The Trump Presidency: Part 20

[ChristianProgressive]

We do NOT need a deep state. Someone's stalinist side is showing.

Someone's criminal enabling is showing. Nations with a strong administrative state like Brittain do not have corruption like this, not for long at any rate.

 

[ChristianProgressive]

Dear Leader is raging that he is cutting money to the Post Office to make them charge internet companies (Amazon?) more for package delivery.

He's claiming that he's against mail ballots because everybody cheats and they're all fraudulent.

Now he's touting chloroquine and praising the legislator who claims it cured her.

If I throw a brick through my TV, is there some government program that will reimburse me?

No, but if you could manage to throw it upside his orange head, there are millions of Americans who would cheer you.

 

[Cain]

The Corona Bailout funds need to be overseen, by a trusted source, of which the trump Presidency is NOT.

I fear that the money will just go to himself and his cronies..

You trust unelected officials? President Trump has the backing of the American people; in 2016 he came close to getting the most votes.

 

[newyorkguy]

...It's his latest excuse to fire the guy in order to put a loyalist in that will be sure to "overlook" funds distributed by the recent Covid-19 spending bills.

Nice. Now Trump steals from the sick and needy. Unbelievable.

 

[SezMe]

US operatives have been staking out tarmacs in France and Germany with wads of cash and buying shipments out from under their governments.

[Citation needed]

 

[Stacyhs]

You trust unelected officials? President Trump has the backing of the American people; in 2016 he came close to getting the most votes.

And he had the most bigly inauguration crowd in history!

 

[Norman Alexander]

I wonder... does the secret service purposely leave the gates to the white house grounds open, on the hope that Trump might wander out into traffic and get run over?

That's why there is a fence around Mar-a-Lago. To keep the massive tangerine twit in.

 

[Norman Alexander]

They claim that the President and VP are being tested regularly, and that people with access to them are also being tested. It still would make sense to keep them apart.

They need to be six feet apart. A suggestion is to make that six feet under for Trump.

 

[Stacyhs]

That's why there is a fence around Mar-a-Lago. To keep the massive tangerine twit in.

If only we could contain him there.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

"We're the federal government, we're not supposed to be standing on street corners testing . . . You should have said ‘Congratulations, great job', instead of being so horrid in the way you ask a question.”

Seriously? Then what are you for Mr. Wartime president?

What a leader!

“Horrid?”

 

[Safe-Keeper]

Nice. Now Trump steals from the sick and needy. Unbelievable.

You know, I always feared that Trump would have a major crisis land in his lap, but I thought he would just be incompetent. What he's doing now is just horrid (yes, like those evil reporters with their (((journalism))).

 

[ChristianProgressive]

[Citation needed]

I already gave that citiation.

 

[TragicMonkey]

“Horrid?”

Perhaps he's a Victorian era English schoolgirl?

 

[AlaskaBushPilot]

It has to be infuriating, suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome.

When you hate so much, it really clouds your judgement.

You can even disagree with him then, and be reasonable about it.

 

[Aridas]

Trump, by contrast, saw something that he heard in the media about some miracle cure, latched onto it, and made it all about himself. I'm sure that when it turns out that it isn't a miracle cure, he will deny he ever said it was.

While that's likely the main driver (That and Guiliani and a few others close to him), it's probably best not to ignore that, at last check, Trump has a personal financial interest in play, per the NYT. Apparently, he owns stock in a company that makes the drug. While it is possible that he doesn't even know that... this is a guy with a long, long history of stiffing the little guys for relatively small amounts of money. It would be entirely in character for him to be playing it up for sake of making a few bucks.

I saw a question on Quora one time that was like, "Why do people thing that Trump supporters are stupid." The answer went through a lot of the implications of being a Trump supporter and concluded with something like, "...We consider them stupid because the alternative is a lot less flattering."

You're thinking of this, perhaps? I didn't see it on Quora, though I could have missed it. The top answer on Quora is pretty long, too, and has a similar thrust, though.

Oh, there's just so much corruption in mail in voting according to the Idiot in Chief. It's worked here for a long time and no accusations of corruption.

To be fair about this - voting by mail is pretty much the most vulnerable to election-tipping fraud, as a general rule, though the argument can be made that unverifiable digital voting is potentially worse, given the complete lack of verifiable physical records. That doesn't mean that there's much actual fraud that happens.

Nice. Now Trump steals from the sick and needy. Unbelievable.

Conmen tend to go after the most vulnerable. This isn't new in general or for Trump.

 

[Pixel42]

You are wrong. The "deep" state is comprised of non-partisan government employees that keep the machinery of government running.

In the UK we call it The Civil Service.

Watch any episode of Yes Minister to see how it works.

 

[The Don]

On 17 March President Trump promised that every American would get a cheque in 2 weeks. Is this another failed "2 week promise" ?

 

[Stacyhs]

To be fair about this -

voting by mail is pretty much the most vulnerable to election-tipping fraud, as a general rule

, though the argument can be made that unverifiable digital voting is potentially worse, given the complete lack of verifiable physical records. That doesn't mean that there's much actual fraud that happens.

Yet there seems to be little vote fraud involved with voting by mail.

Election experts say Trump is partially correct, that there is slightly more fraud in mail-voting than in-person voting. But they caution that both can be done safely and securely, and that election fraud is extremely rare in all instances.

"Where there is fraud in the system, it really seems to be in mail balloting," said Lonna Atkeson, a political science professor at the University of New Mexico. "There's some, there's not a lot. I think there's a little bit."

But experts, especially those with experience in the handful of states that vote completely by mail, say states can implement things like ballot tracking, as well as pre-paid postage and ballot drop boxes which eliminate the need for voters to hand over their ballots to a third party.

https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...raud-as-rampant-as-president-trump-says-it-is

 

[Polaris]

Dear Leader is raging that he is cutting money to the Post Office to make them charge internet companies (Amazon?) more for package delivery.

He's claiming that he's against mail ballots because everybody cheats and they're all fraudulent.

Now he's touting chloroquine and praising the legislator who claims it cured her.

If I throw a brick through my TV, is there some government program that will reimburse me?

Do you make enough money per hour that you can fart the sum needed to buy a dozen replacement TVs? Then yeah, the government will pay for your TV. "Congress" is the program you're looking for.

 

[Aridas]

Yet there seems to be little vote fraud involved with voting by mail.

To poke at the next sentence... "That doesn't mean that there's much actual fraud that happens." Yes, though, as far as we can tell, voter fraud is remarkably rare, overall, and the increased turnout associated with allowing everyone the chance to vote easily by mail fairly certainly increases electoral integrity by multiple orders of magnitude more than fraud will reduce electoral integrity, provided that serious, but reasonable, measures are taken to ensure safety and security.