PartSkeptic’s Thread for Predictions and Other Matters of Interest

[gabeygoat]

It is hard to imagine it getting much worse, but it would seem that is God's plan.

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Why is this god such a jerk?

 

[beachnut]

Allah, Odin, or Thor

... It is hard to imagine it getting much worse, but it would seem that is God's plan. ...

Is that Thor? Or Allah?

Which God?

Anima Mundi
Atman
Brahma
Buddha
Christ
Divine Feminine
Kali
Oya
Divine Mother
Divine Mystery
Divine Presence
Divine Providence
Ein Sof
Eshwara
Great Spirit
Higher Power
Highest Essence
Highest Self
Holy Spirit
Infinite one
Jesus
Kosmos
Krishna
OM
Shakti
Shiva
The Infinite
The Good
The Great Spirit
The Tao
The Great Unified Field (Religion 2.0)
The Force
The Supreme
Vishu
Yahweh
YHWH
Wakan Taka

Whose plan is it?

 

[MinnesotaBrant]

5G towers give me the willies too. It seems that they on on most of the churches and apartment buildings where I live. Seems that a lot of people I have talked have never seen them despite they're in your face obsequiousness. There might be some kind of subliminal block being broadcast from them to make them invisible to most.

 

[Pixel42]

Predictions are not an exact science - in fact not a science at all. You may not accept my "story", but when the world is in serious turmoil and people are in despair, they might just give it some credence.

Sadly many people do indeed turn to superstition when times are bad. I continue to hope that a more scientifically literate populace will emerge from this, but I fear it's unlikely.

The most likely outcome is that a herculean effort by the scientifically literate will get the pandemic under control, though not without significant loss of life, and a vaccine will be produced. The "spiritual" will thank god for their deliverance rather than the scientists who were actually responsible, the conspiracy theorists will insist it was all a hoax, and the majority of people will just get on with their lives.

The point is that God wants major social and spiritual change - with or without a "story" behind it.

Many people have believed they knew what god wanted, it doesn't usually turn out well. At least he isn't telling you to blow yourself up in a crowded restaurant, I suppose we can be grateful for that much.

So far what God has told me is taking place

A major pandemic did occur before the end of 2017? Trump did nuke North Korea in September of that year? Blimey, I must have done a Rip Van Winkle.

 

[Mojo]

5G towers give me the willies too. It seems that they on on most of the churches and apartment buildings where I live. Seems that a lot of people I have talked have never seen them despite they're in your face obsequiousness.

Perhaps if you asked less obsequious people you would find them more observant.

 

[catsmate]

Finally my suspension has been lifted.

I'm sure it's only temporary.

Compare those with the vague science that a pandemic is inevitable.

Untrue.

So inevitable that Western countries sat their hands and did nothing.

Untrue.

God will not let humankind destroy the world he has made.

Sigh. There is no "god".

God only intervenes for small personal requests that are easy to do and difficult to prove his/her existence, or the intervention is to guide the destiny of humankind.

Pathetic "god of the gaps" drivel.

He is going to do nothing to stop the pending die-off which has already started but people are ignoring it and will ignore it until too late.
There is no god. There is science however.

At the moment, we are overdue for a global pandemic.

Untrue. Pandemics don't happen on a schedule.

Is God delaying it by subtle interventions that prevent a calamitous spread?

As "god" is a pathetic human fantasy, no.

The slow thinning is cell phone radiation degrading immune systems, increasing infertility and leading to a lower life expectancy.

Bollocks. In most countries, excluding places like the USA, life expectancy is increasing.

telling others that cell phones are quite safe and that those who claim otherwise are nutters.

You mean reality?

The strongest will survive. The smartest (those who realize the dangers) will also survive.

Pathetic "alpha" fantasies are popular with the weal, powerless and desperate.

I said God told me that the overpopulation would be solved with a massive die-off.

Your "god", like all the others, doesn't actually exist. Have you considered seeking medical help for your delusions?

I am somewhat precognitive and clairprescient

No, you're not. These are more fantasies.

When the cell tower was put next door and I (and others) got sick,

Before it was activated?

It has the added factor of increasing mutation in pathogens because it DOES cause DNA breaks via increased ion channel stress and reactive oxygen species. Scientifically proven.

Bollocks and lies.

And the world is in denial. Helped on by the "experts" in the industry.

People who, unlike you, actually understand science.

When the truth comes out, science and technology will be dealt a serious blow - and people will look to things more spiritual to guide their lives.

Ah more of the "we'll show those smart people" fantasies.

