Jogging in Georgia while black.

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JoeMorgue said:
Again the number of people who are okay with murdering people who are "up to no good" is sickening.

As I've said watching people play the "How much can we just say 'Sure he was murdered, but he was a no-good thug and the world is better off' without actually saying it game?" got old a while ago.

We will, as ordered for reasons of "civility," continue to pretend the obvious reason doesn't exist.
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No, we won't. The people acting as you described are doing it because they are racists.
 
sir drinks-a-lot said:
His behavior in the video suggests a certain kind of character that suggests to me he's more like to be involved in criminal activity. Mode of dress, confrontational manner with police, and many more subtle behavioral cues I've picked up upon from being part of and associating with the criminal elements of society.
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A very astute observation and of course, predictably, it got you screamed at by the usual suspects and accused of practically being as bad as... gasp... ME!

But it's just "real talk" as they say. If an elderly black man or woman who lived in a rough area saw that video and said "you know, I still think what happened to him was wrong and a tragedy, but I can tell the boy was a thug now. The way he dressed, his attitude, the way he talked - boy was a thug."

These same people would regard what that person said as sage, hard won wisdom that had to be received with respect.

Of course, having now seen that 2017 video myself, I agree that everything about how he chose to present himself there was someone who, at minimum, wanted to be perceived as a thug and an imposing individual.

Now some people will try to dress like that to falsely put on a front of being hard, but then you see them interact with cops and it's a 180 from that and I guess those people would be categorized as posers. Especially by their friends. If they saw them being all deferential, respectful, and restrained when questioned by cops.

But if his thug friends see this 2017 video, they will have no reason to lose any respect for him at all. He was the real deal, as far as I can tell. He was aggressive, loud, confrontational, charging up to the officer in an angry fashion, begrudgingly compliant with police commands, etc.

This was not someone who pretended to be a volatile, violent thug to get respect. This was someone who was that.

Of course, the naive here will view this video as a poor put upon black man being needlessly bothered by cops while doing nothing wrong.

Perhaps.

But don't they realize that one of the most common, tried and true tactics of anyone who is at risk of being caught doing wrong is to put on a big angry show of how indignant and offended you are to even have it implied that you might be up to no good? How absolutely DARE you sir?

This is my one day off a week! I'm just trying to relax! I don't know anything about this area being associated with drug activity! I'm going to do everything I can to make you cops just decide dealing with me isn't worth it.

And maybe that was all legit, or maybe he successfully threw them off the trail of finding something in that car.
 
Skeptic Tank said:
But it's just "real talk" as they say. If an elderly black man or woman who lived in a rough area saw that video and said "you know, I still think what happened to him was wrong and a tragedy, but I can tell the boy was a thug now. The way he dressed, his attitude, the way he talked - boy was a thug."
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You forgot to mention how nervous his haircut makes them.
 
I'm withholding my judgement of Arbery's character until the Medical Examiner comes back with the phrenology analysis.
 
smartcooky said:
Oh dear. The apple really doesn't fall far from the tree does it!?
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The Arbery's lawyer claims that, prior to their arrest, the McMichaels were bragging about the killing on social media. I haven't been able to verify that, but it's not a stretch of the imagination. Whole family of scumbags.

What a rollercoaster it must have been for these killers. They got caught red handed and got a free pass from the DA, only to find themselves in jail for Murder a couple months later. Talk about whiplash.
 
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Darat said:
Let's not forget that initially claimed they saw him put his hand in his shorts the "other night"..... if that isn't a clear indication that a black man is armed days later I don't know what is!

Seriously - the initial statement shows they knew they had to have a "reason" for hunting him whilst armed:


"...."the other night" they saw the same male and he stuck his hand down his pants which lead them to believe the male was armed..."​
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But such a claim is most ridiculous if it is legal to carry arms in Georgia. The McMichaels are armed and think that another person in Georgia does not have the right to bear arms.

How stupid can that be!!!

