Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 22

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Ladewig said:
Fired? They should be prosecuted!


They slashed the tires of all the cars in a K-Mart parking lot. Every tire of every car.

“Strategic,” my aunt Fanny.
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I normally have a problem with the state's tyrannical thugs destroying private property, yet... I find myself oddly willing to make an exception in this case. Typically I would blame the individuals who slashed the tires, but, for some reason, I do mind blaming the protestors themselves. While I would declare the police department's conduct outrageous under normal circumstances, details of this incident stir feelings of unrestrained euphoria. Thank you, Mr. President.
 
SezMe said:
If it's at all close, then the courts - specifically, the Supremes - will pick the next President. I don't trust them any further than I can throw the building they work in.

I envision a scarier scenario. It looks like there will be a lot of mail-in voting. These can take a long time to count plus there will be demands for recounts. Legal challenges will, I suppose, go the each state's top court. This could lead to the criteria for accepting a vote being widely disparate between red and blue states. And, of course, even those decisions will get appealed at the federal level even is such an appeal is not legal.

In the meantime, the calendar keeps on turning to a new page every day. I can imagine not having a decision by January, thus giving Trump some small basis for rejecting the tentative outcome.

What a freakin' mess. Now imagine that somehow the Supremes put a halt to the whole process (using 2008 as a precedent even though they declared that decision not precedent setting) and declare Trump the winner even though Biden wins the popular vote by 5+ million. That's when the excrement will hit the impeller big time. We'll be looking back to June, 2020 as the good old days.
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I agree with your points.
I do want to point out the deadline for court decisions is not in January, but in December. The EC meets on December 19 this year.
 
Ladewig said:
Fired? They should be prosecuted!




They slashed the tires of all the cars in a K-Mart parking lot. Every tire of every car.

“Strategic,” my aunt Fanny.
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Yeah... I was being very nice about it. On the prosecution side of things, I'm still not sure how much I would call for the people who actually did it to be prosecuted as well, for that matter. That's the kind of thing that should be an obviously illegal order, after all, and I hesitate to allow the "I was just following orders" defense as valid in such a case. If there was valid cause for individuals, that's one thing and can be acceptable. A whole parking lot of parked cars? There's pretty much no way that that's defensible.
 
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Aridas said:
To poke at a couple things...

Video of state troopers slashing and puncturing protesters and reporters’ cars tires goes viral

...Whoever ordered that should be immediately fired and all damages covered.
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That's extraordinary. I've seen this kind of thing on a small scale at UK demonstrations with the police taking out their frustrations on a few of the demonstrators' vehicles but nothing with this level of organisation and thoroughness.

Would the protesters be able to bring some kind of class action against the state troopers to recoup their losses from this act of vandalism ?
 
The Don said:
That's extraordinary. I've seen this kind of thing on a small scale at UK demonstrations with the police taking out their frustrations on a few of the demonstrators' vehicles but nothing with this level of organisation and thoroughness.

Would the protesters be able to bring some kind of class action against the state troopers to recoup their losses from this act of vandalism ?
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Honestly, IANAL. I have no idea of what specific courses of action are best suited to address this, though I would likely be directly contacting a lawyer if this happened to me.
 
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Aridas said:
To poke at a couple things...

Video of state troopers slashing and puncturing protesters and reporters’ cars tires goes viral

...Whoever ordered that should be immediately fired and all damages covered.
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Just as important as the tire slashing is they admitted it.
Thank you, Trump Administration for giving us the yeah-I-did-it-so-what-are-you-going-to-about-it attitude. “Oh, you have video of us doing it? Great, send me a copy so we can laugh at it in the sheriff’s office. You guys should have seen the looks on your faces while we were doing it. Priceless.”

How the [epithet] did the Overton Window get to the point that police admit to destroying all the tires on a 100 cars. Even if you thought the cars were about to be used in a crime, you don’t have to slash all four. Slashing the front two will ensure that the car will not move until a tow truck comes.


