PartSkeptic’s Thread for Predictions and Other Matters of Interest

[abaddon]

I have a great record at finding faults and problems - even where others are baffled. In electronics and in health. With regard to health, I have a number of issues that were quite puzzling, even for many years. Then I would find myself in a situation where the cause was extreme and forced me to find a solution. Histoplasmosis, dust mites and arthritis in my fingers and knees. Hair loss due to demodectic mites. How to get rid of flu and colds. How to get rid of sinus infections. And so on.

Fringe reset.

Some times I first had to establish the cause. Then I tried the conventional "cures". Many of the ones supposed to be excellent were not only expensive they only worked briefly. This forced me to find my own cures which I did by extrapolation and testing until I found a solid working cure. Other times "cures" were suggested to me by others.

Are you actually claiming that if a witch doctor told you to insert a particular frog in an unlikely orifice you would gullibly attempt it?

When I find a "cure" I try to establish how effective it is and why it works and for how long. With electrosmog, I have spent two years researching it, and also trying to find relief. Some of your suggestions have merit, and I have considered them. But there is a very definite "cure" - get away from EMFs permanently. I cannot - so I have to take mitigating measures like shielding.

Your "shielding" does not and cannot work. We have been over this and you learned nothing.

My experiences have been long and extensive. The foil on my leg was a surprise. I did not realize that EMFs retarded healing and promoted damage. The foil was slightly cool and dissipated heat at first, then it had no temperature effect after 5 minutes. What also surprised me was that it made me discover that our lounge lacked the shielding. That was where the problem started.

Yay. Random anecdotes. Isn't that just grand. OK, I have found that wrapping any part of the body in foil causes melanoma.

Your move.

See how easy it is to make up crap?

I subsequently had problems with my right leg in high radiation at the house. All of that stopped when I wore jeans with aluminium mesh. Now that the leg has healed I do not get the pains from the radiation. I should wear the leg protection but it is a nuisance and I figure I will just limit my time exposure.

Buy a Faraday cage. Climb in. Stay there. Forever. Seems like a good idea for the rest of us.

 

[abaddon]

You make out that I am ONE person with a crazy theory.

Are you, then, not one person? You are claiming that you are a collective of some kind?

 

[Pixel42]

You make out that I am ONE person with a crazy theory.

You're certainly not the only one peddling this particular CT, no. The number of people prepared to subscribe to any CT, regardless of its plausibility, is truly frightening. It really does make a rational person despair for the world.

In 1994 the first proof of harm study was done by a Motorola paid scientist. There are now hundreds of scientists who send letters of concern and warning.

I expected to get some skepticism about my extrapolation from mobile telephone emfs as applied to Covid. I did not expect supposedly intelligent skeptics to blindly accept the statements made by the industry that the only effect is heating - which everyone accepts as negligible.

EHocking is not the first poster to point out that your own willingness to blindly accept statements depends entirely on whether they support your anecdotally determined position, not on the source.

I am here to learn. It seems most others are here to pour scorn and boost their egos by dumping on others.

I've seen no evidence you've learned a thing in all the years you've been posting here. It seems to me you're here to pour scorn and boost your ego by dumping on sceptics who have the temerity to ask you to provide evidence for the conclusions you've jumped to.

Once more it seems that the test is time, The truth will eventually come out.

The first cell network was created in the early 1980s, so that's nearly 40 years and still no uptick in any health problems correlated with their deployment. How much longer do we need to give it, do you think?

 

[EvilBiker]

You make out that I am ONE person with a crazy theory.

No, there are thousands of them out there, and quite a few that are pushing the COVID-5G link. None if them, of course, have any proof. You just happen to be the only one here, though.

In 1994 the first proof of harm study was done by a Motorola paid scientist. There are now hundreds of scientists who send letters of concern and warning.

I'm confused - so now industry is showing proof of harm, whereas a few posts ago you said they were suppressing these sort of things?

I expected to get some skepticism about my extrapolation from mobile telephone emfs as applied to Covid. I did not expect supposedly intelligent skeptics to blindly accept the statements made by the industry that the only effect is heating - which everyone accepts as negligible.

There was no extrapolation - extrapolation implies some sort of previous relationship between RF and <whatever> to be established first. All you are doing is trying to match your personal demons to your personal ailments.

Also, corellation does not equal causation. Especially with no proof.

I am here to learn. It seems most others are here to pour scorn and boost their egos by dumping on others.

No, you're not here to learn, you're here to complain. When I took the time to explain, in detail, how RF works over distance, and why your tinfoil is better used for cooking (although it's better to not use at all as it's bad for the environment), you just ignore it and throw a hissy fit because I called you a layman. However, you have no problem telling experts they are delusional, because they don't agree with your brand of theory.

You're not doing any of the tests suggested, because doing so will remove your martyr status, and then what do you have?

The world does not care, and frankly has larger problems to deal with, which are discussed in other, more scientific threads. OK, maybe not Trump, but you get the idea.

