Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 22

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carlitos said:
I too have this "police tracking software" on my phone - there are a bunch of free police scanner websites and apps. My 80-year-old dad also listens to the police scanner on a radio set at his home. Maybe I should go push him over.
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Do it and teach that Trump hating librul a lesson he won't forget [emoji12]
 
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Let us suppose for a moment that Gugino was using police tracking software on his phone. I've no idea how this works, but the story suggests that you point the phone at a radio source and learn the frequency it's using so that your allies can block that frequency. I have no idea if this is feasible or not, but suppose it is and suppose that this is what Gugino was doing when he was pushed.

How does that affect anything? For his activity to matter, the cops would have to know this is what he was doing. Furthermore, pushing him to the sidewalk would have to be an appropriate response. The cops saw a man holding a cellphone. It would take a remarkable attention to detail in a chaotic situation to correctly apprehend that he was working in cahoots with someone with a blocker. Pushing him down wouldn't be effective unless you knew that doing so would take him out of commission (as it did in fact). Barring an injury, you'd have to confiscate the phone or otherwise prevent him from using it.

It is a nonsense theory that justifies nothing that happened to the man, far as I can tell.
 
zorro99 said:
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Buffalo protester shoved by Police could be an ANTIFA provocateur. 75 year old Martin Gugino was pushed away after appearing to scan police communications in order to black out the equipment.
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I watched, he fell harder than was pushed. Was aiming scanner. Could be a set up?

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1270333484528214018
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I started a separate thread asking Trump supporters to defend the tweet. Probably should have added "or respond to", guess I'll go edit it. Anyhoo, I'd like to give them a chance to do so before everyone else jumps in there.
 
carlitos said:
I too have this "police tracking software" on my phone - there are a bunch of free police scanner websites and apps. My 80-year-old dad also listens to the police scanner on a radio set at his home. Maybe I should go push him over.
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Nah, just go over and give him a tiny shove. He'll throw himself to the ground, give himself a concussion and laugh in his hospital bed for getting you in trouble....
 
JoeMorgue said:
That's great. You ever thought of putting two similar sentences together?

How is bringing in the National Guard "letting the police do their job" unless you're so stupid as to see police action and military action as the same thing and I just answered my own question and made myself sad.
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Not to mention, bringing them in on "Day One" means before any actual violence took place.


Well, protester violence, at least.
 
I think he means that the military should have started beating down protesters on day one.
 
phiwum said:
Let us suppose for a moment that Gugino was using police tracking software on his phone. I've no idea how this works, but the story suggests that you point the phone at a radio source and learn the frequency it's using so that your allies can block that frequency. I have no idea if this is feasible or not, but suppose it is and suppose that this is what Gugino was doing when he was pushed.

How does that affect anything? For his activity to matter, the cops would have to know this is what he was doing. Furthermore, pushing him to the sidewalk would have to be an appropriate response. The cops saw a man holding a cellphone. It would take a remarkable attention to detail in a chaotic situation to correctly apprehend that he was working in cahoots with someone with a blocker. Pushing him down wouldn't be effective unless you knew that doing so would take him out of commission (as it did in fact). Barring an injury, you'd have to confiscate the phone or otherwise prevent him from using it.

It is a nonsense theory that justifies nothing that happened to the man, far as I can tell.
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But it does blow into several whistles that only dogs can hear.
 
Horatius said:
When they lie so often about so much that is so trivial, there's really no longer any need to be charitable in our interpretations of their lies. She said "less than 2%" because she was deliberately lying, and wanted their idiot followers to believe that lie.

I'll start believing the "mistake" theory again when and if they ever begin consistently admitting to making any mistakes, if that ever happens.
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And it would be such a stupid, pointless lie anyway. 8%? I saw a comment on Twitter (I think) that summed it up for me- "She does know that's out of 100, right?" It's like "Mom, mom! I got an 8 on my math test! Isn't that great?!?!"

"An 8? Out of 100? That's a miserable fail, son!"

"Yeah, but I'd like to point out that Mitt only got a 2, so I did four times better!"
 