How's that for a prediction.

It's the usual childish fantasising of insignificant people trying to inflate their egos.

 

[Lukraak_Sisser]

Predictions are not an exact science - in fact not a science at all. You may not accept my "story", but when the world is in serious turmoil and people are in despair, they might just give it some credence. The point is that God wants major social and spiritual change - with or without a "story" behind it.

So far what God has told me is taking place - and if he exists and if he spoke to me then we are only in the beginning of global chaos. It is hard to imagine it getting much worse, but it would seem that is God's plan.

I look at all the events in my life and they seem to have happened for a reason. There is a clear trail of "lessons". I assume those lessons will not be wasted my dying in the next few weeks or even years.

Of course, if this were true, it begs the question why god is so abysmally BAD at designing a disease?
I mean, if we put our minds to it (but no human has been shown to be that monstrous) we could create a disease that wipes out 80% of humanity.
Make its carriers non symptomatic transmitters for 1+ year or so after which it kills in a day or so.
And that is with the limitations of normal genetics.
A god could create that and let it rip.
Or just infect everyone at once.

But no, a disease with clear symptoms spread in a way that is possible to stop and most likely will have a vaccin within a year or so.
Yes, a lot of people will die and sure, there will be an economic impact, but your doom predictions seem to be wrong already. In Asia and Europe the spread seems contained and if the US were to get it's act together it could stop it too.

 

[bruto]

5G towers give me the willies too. It seems that they on on most of the churches and apartment buildings where I live. Seems that a lot of people I have talked have never seen them despite they're in your face obsequiousness. There might be some kind of subliminal block being broadcast from them to make them invisible to most.

Or maybe people don't pay attention because there's no reason to pay attention. If the towers do not cause anything but better phone service, why should they notice them? Do you notice the TV antennas or satellite dishes on people's houses? Count the high voltage transformers on the power lines?

 

[EHocking]

Or maybe people don't pay attention because there's no reason to pay attention. If the towers do not cause anything but better phone service, why should they notice them? Do you notice the TV antennas or satellite dishes on people's houses? Count the high voltage transformers on the power lines?

You will receive more RF radiation from your phone than a tower.
It pays to be closer to a tower since, when you are further away your phone ramps up in power in order to deal with the weaker signal.
So if you are closer to a tower the RF radiation from your phone will be much less.

 

[PartSkeptic]

You will receive more RF radiation from your phone than a tower.
It pays to be closer to a tower since, when you are further away your phone ramps up in power in order to deal with the weaker signal.
So if you are closer to a tower the RF radiation from your phone will be much less.

You simply repeating the propaganda and fake news encouraged by the Telco industry. Propaganda takes a true statement, like cell-phones decreasing their power when close to a tower, and then jumps to a false conclusion.

I have been through an analysis that shows how false your statement is. Try doing some science and using ALL the facts plus logic and reason. I also purchased an expensive meter from Germany to measure cell radiation and have taken various readings.

The bottom line is you are so wrong.

But God also does not want people to catch on, so he will encourage such false statements until it is too late. One of the things God wants is to discredit the "science" used by powerful industries and politicians for their own greedy motives. So keep on doing God's work.

 

[PartSkeptic]

Of course, if this were true, it begs the question why god is so abysmally BAD at designing a disease?
I mean, if we put our minds to it (but no human has been shown to be that monstrous) we could create a disease that wipes out 80% of humanity.
Make its carriers non symptomatic transmitters for 1+ year or so after which it kills in a day or so.
And that is with the limitations of normal genetics.
A god could create that and let it rip.
Or just infect everyone at once.

But no, a disease with clear symptoms spread in a way that is possible to stop and most likely will have a vaccin within a year or so.
Yes, a lot of people will die and sure, there will be an economic impact, but your doom predictions seem to be wrong already. In Asia and Europe the spread seems contained and if the US were to get it's act together it could stop it too.

It seems that God is a little more intelligent than you. God has an agenda which is simple to state but takes a very clever implementation to achieve.

The agenda is: a) Decrease the world population b) Change society to recognize the wrong direction and become more spiritual.

Your simple solution would achieve the first part, and there are elements of it in Covid-19. But it would not change society. A few years ago I figured that in order to achieve a die-off the pathogen would have to spread widely and silently before activating. I had to use logic and guesswork because I was not given details. I did think that my experiences would give me some clues.

I suffered the long-term effects of systemic histoplasmosis (bat fungus in my blood stream) and my late wife died from the same thing. So I thought there might be a combination of fungus and virus that would spread.

