think it’s all a bunch of B.S.”
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(NY Times)

Nah, she's not stupid. Not at all. Just another 'stable genius'.
 
eeyore1954 said:
Not really for this thread I suppose but is there evidence that an antibody treatment works?
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Good evidence. But it's not something being manufactured yet. That limits the supply tremendously.


I wonder if Trump has talked any researchers into slipping him a vaccination before it's ready? I can see him doing that, offering favorable government contracts or something if they can slip him a dose in secret.
 
Stacyhs said:
And Trump is willing to let them take that chance.
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But will not take responsibility for it.

Skeptic Ginger said:
Good evidence. But it's not something being manufactured yet. That limits the supply tremendously.


I wonder if Trump has talked any researchers into slipping him a vaccination before it's ready? I can see him doing that, offering favorable government contracts or something if they can slip him a dose in secret.
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If there's a viable vaccine I have no problem with The President being one of the first recipients.

I can also see him insisting on getting a treatment before it's ready. In that case, I do have a problem with it as the risks have not been weighed. But if he wants to be that stupid, maybe I think he should go ahead.
 
alfaniner said:
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If there's a viable vaccine I have no problem with The President being one of the first recipients.

I can also see him insisting on getting a treatment before it's ready. In that case, I do have a problem with it as the risks have not been weighed. But if he wants to be that stupid, maybe I think he should go ahead.
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Does that include knowing he's secretly had a vaccine while drawing thousands of susceptible fans into an indoor stadium?
 
Worldometer cites 33,529 new reported cases for Friday in the USA, the most since May 1st (which was a bit of an outlier).


Texas (4,497 - a new record)) and Florida (3,822 - a new record) are doing their best to help these figures. And with Tulsa about to host 20,000 (reportedly up to 100,000 showing up) people in a petri dish arena yelling and screaming these numbers can only go in one direction.


Sorry guys, you really don't deserve this.


As an aside, Brazil reported 55,209 cases (a new record) and worldwide there was a total of 181,005 (a new record). Nearly half were from the USA and Brazil.


This thing aint going anywhere.



Norm
 
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fromdownunder said:
Worldometer cites 33,529 new reported cases for Friday in the USA, the most since May 1st (which was a bit of an outlier).


Texas (4,497 - a new record)) and Florida (3,822 - a new record) are doing their best to help these figures. And with Tulsa about to host 20,000 (reportedly up to 100,000 showing up) people in a petri dish arena yelling and screaming these numbers can only go in one direction.


Sorry guys, you really don't deserve this.


As an aside, Brazil reported 55,209 cases (a new record) and worldwide there was a total of 181,005 (a new record). Nearly half were from the USA and Brazil.


This thing aint going anywhere.



Norm
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I might not agree with that. If you knowing voted GOP idiots into public office, you are just reaping what you sow.
 
dudalb said:
You also have a general hatred of science among much of the right.
I think this goes back to science not agreeing with the book of Fairy Tales most of them beleive in.
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I wouldn't say the whole religious right hates science. The evangelical wing, sure, but Catholics like to think they're more or less in tune with modern science. Theoretically they are also pro-immigrant though that's counteracted by anti-abortion sentiment.

There is also a Christian left. I live right in the middle of it. Elderly people, almost perfectly buying into campus lockdown measures, "conservative" in maybe an old-fashioned sense but not haters ... going out of their way not to be in some cases, and overall not hostile to science at all.
 
dudalb said:
I might not agree with that. If you knowing voted GOP idiots into public office, you are just reaping what you sow.
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Yeah ... but. Those 20K-plus in Tulsa aren't just risking their own health. If they were I'd just say **** 'em.

ETA: Would be fun to try to visualize droplets spreading throughout the venue and the general infectiousness of the "invisible enemy." Chanting, shouting and whatever else they get up to. How many will be wearing masks?
 
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Trebuchet said:
And tomorrow, 19,000 of them will be crowded together without masks, yelling and cheering.
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