Captain_Swoop said:
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Buffalo protester shoved by Police could be an ANTIFA provocateur. 75 year old Martin Gugino was pushed away after appearing to scan police communications in order to black out the equipment. @OANN I watched, he fell harder than was pushed. Was aiming scanner. Could be a set up?
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This one's actually getting ratioed - There are more comments than likes. Didn't think I'd see that from a Trump tweet.
 
bonzombiekitty said:
"But Mitt's test was on calculus. Yours was on counting"
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I saw a meme that commented on how the person loves how Mitt appears every three months or so, and shows up the entire Republican Party by doing the absolute minimum to be a normal human person.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
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Mattis was our Country’s most overrated General. He talked a lot, but never “brought home the bacon.” He was terrible! Someday I will tell the real story on him and others - both good and bad!
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Greg Jaffe
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Seb Gorka: “I’m not a Marine, but I know the Marines....Jim Mattis is no Marine.”
@MarineCorpsU hired Gorka to teach Marine officers. Hope this article produces some soul searching.
https://amgreatness.com/2020/06/06/...the-marines-and-america/#.Xt8Aa0AGzwM.twitter
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I liked Mattis's response to being called "overrated." He said, Trump called Meryl Streep an overrated actor. I guess I am the Meryl Streep of Generals.

That's awesome.
 
JoeMorgue said:
I see Trump is starting to seed the ground with "Oh I have just so much dirt on everyone... be a shame if I didn't get re-elected and didn't have anything better to do but share it..." crap.

I sincerly doubt Trump has any dirt on anyone that didn't just fall of him while h was close to them.

Also... the Marines rank Mattis somewhere slightly above "God" so... that's not going to go over well with them.
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He fails to realize that when he "has has any dirt on anyone", people will consider the source.

Personally, I would be pleased to know he doesn't like me. Proud, even.
 
phiwum said:
Let us suppose for a moment that Gugino was using police tracking software on his phone. I've no idea how this works, but the story suggests that you point the phone at a radio source and learn the frequency it's using so that your allies can block that frequency. I have no idea if this is feasible or not, but suppose it is and suppose that this is what Gugino was doing when he was pushed.

How does that affect anything? For his activity to matter, the cops would have to know this is what he was doing. Furthermore, pushing him to the sidewalk would have to be an appropriate response. The cops saw a man holding a cellphone. It would take a remarkable attention to detail in a chaotic situation to correctly apprehend that he was working in cahoots with someone with a blocker. Pushing him down wouldn't be effective unless you knew that doing so would take him out of commission (as it did in fact). Barring an injury, you'd have to confiscate the phone or otherwise prevent him from using it.

It is a nonsense theory that justifies nothing that happened to the man, far as I can tell.
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You don't need to be physically close to the source to identify a frequency.

Nothing would be detected unless that radio is broadcasting, anyways.

And my favorite: police/fire/EMS frequencies are public information. No need for "sniffing" it out to begin with.
 
Delphic Oracle said:
You don't need to be physically close to the source to identify a frequency.

Nothing would be detected unless that radio is broadcasting, anyways.

And my favorite: police/fire/EMS frequencies are public information. No need for "sniffing" it out to begin with.
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I was certainly wondering why "pointing" to a radio would matter at all, but I was willing to take the hypothesis as true and see what consequences would follow.

I assume that a typical police "scanner" app is taking data over the usual cell tower. Do phones have hardware to pick up whatever frequencies that police use? Far as I know, I can't listen to (say) FM band on my phone. I presume that phones have hardware to communicate with a cell tower and to receive GPS but nothing else.

I could totally be mistaken, of course.
 
Trump Tweeted
BIG DEMAND! Starting up again soon, maybe next week!
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Byron York
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Given recent gatherings, seems reasonable time for President Trump to resume holding rallies. Could be held outside. Give out masks at entrance, encourage use. But mass gatherings are now OK. Biden could re-start, too, of course.
 
trump's America: The new normal. Voters in Georgia wait on voting lines for hours and complain, "We can't vote!"

"That looks like some kinda kooky protest. Hey! SEND IN THE COPS!"

People are tweeting and messaging social media sites with things like, "Is this a dry run for November?" "Welcome to voter suppression USA-style."

How much longer can this go on? trump really seems to be playing with fire. Do I blame trump? Yes I do. He sets the agenda.
 

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My decision to appoint @usairforce General Charles Brown as the USA’s first-ever African American military service chief has now been approved by the Senate. A historic day for America! Excited to work even more closely with Gen. Brown, who is a Patriot and Great Leader!
 
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