Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 22

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The Don said:
What is it boy* ?

Can you hear the whistle ?

Who's a good boy then ?


* - yet another whistle - I'm so frikkkin** meta

** - and another, I'm on fire this morning :rolleyes:
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Not shocked, Dolt 45 has always been a white supremacist, and like the white supremacy squad here, he outright enjoys seeing black people killed. His whistles are...less dog, and more...



Don't be shocked if some group of his idiot sycophants show up shooting, and get themselves killed in the process.
 
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I do wonder, if that order against Twitter makes it, won't that also expose Alex Jones and his ilk to problems?
 
Norman Alexander said:
I understand where you are going, but there's a double negative backflip here. The other way is to moderate EVERYTHING on their forums. Heavily. So they never get to be liable for defamation. So, as I said, Twitter could simply blank out everything Trump. Black hole the lot of it. No Trump crap => no defamation by him or to him. Go back to kitten recipes only. It's a private company. How is anyone but them going to force them to publish what they don't want to publish?
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This would either involve far more man-hours than twitter has to spare, or the implementation of excessive algorithms that would see people abandoning the platform in droves.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

@Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg is today criticizing Twitter. “We have a different policy than Twitter on this. I believe strongly that Facebook shouldn’t be the arbiter of truth of everything that people say online.” Did Twitter criticize Obama for his “you can keep your Dr.”?
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Stacyhs said:
Oh, god....you little *****. Get over it. You're not Obama. Never have been and never will be. You are **** on the bottom of his shoes.
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Not to mention that if Obama did not make that claim on Twitter, then, no, Twitter would not go out of its way to criticize him for it.

Trump really has gotten to be that crazy uncle who uses words to stand for things they plainly do not mean- "ban," "treason," and now "censor." I don't know whether it bothers me more if that's because the President of the U.S. really is so stupid that he doesn't actually know that those words don't mean what he thinks they do, or because he knows and doesn't care that the people he aims his misfires at don't know and don't care.
 
Trebuchet said:
For exercising her right to free speech.
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Not really. It indicates a reluctance to abide by an executive order. She expressed that reluctance, yes, but if he fires her, it won't be for exercising her free speech rights.

A president has the right to put people in place who are aligned with his policies (I'm *NOT* speaking of the IGs here!). That said, of course the quoted commissioner is right and the Senate would be right not to confirm a lapdog who would carry out Trump's orders without question.

Of course, the Senate will confirm any damn fool Trump nominates. At worst, he has to nominate the person twice apparently. But were they to have some sort of moral fortitude, they would be right to exercise it.

ETA: All of the above presumes that FCC Commissioners can be fired at will by the President. Since the commissioner quoted is a Democrat, I doubt that is correct. I did not realize she's a Democrat before writing this.
 
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Trump Tweets


Twitter is doing nothing about all of the lies & propaganda being put out by China or the Radical Left Democrat Party. They have targeted Republicans, Conservatives & the President of the United States. Section 230 should be revoked by Congress. Until then, it will be regulated!
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets


Twitter is doing nothing about all of the lies & propaganda being put out by China or the Radical Left Democrat Party. They have targeted Republicans, Conservatives & the President of the United States. Section 230 should be revoked by Congress. Until then, it will be regulated!
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Regulated?

Twitter will be regulated? (Honestly, grammatically, he could mean Congress or Section 230 will be regulated, but I think he means Twitter.)

I must've missed something in the discussion of the EO.
 
This is the prototypical 'breaking story.' So far news outlets like CBS News are reporting:
President Trump on Friday called protesters in Minneapolis "thugs" and vowed that "when the looting starts, the shooting starts." He tweeted after protesters outraged by the death of a black man in police custody torched a police station. The tweet was quickly flagged by Twitter as "glorifying violence." CBS News link
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CBS further reported:
The quote the president tweeted — "when the looting starts, the shooting starts" — was said by former Miami Police Chief Walter Headley during a December 1967 news conference, according to The Washington Post. Miami had a long history of aggressive policing. The Post said that quote was cited by a national commission as a contributing factor in rioting that broke out in the mostly black Liberty City section of Miami in August 1968.
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I saw this man -- in real time -- ignore advice and lead the USFL football league to disaster. Then he did the same thing -- throw caution to the wind -- and lead his Atlantic City casino operation straight down the tubes. It's what he does. Crash things. Now he's doing it to the United States of America. How will this end? At a time like this, with the ongoing pandemic with all the attendant economic problems, trump's behavior is becoming intolerable. :(
 
Trump Tweets

“Regulate Twitter if they are going to start regulating free speech.”
@JudgeJeanine @foxandfriends
Well, as they have just proven conclusively, that’s what they are doing. Repeal Section 230!!!