We do care, you know, for a while - at least until advice gets thrown out, and the pigeon appears and soils the proverbial chessboard. I, for one, love my profession, and am totally willing to explain the magic and joy I get out of it, as well as pass on knowledge about it. But that ships sails quickly.

Once more it seems that the test is time, The truth will eventually come out. By then, the planet may have fewer humans.

You're saying fewer humans is a bad thing? Undeserving and pointless deaths aside, I think fewer humans is an excellent concept. But I'll not derail...

 

[RedStapler]

You make out that I am ONE person with a crazy theory.

In 1994 the first proof of harm study was done by a Motorola paid scientist. There are now hundreds of scientists who send letters of concern and warning.

I expected to get some skepticism about my extrapolation from mobile telephone emfs as applied to Covid. I did not expect supposedly intelligent skeptics to blindly accept the statements made by the industry that the only effect is heating - which everyone accepts as negligible.

I am here to learn. It seems most others are here to pour scorn and boost their egos by dumping on others.

Once more it seems that the test is time, The truth will eventually come out. By then, the planet may have fewer humans.

Edited by zooterkin: 

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Edited for rule 0 and rule 12.

 

[PartSkeptic]

Amazing. People see what they want to see ( or not see). Both about God and about MT emfs.

I could answer the posts and the misrepresentations, and I could do the WiFi test. But what would I achieve? I am still waiting for an answer.

Most posters (and probably readers) are now firmly convinced they have defeated another dangerous spreader of (mis)information.

No wonder God needs to intervene. No cooperation among people on important issues - just blind followers of industry (and political) propaganda.

Go ahead, pile on the ad hominems. It will give you guys a warm fuzzy feeling to think you have defeated another deluded "believer". But it will be because I give up and not by logical argument.

 

[Cosmic Yak]

Amazing. People see what they want to see ( or not see). Both about God and about MT emfs.

I could answer the posts and the misrepresentations, and I could do the WiFi test. But what would I achieve? I am still waiting for an answer.

You are not still waiting for an answer. Don't lie. I'm sure your god has rules about that.

Most posters (and probably readers) are now firmly convinced they have defeated another dangerous spreader of (mis)information.

Citations needed for your knowledge of both the motivations and the conclusions of most posters. How do you know this?

No wonder God needs to intervene. No cooperation among people on important issues - just blind followers of industry (and political) propaganda.

Can you point to any recent intervention by your god that has improved cooperation among people? Why would it do that, if its aim is to kill those same people?

Go ahead, pile on the ad hominems. It will give you guys a warm fuzzy feeling to think you have defeated another deluded "believer". But it will be because I give up and not by logical argument.

That's quite a telling statement.
Firstly, stop trying to paint yourself as some kind of martyr. You are not a martyr, and no-one here is persecuting you.
Secondly, did you mean to admit that no logical argument would make you change your mind?

 

[Hans]

That's quite a telling statement.
Firstly, stop trying to paint yourself as some kind of martyr. You are not a martyr, and no-one here is persecuting you.
Secondly, did you mean to admit that no logical argument would make you change your mind?

Classic

At this point he either has to give up and go away, continue to berate those who don't believe his foolishness, or worst yet: repeat all his claims again...

 

[Darat]

Amazing. People see what they want to see ( or not see). Both about God and about MT emfs.


...snip...

Mote and beams comes to mind.

 

[RedStapler]

Amazing. People see what they want to see ( or not see). Both about God and about MT emfs.

A very accurate description of your posts so far.

 

[Mojo]

Are you, then, not one person? You are claiming that you are a collective of some kind?

“Resistance is futile!”

 

[p0lka]

I could answer the posts and the misrepresentations, and I could do the WiFi test. But what would I achieve? I am still waiting for an answer.

What would you achieve if you did the test?

Surely you don't really need anyone to answer that? I'm surprised you haven't done the test already just to confirm what you reckon you know.

It's really really hard to think of a reason for why you haven't?

 

[Pixel42]

I could do the WiFi test. But what would I achieve? I am still waiting for an answer.

I answered you in post #691.

What you achieve is that you get to find out if your hypothesis is correct.

Usually, when an investigator formulates an hypothesis, that's something they're keen to know.

The only explanation for you not wanting to know is that you're afraid you're wrong.

 

[PartSkeptic]

This post is for the record. No doubt it will be nit-picked and criticized.

The last three days I have been unable to get any work done. I have run a couple of necessary errands but have either watched TV or sat or slept. Yesterday was the worst. I was dizzy and nauseous and could not function at all.

For the months before lock-down in mid-March I thought my illness with two pain tablets was due to having to visit the tower house. It was definitely a factor. Then during the first weeks of the lock-down I had three bouts of flu (unusual for me) and I moved from the main bedroom to the guest bedroom so I could use heat to heal myself.

The last two or three weeks of lock-down I was doing a lot better and was down to one pain tablet a day with a few days of feeling great. Then I had to start going to stores and to the tower house and I found I needed the head shield to stop the mild headaches.

