PartSkeptic’s Thread for Predictions and Other Matters of Interest

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Pixel42 said:
Ghost hunters buy expensive EMR meters too.

Cargo cult science at its finest.
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I cannot believe you are trying to somehow discredit something as simple as a radio receiver with a defined bandwidth that can measure average radio power received and also peak radio power received.

You are trying to discrediting the scientists who study the effects of electrosmog. You discredit yourself by using such blatant smear tactics.

The Telcos flew in an engineer with two assistants to measure the radiation in various areas of our house and property using a very expensive and sophisticated spectrum analyzer. Guess what? He got the readings that were pretty much the same as what I got.

I thought the testing was going to be used to blind the judge with science but it had a more sinister motive - to hide the electric power bill for the illegal power-on using badly drawn graphs and perjury by company executives.
 
I do not presume to know how to draw reliable conclusions from a bunch of measurements made with an EMR meter. And I'm a (retired) chartered engineer. I would need to do significant research, and ideally get appropriate training, before I was confident that I had sufficient understanding to extract meaning from such data.
 
Pixel42 said:
Just picking one of the more ludicrous statements out of that screed:



If a virus was deliberately engineered to decrease the population it would target the young and healthy before they reproduce. The most likely to be dead soon anyway, and unlikely to add to the population in the meantime, would be the last group to be targeted.

This is what happens when you make the vaguest of vague predictions, wait to see what actually happens, and then desperately try to retrofit it to match the prediction.
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Let me be clear. The message I got from God was simple. I do not deny trying to figure out how he planned to do it. And how he planned to change peoples thinking. Somehow you think the message is somehow discredited by my own assumptions and guesswork and debate, even if it is informed by the psychic experiences I have had.

You want God to put his plan of action on stone tablets with exact and provable details. God does not care to prove himself. But he does want people to start becoming more moral and good - as various prophets have already laid out.

Most people (the masses who will want the change) are likely to accept simple logic. Like God wants the population reduced and he is hinting at that by reducing the sector that most needs reducing. I say that even though I am one of the vulnerable. And this is what atheists fear most - that the masses will want to appease God.

I am trying to say that part of God's message (gathered by the lessons of my experience) is that the religions MUST update and work together. The beliefs of atheists should not be the agenda to foment more strife and discord. It will boomerang.
 
Pixel42 said:
I do not presume to know how to draw reliable conclusions from a bunch of measurements made with an EMR meter. And I'm a (retired) chartered engineer. I would need to do significant research, and ideally get appropriate training, before I was confident that I had sufficient understanding to extract meaning from such data.
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And I am an electrical engineer who has done radio emissions and susceptibility testing of electronic devices to get regulatory approval. I know the science and I know what I am doing and talking about. (Perhaps one of the reasons God chose me.:))
 
PartSkeptic said:
And I am an electrical engineer who has done radio emissions and susceptibility testing of electronic devices to get regulatory approval. I know the science and I know what I am doing and talking about.
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OK then, describe in detail the scientific chain of reasoning from

The reading I get on the meter is [X]

to

Cell phone radiation is causing my physical symptom [Y]
 
Pardon me if I skip to the meat, having, I confess, not read all the nonsense here in detail. You say God does not want people to know the truth, but God has spoken to you and told you.

Might we ask what makes you so special? I mean, if you're the chosen messenger of God, what are you doing doodling around on a forum like this? Any messenger of God worth spit should be out in the world really doing stuff. We wouldn't be reading about you here. You'd be in the papers.

Popular accounts have Jesus sitting on an ass but it wasn't his own.
 
Mojo said:
Perhaps if you asked less obsequious people you would find them more observant.
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I didn’t notice the either until they were everywhere and you can’t get away from them. I have darker ideas about them but part of there function is in powering the images you see in part
 
PartSkeptic said:
It seems that God is a little more intelligent than you. God has an agenda which is simple to state but takes a very clever implementation to achieve.

The agenda is: a) Decrease the world population b) Change society to recognize the wrong direction and become more spiritual.
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Thanos, is that you?
 
PartSkeptic said:
So easy to make fake statements, then put your feet up and say show me the science. I will give you a hint.

Look at the time slot given to each cell phone. Check the peak power. Work out the duration of exposure for one call based on a average number of minutes per call. Remember the phone broadcasts away from the body. Estimate a typical number of calls per day. Calculate the energy absorbed by the whole body per day.

Then look at a tower. How many antennae are on a typical tower. Each antennae works full time handling a number of cell phones. What is the radiated power for a 20 meter tower with non-directional antennae 10 meters away from the tower. Then calculate the energy absorbed by the body of a person who works from home for each 24 hour period.

Compare the two.

Now take into account the reflections and recombinations of waves as they bounce around the house giving standing waves and short peak energies in the body.

