Biden for President?

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Tero said:
Biden most likely did come on to her.
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There is no evidence to support any claim that he did anything to her. But if you don't understand the difference between "coming on" and a forcible sexual assault, I hope there are no women in your life.
 
I'm going to go out on a limb here: now that the combined efforts of the bitter BernieBros and the **** stirring Trump supporters to prop up the Reade accusations have catastrophically failed, we aren't going to hear a peep about her any more. Instead, the fringe reset will go back to dementia. Does anyone disagree?
 
wareyin said:
I'm going to go out on a limb here: now that the combined efforts of the bitter BernieBros and the **** stirring Trump supporters to prop up the Reade accusations have catastrophically failed, we aren't going to hear a peep about her any more. Instead, the fringe reset will go back to dementia. Does anyone disagree?
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I don't know. I don't think they are done with pretending the evidence presented discrediting the accusation doesn't exist. Couple pages from now the Vox and PBS pieces will seem like they never existed.
 
wareyin said:
I'm going to go out on a limb here: now that the combined efforts of the bitter BernieBros and the **** stirring Trump supporters to prop up the Reade accusations have catastrophically failed, we aren't going to hear a peep about her any more. Instead, the fringe reset will go back to dementia. Does anyone disagree?
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Amen, brother. You are doing the Lord’s work.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
I don't know. I don't think they are done with pretending the evidence presented discrediting the accusation doesn't exist. Couple pages from now the Vox and PBS pieces will seem like they never existed.
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Agreed. But don't put the 'dementia' bit to bed yet. Next time Biden makes a gaffe, they'll trot it out.
 
Stacyhs said:
Agreed. But don't put the 'dementia' bit to bed yet. Next time Biden makes a gaffe, they'll trot it out.
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I think on that front, Biden and Trump are tied. Except Trump is so ill, instead of admitting he spoke or posted a gaffe, he denies it. That's a whole other level of dementia.
 
Stacyhs said:
Why on earth is it "likely" he did come onto her? None of his many staffers who worked with him said he EVER treated women with anything but respect. He was never included in the female staffers' "list of senators to avoid getting on an elevator alone with." In fact, they said he had the reputation of treating women as equals to men. Your speculation is not based on any evidence whatsoever.
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Right, back then Biden was an angel. No one felt uncomfortable around him. Reade's allegations have no evidence and we can take the info from the PBS piece and conclude that perhaps Reade is confused or confabulating or something.

Now . . . within the last 15 years or so, we do have the hair sniffing thing and making women and girls feel uncomfortable.

Do you have any thoughts on that?
 
Stacyhs said:
Please don't tell me that you think Biden has dementia.
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Sorry, just using the terminology of the discussion.

Dementia has a specific diagnosis. Generally before that stage one has mild cognitive impairment. I doubt either of them are at that stage. A couple gaffes is hardly diagnostic for MCI.
 
xjx388 said:
Right, back then Biden was an angel. No one felt uncomfortable around him. Reade's allegations have no evidence and we can take the info from the PBS piece and conclude that perhaps Reade is confused or confabulating or something.

Now . . . within the last 15 years or so, we do have the hair sniffing thing and making women and girls feel uncomfortable.
Do you have any thoughts on that?
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Some women uncomfortable. If I barely knew him I would be uncomfortable. The actions invade people's space. I'm surprised he didn't stop it decades ago. But we are where we are. He knows now, women don't all appreciate it.

But it's never been shown to escalate into sexual abuse or assault. NEVER. So you got nothing.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Some women uncomfortable. If I barely knew him I would be uncomfortable. The actions invade people's space. I'm surprised he didn't stop it decades ago. But we are where we are. He knows now, women don't all appreciate it.

But it's never been shown to escalate into sexual abuse or assault. NEVER. So you got nothing.
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As was noted in the PBS piece, Biden was 50 when this was supposed to have taken place. Also as the psychologist in the article noted, it would be highly unusual for that kind of behavior to have suddenly occurred at that age. Biden had no reputation at all for that kind of behavior before or at that time, and as noted, his reputation was the exact opposite. Not before, and not since, has any woman accused him of anything more than putting his hands on their shoulders or ...oh, shock!...telling them their hair smells nice.

And as I read quoted in your post, this did not start in the last 15 years or so. Biden already had a reputation for being touchy when Reade worked for him...but not in a sexual way. As noted, it was seen as more paternal or empathetic, never sexual.
 
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Biden is also missing the most easily obtained piece of evidence:
opportunity.

means are common, motive is hard to prove.

But opportunity to have "affairs", coerced or otherwise, requires time apart from family - something Biden had by all accounts extremely little of.
 
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The Great Zaganza said:
Biden is also missing the most easily obtained piece of evidence:
opportunity.

means are common, motive is hard to prove.

But opportunity to have "affairs", coerced or otherwise, requires time apart from family - something Biden had by all accounts extremely little of.
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No one has accused Biden of affairs which, as you say, involve time. What Reade accused Biden of would take less than 5 minutes.
 
Stacyhs said:
No one has accused Biden of affairs which, as you say, involve time. What Reade accused Biden of would take less than 5 minutes.
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man who do what Reade has accused Biden of don't just have 5min interactions with their victims and nothing else.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
man who do what Reade has accused Biden of don't just have 5min interactions with their victims and nothing else.
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Depends on the man and what he gets out of it. Some men just harass women but never progress to physical assaults. Some men prefer a quick assault to a more complicated time consuming affair.
 
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