But my experiences did not stop. When I suffered from a cell tower next to us and I learned from research just how slow and silent the damage is, I then thought that the die-off would be slow using degraded immune systems and the usual diseases like cancer, heart attack and others.

However, that would be too slow and there is no "message", so God is using a combination of disasters to communicate to the world that it must change. The corona virus is designed to have a number of clever effects.

It is a stealth virus in a number of ways, and so can spread fear and panic. Watch the documentary "Pandemic" which came out on Netflix on November 2019. It has a long incubation period and can spread in asymptomatic people. The US now suspects that people had died earlier than previously thought. Western governments miscalculated and were too sure that their advanced science would be able to deal with any sort of outbreak.

SARS, MERS and Ebola were intended to add to the sense of false security. The Great CDC and the WHO have had their "science" and their "scientists" discredited. The mask controversy also had a double achievement. It showed how governments and scientists lie and cannot be trusted, and it also allowed a wider spread of the virus.

The virus spread to the rich and powerful nations in a way that could not have been worse if planned. Actually it was planned - by God. The industrial hub of Italy, then Spain, the UK and the USA. China had shut itself down.

The timing was also designed to catch the world at a bad time economically. It has wreaked havoc with economies in ways that are still to be seen and felt. The world was beginning to slow down. The 2008 toxic debt had not been cleared and interest rates are at an all time low. The oil crisis then hits with nations unable to agree to cuts. Some nations (Venezuela and Nigeria for example) are going to see massive health problems due to collapsing economies.

The virus was also designed with another message - decreasing the population by targeting the old and the infirm. If an agency was to design a population decrease virus, that would be one of the key design criteria.

People are going to change their habits. Less spending and less waste. It has been demonstrated that climate change is possible if the short-term pain is accepted. More emphasis on charity. The financial inequality will decrease. Governments and secular institution are going to be seen as less powerful. People will turn to religion for answers.

And some may say God is punishing the world for it's greed and destruction of the planet. They may be right. Some children think their parents are hateful and nasty when they get punished. Some people think the same of God who is acting for the long term good of mankind.

 

[EHocking]

You simply repeating the propaganda and fake news encouraged by the Telco industry. Propaganda takes a true statement, like cell-phones decreasing their power when close to a tower, and then jumps to a false conclusion.

I have been through an analysis that shows how false your statement is. Try doing some science and using ALL the facts plus logic and reason. I also purchased an expensive meter from Germany to measure cell radiation and have taken various readings.

The bottom line is you are so wrong.

But God also does not want people to catch on, so he will encourage such false statements until it is too late. One of the things God wants is to discredit the "science" used by powerful industries and politicians for their own greedy motives. So keep on doing God's work.

Show me the science.

 

[Pixel42]

But God also does not want people to catch on, so he will encourage such false statements until it is too late. One of the things God wants is to discredit the "science" used by powerful industries and politicians for their own greedy motives. So keep on doing God's work.

How exactly does god "encourage" such statements? Be specific. What precisely is he doing that makes EHocking more likely to "do God's work" by making such statements?

 

[Pixel42]

Just picking one of the more ludicrous statements out of that screed:

The virus was also designed with another message - decreasing the population by targeting the old and the infirm. If an agency was to design a population decrease virus, that would be one of the key design criteria.

If a virus was deliberately engineered to decrease the population it would target the young and healthy before they reproduce. The most likely to be dead soon anyway, and unlikely to add to the population in the meantime, would be the last group to be targeted.

This is what happens when you make the vaguest of vague predictions, wait to see what actually happens, and then desperately try to retrofit it to match the prediction.

 

[turingtest]

It seems that God is a little more intelligent than you. God has an agenda which is simple to state but takes a very clever implementation to achieve.

The agenda is: a) Decrease the world population b) Change society to recognize the wrong direction and become more spiritual.

Your simple solution would achieve the first part, and there are elements of it in Covid-19. But it would not change society. A few years ago I figured that in order to achieve a die-off the pathogen would have to spread widely and silently before activating. I had to use logic and guesswork because I was not given details. I did think that my experiences would give me some clues.

I suffered the long-term effects of systemic histoplasmosis (bat fungus in my blood stream) and my late wife died from the same thing. So I thought there might be a combination of fungus and virus that would spread.

But my experiences did not stop. When I suffered from a cell tower next to us and I learned from research just how slow and silent the damage is, I then thought that the die-off would be slow using degraded immune systems and the usual diseases like cancer, heart attack and others.