Or you could do an experiment. Put a person in the house next to the tower and observe the health problems. Using people for experiments is supposed to be illegal, yet that is what is being done.

Check the wavelengths for 3G and 4G and check the dimensions of a person's head. Then check the penetration. How does that compare with a rats head. Do you think one can extrapolate from rats to people?
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I certainly agree with your first statement.

So you have no science to back you claims just personal conjecture?
 
This is not a derail of my own thread. It is part of my history of why I know a lot of things - by experience.

I see Trump is saying that one could perhaps inject disinfectant into people to kill the virus. And doctors are astounded.

A few years ago in order to try to kill the fungus I have inside me I tried intravenous hydrogen peroxide - a bleaching agent and powerful disinfectant. I did it twice. I had the typical Herxheimer reactions afterward - as the body detoxifies, it is not uncommon to experience flu-like symptoms including headache, joint and muscle pain, body aches, sore throat, general malaise, sweating, chills, nausea or other symptoms

Using a dark field microscope on live blood one can see the fungus in the blood and watch the platelets clot.

Hydrogen peroxide is what the enzymes produce to give to the killer cells which squirt it onto the foreign cell to kill it. Raising the body temperature with a fever, or outside forcing is necessary for the enzymes to produce hydrogen peroxide.

Do you see how many unusual events I have been through to gain knowledge?
 
Pixel42 said:
OK then, describe in detail the scientific chain of reasoning from

The reading I get on the meter is [X]

to

Cell phone radiation is causing my physical symptom [Y]
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Very well put. You have a talent for being able to make an issue crisp and clear (only at times, I would add ;)).

My answer is: by scientific observation and deduction.

I spent 18 months in different levels of radiation with various periods of high and low radiation. There was a clear link between the radiation and the harmful effect and the lack of radiation and the slow disappearance (not all the time) of the effect. The whole study would take a long time to detail, and to explain why it is not psychosomatic, or other effects. Mostly I used the cause and effect method, and confirmed the link by repeated observations, and also repeated observations under varying conditions. The linkage is obvious to any person.

If you dismiss any study not done by a university or accredited institution then you will no doubt dismiss my study. That does not falsify any of what I have observed or my conclusions. What it does do is say that it is very suspicious that there are no such studies being done.

The universities and institutions know (see the story of Henry Lai from 1994) that they will be defunded and attacked if they were to do such a study. You do realize that science has a long way to go to be able to scientifically test whether a person is actually in pain or is faking it. The only scientifically testable effect was the diarrhea (3 weeks) I experienced because it would show no pathogens that were causing it. I did have a sample tested and it was indeed negative.

I have proposed a test but no-one wants to draw an attack upon themselves. I have seen the reactions of medical teaching professionals when I mention it. They agree that I am onto something, then get reluctant to get into it any further.

By your standards, you will not accept that there is a link. The Telcos rely on people like you to discredit any anecdotal evidence. They particularly do not want a gathering of anecdotal cases which might be construed as an scientific epidemiological study which shows a possible link.

It took a long time for tobacco to be shown to be causing cancer. A twenty year delay. Do you credit science with being currently so advanced as to be able to able to show a link with electrosmog especially when the mechanism is understood but is so complex that they use cancer is used as the marker for DNA damage in lab experiments.

The cell damage and DNA damage at various levels is well documented in thousands to studies. But the industries have learned from history and they employ thousands of people and many companies to mount disinformation campaigns. They have made a science and an industry out of this. Read the book "Merchants of Doubt". This forum is a willing partner of that industry and has thrown skepticism of the industry to the wind. They attack credible people like me.

Do you want some clear examples of cause and effect so you can try and pull them apart? We do them one at a time and I can give you quite a few so eventually your explanations of "coincidence" begin to wane thin.
 
Exactly the combination of handwaving and anecdote I expected, and would also get if I asked a ghost hunter to give me the chain of scientific reasoning from "The reading on my meter is [X]" to "There is a ghost present in this room". Like I said, cargo cult science at its finest.

You have no more understanding of the process by which scientific knowledge is gained than those Pacific Islanders had of the process by which cargo is produced and transported. As also demonstrated in your other post, in response to which I can only echo Mojo's :boggled:
 
bruto said:
Pardon me if I skip to the meat, having, I confess, not read all the nonsense here in detail. You say God does not want people to know the truth, but God has spoken to you and told you.

Might we ask what makes you so special? I mean, if you're the chosen messenger of God, what are you doing doodling around on a forum like this? Any messenger of God worth spit should be out in the world really doing stuff. We wouldn't be reading about you here. You'd be in the papers.

Popular accounts have Jesus sitting on an ass but it wasn't his own.
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Good question and I have answered it a number of times.