“The President has been targeted by Twitter.” @MariaBartiromo
What about all of the lies and fraudulent statements made by Adam Schiff, and so many others, on the Russian Witch Hunt Plus, Plus, Plus? What about China’s propaganda? WHO’s mistakes? No flags?
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People are dying, people are rioting, people are jobless and this is what the president is worried about.
 
newyorkguy said:
I saw this man -- in real time -- ignore advice and lead the USFL football league to disaster. Then he did the same thing -- throw caution to the wind -- and lead his Atlantic City casino operation straight down the tubes. It's what he does. Crash things. Now he's doing it to the United States of America. How will this end? At a time like this, with the ongoing pandemic with all the attendant economic problems, trump's behavior is becoming intolerable. :(
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Don't forget the time he stared directly into a solar eclipse.
 
Belz... said:
I'd love to see his reaction in real time if Twitter just decided to ban his account.
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Won't they have to, if the EO does overturn the legal protections of platforms and makes them as responsible for content as publishers? If that becomes the case then platforms will have to drop any user who strays into any remarks that could get them sued. Trump's got a very extensive history of making offensive and libellous remarks on Twitter, and now threats of violence. As a direct consequence of the idiot getting what he wants he'd lose his account almost immediately.
 
Safe-Keeper said:
It also means people can't like the tweet. He's going to go ballistic over that. I'm sure Trump is narcassistic enough to obsess over the likes and retweets of every single Tweet he posts.
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Of course! After all:

Donald Trump said:
The people that know me and know the history of our Country say that I am the hardest working President in history. I don’t know about that, but I am a hard worker and have probably gotten more done in the first 3 1/2 years than any President in history. The Fake News hates it!
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I have to give Twitter credit for standing up to the swaggering bully who is the current U.S. president. Win, lose or draw I give them high marks for that. In contrast to Mark Zuckerberg. A Harvard Crimson editor once described him after a meeting as seeming "very sleazy." Zuckerberg read that comment for himself after he used his fledgling Facebook to hack her email. Story on Business Insider

While we're waiting for the other shoe to drop:
A couple of satirical websites are putting Facebook's stance that it shouldn't be the "arbiter of truth" to the test. The Shovel and The Chaser, both satirical websites based in Australia, shared parody stories on Facebook with headlines that are filled with false claims about Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg. The Shovel's headline incorrectly said the Facebook CEO had died, while The Chaser's headline falsely called Zuckerberg a "child molester." Business Insider
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newyorkguy said:
I have to give Twitter credit for standing up to the swaggering bully who is the current U.S. president. Win, lose or draw I give them high marks for that. In contrast to Mark Zuckerberg. A Harvard Crimson editor once described him after a meeting as seeming "very sleazy." Zuckerberg read that comment for himself after he used his fledgling Facebook to hack her email. Story on Business Insider

While we're waiting for the other shoe to drop:
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Facebook's positions are aligned with its own self interest. Their head of editing is a republican who benefits politically from the current policy. It appears that conservative conspiracies fuel engagement with Facebook.

If it is a principle, it is a remarkably convenient one.
 
newyorkguy said:
I have to give Twitter credit for standing up to the swaggering bully who is the current U.S. president. Win, lose or draw I give them high marks for that. In contrast to Mark Zuckerberg. A Harvard Crimson editor once described him after a meeting as seeming "very sleazy." Zuckerberg read that comment for himself after he used his fledgling Facebook to hack her email.
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So the man just proved the e-mail's allegation by reading it. It's almost as if the e-mail was written in anticipation of the hack!

Imagine breaking into a jewelry store and finding a sign that reads "You're a criminal, <your name>!"
 
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