My wife was very worried about how ill I was. I said that I would go to doctors but they never found anything wrong. I felt I was getting more sensitive to emf radiation. She asked me to check the house one more time. I got the meter out. The center of the house was about 0.8uW/sqm. It increased as I went down the passage to the main bedroom at the end of the house. It was about 2uW/sqm. Then I checked where I sleep and it was 4 to 5 uW/sqm. Maybe too much for me at this stage.

So last night I again slept in the guest bedroom. What a difference.I was back to a routine of sleeping till about 2 am and being awake for half an hour, then waking at 4:30 am for half an hour before waking at 6 am. In the main bedroom I did not move and slept from 8 pm to 7 am without waking.

There is a huge difference between yesterday and today. My conclusion: even 4 uW/sqm is too much.

My wife has been tired and stressed and has had a cough for 10 weeks. Her tinnitus is high. I will be putting up mesh screens to drop the radiation.

At such low values there is little doubt I would be able to sense the WiFi. If I do the test, then I will know. Why should I share with people who want to find reason to negate the test?

 

[PartSkeptic]

To those who blame psychosomatic.

Our two dogs got more and more depressed at the tower house. They were listless and stopped barking at passing people and dogs. When we brought them to the new house they did not bark for the first two months. It took them another two months to get back to barking at everything and anything.

The difference in them is quite stark.

Do a search for why are swedes depressed. You will find all sorts of reasons. Many are no doubt valid - but they do not consider that Emfs may be a factor. You do not need cancer to do harm.

https://bmcpsychiatry.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12888-018-1765-0

Depression is a leading cause of years lived with disabilities (YLDs) [1, 2] and often originates early in life [3, 4]. The prevalence of adolescents treated for depression in Sweden has increased during the past two decades, and is more common among females.

...negative psychosocial factors which can cluster in persons with low social position...

There are increases in other diseases. Diseases once seen in older people are being seen in younger people. Cancer and heart attacks. And new and novel forms of cancer. One can blame modern stress but is EMF a factor?

The rate of EMF exposure and dosage is exponential as Telcos role out massive infrastructure. There is a long delay in the harm for all but the high dosage cases. Expect the cases of harm to become much more noticeable in the next 5 to 10 years because of the massive increase in exposure.

In the case of one woman I know who is extremely sensitive they mounted antennae on a building level with her apartment and 5 meters from her bedroom. Illegal but who can stop them? She noticed periods of relief. She finally tied these periods into the times that the antennae were down for maintenance.

There are two factors for most people I know of in SA with EHS. Nearly all are women. Nearly all are highly intelligent achievers.

 

[PartSkeptic]

I answered you in post #691.

What you achieve is that you get to find out if your hypothesis is correct.

Usually, when an investigator formulates an hypothesis, that's something they're keen to know.

The only explanation for you not wanting to know is that you're afraid you're wrong.

You are so sure.

Is experimentation with humans illegal or not? Why?

 

[Pixel42]

Of course the truth is that it really is pointless for PartSkeptic to do that blind test. In the highly unlikely event it produces a positive result it will only be his word, he'd have to repeat it with unbiased witnesses to convince anyone else (though there would be nothing to stop him doing that, of course). And in the far more likely event that it produces a negative result, he will just reject it and make up reasons why it doesn't count.

Remember DowserDon? I know PS does because he contributed to his thread, it's here for anyone who missed it. It's long (14 pages) but worth checking out if you're unfamiliar with it, as it's a textbook case of how a perfectly intelligent, rational man can fool himself into believing something that isn't true.

We helped DowserDon design a simple blind test which everyone - including DowserDon - agreed would determine whether or not his hypothesis was correct. But when the result was not the one he confidently expected he didn't slap his hand to his head and say "Of course! Now I understand how I've been misled by my anecdotal experiences!" No, he twisted himself into pretzels of logic trying to explain away the perfectly clear and unambiguous result, and eventually went off in a huff when we patiently explained to him why his excuses didn't wash.

I'm quite sure PartSkeptic would do the same if he ever actually plucked up the courage to test his hypothesis in the way DowserDon did.

 

[Pixel42]

You are so sure.

I'm sure the only way for you to prove (to yourself) you're right is to do the test, if that's what you mean.

Is experimentation with humans illegal or not?

Of course it isn't. Every new medical treatment goes through a human trial stage. Everyone who has an allergy test to find out what is causing their symptoms is deliberately exposed to things that might provoke an allergic reaction. People who think they might have a food intolerance frequently methodically remove and then re-introduce foods into their diet to identify the culprit. That last is really all that we're suggesting you do.

 

[Pixel42]

At such low values there is little doubt I would be able to sense the WiFi. If I do the test, then I will know. Why should I share with people who want to find reason to negate the test?

You should do the test to know. You can choose to share or not afterwards, but that has no bearing on the reason for doing the test.

If the result is positive then you'll need to repeat it with independent witnesses to convince anyone else, that's as it should be. But the first step is to convince yourself. I know you're already convinced, but you really shouldn't be.

 

[Cosmic Yak]

To those who blame psychosomatic.

>ramblesnip<

Yup. More anecdotes. That'll do it.