They should serve life sentences for their stupidity alone.
 
dejudge said:
But such a claim is most ridiculous if it is legal to carry arms in Georgia. The McMichaels are armed and think that another person in Georgia does not have the right to bear arms.

How stupid can that be!!!

They should serve life sentences for their stupidity alone.
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Yes, the man riding in the bed of a moving pickup with a .357 magnum was concerned that Arbery might be armed because someone was seen reaching into a pocket on a previous occasion.

Beyond parody.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Yes, the man riding in the bed of a moving pickup with a .357 magnum was concerned that Arbery might be armed because someone was seen reaching into a pocket on a previous occasion.

Beyond parody.
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It will continue to seem like parody to you as long as you continue to engage in such thorough context denial.

Applying double standards makes all the sense in the world once you actually input the relevant values into the equation.

This was not Entity A and Entity B, this was a homeowner, former law enforcement, guy who was aware of suspicious trespassing behavior and stuff going missing at the house under construction as well as other vehicles / areas around the neighborhood on one hand, and a sneaking suspicious thug from outside the neighborhood who ran when confronted, on the other.

Why insist on trying to pretend these are two interchangeable human units?
 
Skeptic Tank said:
It will continue to seem like parody to you as long as you continue to engage in such thorough context denial.

Applying double standards makes all the sense in the world once you actually input the relevant values into the equation.

This was not Entity A and Entity B, this was a homeowner, former law enforcement, guy who was aware of suspicious trespassing behavior and stuff going missing at the house under construction as well as other vehicles / areas around the neighborhood on one hand, and a sneaking suspicious thug from outside the neighborhood who ran when confronted, on the other.

Why insist on trying to pretend these are two interchangeable human units?
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It's quite clear they aren't interchangeable. Two are accused murderers and the other is their victim.
 
Why bother using the "thug" code word for black after you've already proudly accepted your mantel of racist?

Yes we get it, one party was simply by fiat a lesser agent in the encounter.
 
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JoeMorgue said:
Why bother using the "thug" code word for black after you've already proudly accepted your mantel of racist?

Yes we get it, one party was simply by fiat a lesser agent in the encounter.
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Because, racist though I may be, why would I want to see some high IQ, chess playing, Cosby sweater wearing black guy get shot and killed?

I believe in differences which exist on average, but this obviously allows for the possibility (reality) of smart, self-controlled, law-abiding black men. I've known some myself. It would be silly to pretend that such people don't exist.

So obviously it's still relevant to me that Ahmaud was a thug. It's important information which sheds light on his behavior and his fate.
 
Skeptic Tank said:
I believe in differences which exist on average, but this obviously allows for the possibility (reality) of smart, self-controlled, law-abiding black men. I've known some myself. It would be silly to pretend that such people don't exist.
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Hoffman: It seems to be, I think, that every good German knows one or two good Jews.
Eichmann: Before they can be good Jews they must be, by definition, first be Jews. No they too go on the trains.
 
Dave Rogers said:
"Because he's a villain, sir."

"A villain."

"And a jailbird sir ."

"I know he's a jailbird, Savage, he's down in the cells now. We're holding him on a charge of being caught in possession of curly black hair and thick lips."
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Oddly (or not...) I was thinking of that very piece earlier; certain folk in this thread are definitely reminiscent of PC Savage.
 
Don't forget the words of the accused murderer to 911 "....there is a black guy running down the street....". Seconds later he is gunned down.
 
Also the fact the security footage showed no fewer than 5 different people routinely trespassing at the building site.

But only one of them was run down in the street and shoot to death.

BUT NOBODY BRING THAT UP!
 
dejudge said:
Don't forget the words of the accused murderer to 911 "....there is a black guy running down the street....". Seconds later he is gunned down.
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And which interpretation of that moment do you think is more likely?

1.) In the heat of the chase he was quickly describing what the arriving officers should look for in order to locate the event

2.) He was offering up what he viewed as the only necessary justification for the murderous lynching he knew was about to commence: there is a black male existing here

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