Kerry: US troops are terrorists

[Jocko]

At least Kerry can speak in public without having to rely on a pre-written speech. I wouldn't fault him so much if he made a slip-up like the one above. (ie. Iraqi forces should be the ones terrorizing children.)

Wow, is that off-topic. Thanks for stopping by, though.

 

[Perforatu]

What do you call one who "terrorizes," Mark?

What do you call one who "plays transparent and pointless semantic games"?

 

[Manny]

A semanticist.

 

[Grammatron]

What do you call one who "plays transparent and pointless semantic games"?

Pundit.

 

[Snide]

I'll agree with that Mark.

His comments are far, far, far from calling US troops terrorists -- at least in the context we use today. However, from political perspective that's a very dumb thing to say.

Exactly my point. Stupid because it was careless. Careless because it will be used against him by little minds.

A terrorizer, duh

Dang, beat me to it!

 

[Mark]

I'll agree with that Mark.

His comments are far, far, far from calling US troops terrorists -- at least in the context we use today. However, from political perspective that's a very dumb thing to say.

Hey, we agreed on something!

You summed it up very well, too.

 

[Jocko]

Exactly my point. Stupid because it was careless. Careless because it will be used against him by little minds.

Funny thing is, I totally agree too. My point was that had that "careless" remark been made from the oval office, there would be a dozen threads here screaming for impeachment.

That, and I wanted to see how much I could spike Mark's blood pressure.

ETA: But that still doesn't excuse an unsupported portrait of troops "terrorizing" kids in the dead of night. No matter how you cut it, it's still paiting us as the bad guy. And THAT'S no slip of the tongue.

 

[Major Billy]

Seriously, who is calling the shots in the DNC? Are they that interested in getting Nixon elected again?

So, Jocko, do you believe that young American soldiers need to be going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children?

 

[Jocko]

So, Jocko, do you believe that young American soldiers need to be going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children?

So, Billy, do you believe this is in fact what is happening? I prefer to keep hypotheticals to a minimum... they confuse Mark.

 

[Mark]

Funny thing is, I totally agree too. My point was that had that "careless" remark been made from the oval office, there would be a dozen threads here screaming for impeachment.

That, and I wanted to see how much I could spike Mark's blood pressure.

ETA: But that still doesn't excuse an unsupported portrait of troops "terrorizing" kids in the dead of night. No matter how you cut it, it's still paiting us as the bad guy. And THAT'S no slip of the tongue.

I'd love to see your leg muscles after so much backpedaling.

 

[Snide]

Funny thing is, I totally agree too. My point was that had that "careless" remark been made from the oval office, there would be a dozen threads here screaming for impeachment.

Well, I disagree with that, the literal and figurative. I would hope there would be more of the left-leaners who would say it was just a slip at worst, like Skeptic did in this case.

That, and I wanted to see how much I could spike Mark's blood pressure.

Yeah, I figured it was a quasi-troll. I'd expect nothing less from you, ha ha. When I read your posts, I remind myself that you are in advertising, and I can assume that, as I used to do for five years in radio, you've written (if not still) your share of commercial copy over the years. So I know not to take you so literally.

 

[Jocko]

I'd love to see your leg muscles after so much backpedaling.

I'd love to see you changing your shorts at being vindicated on a semantic issue while ignoring the larger point at hand, namely Kerry's contempt for the military and the DNC smears going out over the airwaves as facts.

 

[Grammatron]

Yes, Jocko, what Kerry said was dumb and perhaps even dangerous. For one thing "...terrorizing kids and children, you know women..." That's just a poorly constructed sentence. Also "Iraqis should be doing that..." that's just plain stupid.

The danger part comes into the fact that he paints US troops' actions as wrong and incensitive. It doesn't call them terrorist, but certainly does not make them good either.

I sure hope he's not planning on running again...for any office.

 

[Snide]

ETA: But that still doesn't excuse an unsupported portrait of troops "terrorizing" kids in the dead of night. No matter how you cut it, it's still paiting us as the bad guy. And THAT'S no slip of the tongue.

I missed this part, and while I see your point, first I'd rather determine whether the claim is true.

 

[Jocko]

The danger part comes into the fact that he paints US troops' actions as wrong and incensitive. It doesn't call them terrorist, but certainly does not make them good either.

Agreed. It's a culture of assuming guilt of US troops, combined with a willingess of certain useful idiots to believe it. I don't see it so much as a bad sentence so much as a Freudian slip.

 

[geni]

What do you call one who "terrorizes," Mark?

School teacher.

 

[Jocko]

I missed this part, and while I see your point, first I'd rather determine whether the claim is true.

Schieffer doens't challenge him on it. Draw your own conclusions.

(Sorry to edit late, work distracted me for a minute. Won't happen again.)

 

[Manny]

School teacher.

You must have missed the comma there.

 

[kalen]

Wow, is that off-topic. Thanks for stopping by, though.

Hey! I've been declared "off-topic" by Jocko! Boy, is my face red.

Jocko, although you started the thread and are intent on "debating" the semantics of the word terrorist, I think the discussion can be broadened just a little.

 

[Mark]

Agreed. It's a culture of assuming guilt of US troops, combined with a willingess of certain useful idiots to believe it. I don't see it so much as a bad sentence so much as a Freudian slip.

Let's see...first you falsely accuse Kerry of calling the troops terrorists.

Then you say you only did it to get a rise out of me.

Now you say Kerry didn't actually say it, but it was a Freudian slip...thus implying that he meant it, even though he didn't say it.

Wow.