Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 22

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ponderingturtle said:
Well WIFI and Bluetooth also but no they wouldn't be on the radio bands of police and fire, those are just above and below the HAM radio bands, and HAM radios can be modified(such as clipping a wire) to broadcast on such frequencies. Rather illegal if one is not a member of such agencies.

Scanners that simply receive are of course totally legal, though I think for a phone it would be using a web page.
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Right, plumb forgot WIFI.

Scanners are legal, but I presume trying to block police signals wouldn't be and if a scanner was used for that purpose, there would likely be a law broken by the guy using the scanner as well as the person blocking.

But it doesn't matter much, since the whole theory sounds like nonsense. I reckon you might could have a dongle of some sort that could identify frequencies (which are public knowledge, according to Delphic Oracle), but none of this makes much sense.
 
phiwum said:
Right, plumb forgot WIFI.

Scanners are legal, but I presume trying to block police signals wouldn't be and if a scanner was used for that purpose, there would likely be a law broken by the guy using the scanner as well as the person blocking.
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That is a strange and crazy thought at scanners can not broadcast. They also have much bigger antenna's and look nothing like phones.
 
ponderingturtle said:
That is a strange and crazy thought at scanners can not broadcast. They also have much bigger antenna's and look nothing like phones.
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I have to wonder. Law&Order Trump fans seem like just the demographic that would be most likely to own a police scanner, for all that great vicarious police action porn.

Might Trump's obvious ignorance about what a scanner can do be the thin edge of the wedge, that finally gets them to realize he's full of ******

Nah, probably not. They'll just go back to declaring anyone who calls a semi-auto AR-15 an "assault rifle" to be the biggest moron in history.
 
ponderingturtle said:
That is a strange and crazy thought at scanners can not broadcast. They also have much bigger antenna's and look nothing like phones.
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The theory, as I understand it, is that the scanner was used to determine the frequency the cops were using and another person would then block that frequency. I wasn't suggesting the scanner would also serve as blocking a transmission.

Mind, I'm not at all buying the theory. I'm just trying to make some sort of cockamamie sense of it. I'm sure I put in more thought than Trump and perhaps the original "reporter" did.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweeted
My decision to appoint @usairforce General Charles Brown as the USA’s first-ever African American military service chief has now been approved by the Senate. A historic day for America! Excited to work even more closely with Gen. Brown, who is a Patriot and Great Leader!
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Apparently Colin Powell, former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the USA's highest uniformed military position, is no longer black.
 
phiwum said:
I was certainly wondering why "pointing" to a radio would matter at all, but I was willing to take the hypothesis as true and see what consequences would follow.

I assume that a typical police "scanner" app is taking data over the usual cell tower. Do phones have hardware to pick up whatever frequencies that police use? Far as I know, I can't listen to (say) FM band on my phone. I presume that phones have hardware to communicate with a cell tower and to receive GPS but nothing else.

I could totally be mistaken, of course.
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Cell phones have a lot of receivers, but ... dedicated. They have what needed for the cell phone communication, Bluetooth, GPS, WiFi, near-field, and FM band. (Yes, you can listen to FM band on your phone, unless it is truly ancient.) But it can't tune in on all kinds of other communication bands.


Hans
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Retweeted

GOP
@GOP
“We can't give up the finest law enforcement anywhere in the world. There's nothing like it.” -@realDonaldTrump


Senate Republicans
@SenateGOP
The U.S. economy added 2.5 million jobs in May.
That's the BIGGEST JOBS INCREASE EVER! Partying face Flag of United States
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"Partying face Flag of United States"?
 
timhau said:
"Partying face Flag of United States"?
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I'm pretty sure that's how the text system parses emoticons.

Which just emphasizes how odd it is that so many official statements of the president of the United States feature emoticons.
 
Horatius said:
I'm pretty sure that's how the text system parses emoticons.

Which just emphasizes how odd it is that so many official statements of the president of the United States feature emoticons.
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It's like in "Idiocracy", in which pictures were used on everything to compensate for illiteracy.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweeted
My decision to appoint @usairforce General Charles Brown as the USA’s first-ever African American military service chief has now been approved by the Senate. A historic day for America! Excited to work even more closely with Gen. Brown, who is a Patriot and Great Leader!
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Until he fails to lick the Orange Excrescence's ass crack deeply enough; then Gen. Brown will have been "overrated."
 
phiwum said:
Right, plumb forgot WIFI.