However, that would be too slow and there is no "message", so God is using a combination of disasters to communicate to the world that it must change. The corona virus is designed to have a number of clever effects.

It is a stealth virus in a number of ways, and so can spread fear and panic. Watch the documentary "Pandemic" which came out on Netflix on November 2019. It has a long incubation period and can spread in asymptomatic people. The US now suspects that people had died earlier than previously thought. Western governments miscalculated and were too sure that their advanced science would be able to deal with any sort of outbreak.

SARS, MERS and Ebola were intended to add to the sense of false security. The Great CDC and the WHO have had their "science" and their "scientists" discredited. The mask controversy also had a double achievement. It showed how governments and scientists lie and cannot be trusted, and it also allowed a wider spread of the virus.

The virus spread to the rich and powerful nations in a way that could not have been worse if planned. Actually it was planned - by God. The industrial hub of Italy, then Spain, the UK and the USA. China had shut itself down.

The timing was also designed to catch the world at a bad time economically. It has wreaked havoc with economies in ways that are still to be seen and felt. The world was beginning to slow down. The 2008 toxic debt had not been cleared and interest rates are at an all time low. The oil crisis then hits with nations unable to agree to cuts. Some nations (Venezuela and Nigeria for example) are going to see massive health problems due to collapsing economies.

The virus was also designed with another message - decreasing the population by targeting the old and the infirm. If an agency was to design a population decrease virus, that would be one of the key design criteria.

People are going to change their habits. Less spending and less waste. It has been demonstrated that climate change is possible if the short-term pain is accepted. More emphasis on charity. The financial inequality will decrease. Governments and secular institution are going to be seen as less powerful. People will turn to religion for answers.

And some may say God is punishing the world for it's greed and destruction of the planet. They may be right. Some children think their parents are hateful and nasty when they get punished. Some people think the same of God who is acting for the long term good of mankind.

The age-old interchangeability in terms, reading into a god's mind what is really only in (and on) your own. (Not to mention the requisite definition of possible outcomes of an event as always aims of an agency)

 

[Cosmic Yak]

SARS, MERS and Ebola were intended to add to the sense of false security. The Great CDC and the WHO have had their "science" and their "scientists" discredited. The mask controversy also had a double achievement. It showed how governments and scientists lie and cannot be trusted, and it also allowed a wider spread of the virus.

I have been through an analysis that shows how false your statement is. Try doing some science and using ALL the facts plus logic and reason. I also purchased an expensive meter from Germany to measure cell radiation and have taken various readings.

Was this expensive meter you bought designed, built and used by scientists?
Funny how apparently science can't be trusted until it suits your purposes, at which point it can.
Your entire narrative is a mass of contradictions, revealing just how much of it is simply self-aggrandisement backed up by confirmation bias.

 

[Pixel42]

Ghost hunters buy expensive EMR meters too.

Cargo cult science at its finest.

 

[bruto]

If there were a god worth its salt and if such a god did not want the truth known, you would not be able to buy a meter that actually works. If such a god did exist and you'd somehow slipped through the cracks you'd be ill advised to broadcast it here.

 

[varwoche]

Like trying to pin down jello (or jelly, take your pick).

Predicting that things will get worse is absurdly vague. If things get worse, I will assign precisely zero weight to the notion you have predictive abilities.

One thing worse than being unhinged from reality: being unhinged from reality and being lazy. Sharpen your pencil or something.

"various readings" ... wtf.

 

[PartSkeptic]

Show me the science.

So easy to make fake statements, then put your feet up and say show me the science. I will give you a hint.

Look at the time slot given to each cell phone. Check the peak power. Work out the duration of exposure for one call based on a average number of minutes per call. Remember the phone broadcasts away from the body. Estimate a typical number of calls per day. Calculate the energy absorbed by the whole body per day.

Then look at a tower. How many antennae are on a typical tower. Each antennae works full time handling a number of cell phones. What is the radiated power for a 20 meter tower with non-directional antennae 10 meters away from the tower. Then calculate the energy absorbed by the body of a person who works from home for each 24 hour period.

Compare the two.

Now take into account the reflections and recombinations of waves as they bounce around the house giving standing waves and short peak energies in the body.

Or you could do an experiment. Put a person in the house next to the tower and observe the health problems. Using people for experiments is supposed to be illegal, yet that is what is being done.

Check the wavelengths for 3G and 4G and check the dimensions of a person's head. Then check the penetration. How does that compare with a rats head. Do you think one can extrapolate from rats to people?