Firstly I am no "messenger" or prophet in the category of the historical ones. So I do not need to be riding any "ass" anywhere or anytime. Comparing me in order to be able to heap scorn on me is a typical tactic of most atheists and it does not bother me.

I am a scientific observer privileged to be able to see the Truth of our existence, and to be able to share that with others. How much of an impact it will have will be determined by events in the years and decades ahead.

God does not work by giving anyone clear and detailed information. Even the great prophets (like Jesus and Muhammad) had to work things out, with God giving guidance. This is so as to have "plausible deniability" as to his existence. Even with the many psychic events I have had, I am not 100% certain about any of it. I assign a high probability to them being supernatural because of the circumstances and my state of mind at the time.

Although God does not want to give certain proof of his existence does not mean he does not want to give strong hints as to his existence, and strong hints as to what he expects.

The question I ask myself frequently is also "Why me?" I get embarrassed when ever I have been praised for an achievement. In school I was teased for being so bright, and the teachers accused me openly of cheating in the school exams. They said it was impossible for anyone to get the high marks I did without having seen the exam paper before hand.

I have excellent genes so I am a high achiever academically and physically. I have (much reduced now by brain shrinkage and electrosmog) memory. I was not only in the top of a really bright class but I got recognition and awards for swimming and baseball.

My abilities to analyze facts from a memorized textbook were fantastic enough that I could skip University lectures for the year and then learn the textbook the night before the exam and get a good pass. I was not motivated to excel which I could have done had I applied myself.

God seems to have taken me as able to analyze the experiences he put me through and make sense of them. He also knew I would be able to defend the eventual hypothesis in any forum, particularly a scientific forum. He knew I would be able to grasp the significance and the danger of electrosmog. He let me go through being a hard atheist to an agnostic and then accept the probability of his existence.

I have the ability to write a book and to detail the hypothesis and tie it into the experiences. I do not have the resources to get the book professionally edited or marketed but I learn from my mistakes. And I accept that God controls the timing. So when I get the second part properly done and marketed it should be successful. People will want to know what God's part in this disaster is and why.

I wanted to remain anonymous but it seems God does not want that. So I will publish under my own name. It still may not get traction. God chose someone who is not a quitter unless it is obvious I cannot win. I accept I might be wrong. That is another reason for choosing me. I see both sides of any argument even if I chose one side.

The reason I am on a forum like this is to refine the hypothesis and be able to defend it when (maybe if) the book gets traction. I have discovered that God works by giving me answers and ideas and guiding me by having a person or a book at the right time shape my hypothesis. For example, I meet a person in an airport while waiting for the next flight and they tell me personal stories of being in India at an Ashram. Another chance meeting was a person telling about going to India to spread the Gospel and having a statue tell them that Christianity is not the only true religion.

So give it time. This is a work in progress. You are part of it.
 
Pixel42 said:
Exactly the combination of handwaving and anecdote I expected, and would also get if I asked a ghost hunter to give me the chain of scientific reasoning from "The reading on my meter is [X]" to "There is a ghost present in this room". Like I said, cargo cult science at its finest.

You have no more understanding of the process by which scientific knowledge is gained than those Pacific Islanders had of the process by which cargo is produced and transported. As also demonstrated in your other post, in response to which I can only echo Mojo's :boggled:
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Exactly the answer I predicted.:jaw-dropp
 
PartSkeptic said:
Do you want some clear examples of cause and effect so you can try and pull them apart? We do them one at a time and I can give you quite a few so eventually your explanations of "coincidence" begin to wane thin.
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Pointless, as you well know, in the absence of a control baseline establishing how often such coincidences might be expected to occur by chance, and careful records showing an actual rate of occurrence which is significantly greater.

The cell damage and DNA damage at various levels is well documented in thousands to studies.
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Instead, how about links to, say, five of these "thousands" of scientific studies which demonstrate that non-ionising radiation can damage cells and DNA at levels lower than those required to actually cook flesh, i.e. at the levels given out by cell towers?
 
PartSkeptic said:
How much of an impact it will have will be determined by events in the years and decades ahead.
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We don't need to wait.

Nobody cared about your 'predictions' in the past,
Nobody cares about your 'predictions' right now,
Nobody will care about your 'predictions' in the future.
 
RedStapler said:
We don't need to wait.

Nobody cared about your 'predictions' in the past,
Nobody cares about your 'predictions' right now,
Nobody will care about your 'predictions' in the future.
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And I do not care that you do not care.

Why bother to visit this site and why bother to post? Do you feel more important now that you have offered your nuggets of wisdom?

I have had people shake their heads in the past when I insisted I was right despite being told I was talking "nonsense" by experts in different situations. I have always been proved right - and the experts were left shaking their heads in disbelief.
 
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