Scanners are legal, but I presume trying to block police signals wouldn't be and if a scanner was used for that purpose, there would likely be a law broken by the guy using the scanner as well as the person blocking.
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A scanner is a receiver. It can't do any blocking. To block you need a transmitter, but ... modern systems are very difficult to block, and obviously police could not know for what purpose it was used, if it existed, and no matter what, it would not be an excuse to push the man over.

Hans
 
phiwum said:
The theory, as I understand it, is that the scanner was used to determine the frequency the cops were using and another person would then block that frequency. I wasn't suggesting the scanner would also serve as blocking a transmission.

Mind, I'm not at all buying the theory. I'm just trying to make some sort of cockamamie sense of it. I'm sure I put in more thought than Trump and perhaps the original "reporter" did.
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It doesn't MATTER! Police is not supposed to push people over! If they has a reason to do so, they could arrest him. They could not just go and push him over.

Stay FOCUSED.

Hans
 
MRC_Hans said:
Stay FOCUSED.
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They won't. They can't.

Everyone is Jabba now. Subdivide the topic over and over, even if the subdivide wouldn't change what's being discussed, until what is being discussed is so far away there's no hope of actually discussing it.
 
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MRC_Hans said:
It doesn't MATTER! Police is not supposed to push people over! If they has a reason to do so, they could arrest him. They could not just go and push him over.

Stay FOCUSED.

Hans
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But you forget the fun of basic violence that the police so desperately need. Why are you trying to strip life's basic joys from them?
 
MRC_Hans said:
Cell phones have a lot of receivers, but ... dedicated. They have what needed for the cell phone communication, Bluetooth, GPS, WiFi, near-field, and FM band. (Yes, you can listen to FM band on your phone, unless it is truly ancient.) But it can't tune in on all kinds of other communication bands.


Hans
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I had no idea they have FM.
 
MRC_Hans said:
It doesn't MATTER! Police is not supposed to push people over! If they has a reason to do so, they could arrest him. They could not just go and push him over.

Stay FOCUSED.

Hans
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Well, my musings have wandered a bit, but I started this discussion with the following post.

phiwum said:
Let us suppose for a moment that Gugino was using police tracking software on his phone. I've no idea how this works, but the story suggests that you point the phone at a radio source and learn the frequency it's using so that your allies can block that frequency. I have no idea if this is feasible or not, but suppose it is and suppose that this is what Gugino was doing when he was pushed.

How does that affect anything? For his activity to matter, the cops would have to know this is what he was doing. Furthermore, pushing him to the sidewalk would have to be an appropriate response. The cops saw a man holding a cellphone. It would take a remarkable attention to detail in a chaotic situation to correctly apprehend that he was working in cahoots with someone with a blocker. Pushing him down wouldn't be effective unless you knew that doing so would take him out of commission (as it did in fact). Barring an injury, you'd have to confiscate the phone or otherwise prevent him from using it.

It is a nonsense theory that justifies nothing that happened to the man, far as I can tell.
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Horatius said:
I'm pretty sure that's how the text system parses emoticons.

Which just emphasizes how odd it is that so many official statements of the president of the United States feature emoticons.
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I saw that text; it was originally from the Senate Republicans, so I supposed that Trump forwarded it via Twitter. It had literally streamers and a party hat. It looked like an e-card that an older aunt would send you from her @aol address.
 
Something else to think about: Suppose a couple weeks before the election, Trump announces that a covid vaccination hsd been developed. Trump Saves America!
Oct. 23, 2020, 9 a.m., with 10 days before the election, Fox New releases a poll showing President Trump trailing Joe Biden by eight percentage points.

Oct. 23, 2020, 3 p.m., at a hastily convened news conference, President Trump announces that the Food and Drug Administration has just issued an Emergency Use Authorization for a coronavirus vaccine. Mr. Trump declares victory over Covid-19, demands that all businesses reopen immediately and predicts a rapid economic recovery.

Given how this president has behaved, this incredibly dangerous scenario is not far-fetched. In a desperate search for a political boost, he could release a coronavirus vaccine before it had been thoroughly tested and shown to be safe and effective.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/08/opinion/trump-coronavirus-vaccine.html
 
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