ETA
December is going to be a bitch.

Maybe I’ll move to New Zealand. I’d have to cultivate a passable Canadian accent, eh?
 
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Captain_Swoop said:
I am suspicious of Romney's conversion to BLM.

He has had academic papers written on his racism.

I think he is doing it to wind Trump up.
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Well his father George Romney wrote the Fair Housing Act as Secretary Of HUD (until it was torpedoed by Nixon) and was very progressive on race issues for his time so I suspect Mitt grew up in a house preaching tolerance.
 
grunion said:
Well his father George Romney wrote the Fair Housing Act as Secretary Of HUD (until it was torpedoed by Nixon) and was very progressive on race issues for his time so I suspect Mitt grew up in a house preaching tolerance.
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And he is a member of an explicitly White Supremacist religion.
 
grunion said:
Well his father George Romney wrote the Fair Housing Act as Secretary Of HUD (until it was torpedoed by Nixon) and was very progressive on race issues for his time so I suspect Mitt grew up in a house preaching tolerance.
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Mitt Romney was a pretty decent governor when he was elected in Massachusetts. He instituted a universal healthcare plan that the federal ACA plan was based on. Yesterday, during a press briefing a reporter asked Kayleigh McEnany if president trump agreed with Mitt Romney, that "black lives matter." McEnany ducked the question, replying in part:
"Mitt Romney can say three words outside on Pennsylvania Avenue, but I would note this: that President Trump won 8% of the black vote. Mitt Romney won 2% of the black vote," McEnany said. CNN news link
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As usual, McEnany either had her facts wrong or she deliberately lied. Exit polling showed Romney actually won 6% of black votes and he was running against Barack Obama. But if Kayleigh McEnany doesn't like him he can't be all bad. ;)
 
newyorkguy said:
Mitt Romney was a pretty decent governor when he was elected in Massachusetts. He instituted a universal healthcare plan that the federal ACA plan was based on. Yesterday, during a press briefing a reporter asked Kayleigh McEnany if president trump agreed with Mitt Romney, that "black lives matter." McEnany ducked the question, replying in part:
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"Mitt Romney can say three words outside on Pennsylvania Avenue, but I would note this: that President Trump won 8% of the black vote. Mitt Romney won 2% of the black vote," McEnany said. CNN news link
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As usual, McEnany either had her facts wrong or she deliberately lied. Exit polling showed Romney actually won 6% of black votes and he was running against Barack Obama. But if Kayleigh McEnany doesn't like him he can't be all bad. ;)
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Wow. 8%. Four times what Romney got, by her count. Someone should tell McNinny, though, that four times nothing much still ain't nothin' much to brag about.
 
BillC said:
Added to that, it's not even true. Romney got 6%, not 2%, of the African American vote in 2012.
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Maybe "two percent less than" (6% compared to 8%) got mangled into "less than two percent" in their tiny reptile brains ?
 
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The Don said:
Maybe "two percent less than" (6% compared to 8%) got mangled into "less than two percent" in their tiny reptile brains ?
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As I understand it 2% less than 8% is 7.92%. But math is certainly not my (or Kelly's) strong suit.
 
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The Don said:
Maybe "two percent less than" (6% compared to 8%) got mangled into "less than two percent" in their tiny reptile brains ?
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When they lie so often about so much that is so trivial, there's really no longer any need to be charitable in our interpretations of their lies. She said "less than 2%" because she was deliberately lying, and wanted their idiot followers to believe that lie.

I'll start believing the "mistake" theory again when and if they ever begin consistently admitting to making any mistakes, if that ever happens.
 
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Buffalo protester shoved by Police could be an ANTIFA provocateur. 75 year old Martin Gugino was pushed away after appearing to scan police communications in order to black out the equipment. @OANN I watched, he fell harder than was pushed. Was aiming scanner. Could be a set up?
 
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