The Trump Presidency: Part 20

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Everywhere else in the world is taking other measures to deal with COVID-19. But in the USA, it's ...get mor gunz! Huge rush on gun sales right now.

Please, somebody. Tell me there's a cogent reason why this is necessary! Donny? Are you making the other kids scared again?

My wife suggested they get some really teeny tiny bullets to shoot the virus.
My governor just issued an executive order to suspend late fees for concealed carry permits.

No shelter order, eviction/foreclosure suspension, or deployment of state resources.

I'm sure that will stop this virus cold.
 
It's easier for him to make a fortune on the side by manipulating the stock market.

I'd be surprised if the Grifter-in-Chief doesn't already have this operation ramped up.
 
The situation is further complicated by the fact American banks won't touch our 'sitting president.'
For Deutsche Bank, the issue is further complicated because the loans, which were negotiated between 2012 and 2015, include a personal guarantee from Trump. That would put the German lender in the position of potentially having to collect from a sitting President in case of a default, Bloomberg has reported.

Deutsche Bank’s leaders in late 2016 were so concerned about the potential public relations impact if the Trump Organization were to default that they discussed extending repayment dates until after the end of a potential second term in 2025, Bloomberg has reported. They ultimately decided against the idea and just chose not to engage in any new business with Trump while he’s in office. Link
 
But through all this, with our isolating and distancing and constant worry, etc, nobody has even hinted that we need more guns for any reason at all. For a start, they're (usually) not edible. So what IS it with the USA that this is the FIRST option? Something in the water??



It's a bit of a self-supporting cycle in the US. Were I living there, I'd probably be buying a gun right about now, myself.

There was an old saying in the "Survivalist" movement of the 80s, that eventually evolved into today's "Prepper" movement: "You stockpile gold, and I'll stockpile guns, and after the **** hits the fan, we'll see who has both the gold and the guns!" That is, some gun nuts were quite openly planning on robbing their neighbors if and when things went south. And that attitude still exists, I've seen new, corona-themed memes about it since this whole mess started.

If you were living next to someone like that, wouldn't you want a gun?

Be glad you're not Canadian right now, because our entire country is next door to people like that.
 
It's easier for him to make a fortune on the side by manipulating the stock market.

I'd be surprised if the Grifter-in-Chief doesn't already have this operation ramped up.

I honestly doubt he has sufficient business savvy to do that, though some of the grifters that surround and steer him probably do.
 
Trump the Billionaire needs to beg his bank to let him delay payments:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ion-asks-deutsche-bank-for-loan-payment-delay

Trump is losing a ton of money from the shutdown, and can't sell his Washington Hotel as planned to plug the hole.

And, of course, he has personally guaranteed the loan, so another Trump Org Bankruptcy won't work this time.

Oh my. Hasn't he seen what happens to those holding the bag in Trump business?
 
I honestly doubt he has sufficient business savvy to do that, though some of the grifters that surround and steer him probably do.

I can't be bothered to dig up quotes now, but Trump has said he's "not a stock market guy". The reason is probably simple: if you buy Procter & Gamble for $50 million today, it's worth about that +/- 2% tomorrow, and everyone knows that - you can't call it a $200 million property for collateral.
 
I was more marveling at Kushner's statement itself, personally...

Kushner has always aggravated me. This is typical:
“The federal stockpile (is) supposed to be our stockpile,” Kushner said Thursday evening. “It’s not supposed to be state stockpiles that they then use.” Kushner struck a tone-deaf note by saying that some governors are “better managers than others,” even though he himself has no experience in managing complex supply chains. Link

This whackjob -- to borrow a term from Robert De Niro! -- has a major role in battling the coronavirus pandemic? Seriously? Below are quotes from an opinion piece by columnist Michelle Goldberg that appeared in the New York Times:
Kushner, [author Andrea] Bernstein told me, “really sees himself as a disrupter.” Again and again, she said, people who’d dealt with Kushner told her that whatever he did, he “believed he could do it better than anybody else, and he had supreme confidence in his own abilities and his own judgment even when he didn’t know what he was talking about.”

It’s hard to overstate the extent to which this confidence is unearned. Kushner was a reportedly mediocre student whose billionaire father appears to have bought him a place at Harvard. Taking over the family real estate company after his father was sent to prison, Kushner paid $1.8 billion — a record, at the time — for a Manhattan skyscraper at the very top of the real estate market in 2007. The debt from that project became a crushing burden for the family business. Link

Only the best!
Can some of our Trumpers please step up and defend/explain Kushner? A lousy job, yes, but someone has to do it.
 

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The amazing thing is, in trying to slam the states, and tell them they need to do it all themselves, which is of course the standard response the Trump administration is giving to every question during this crisis, he's accidentally discovered why it is the Federal Government should be the ones doing all the coordinating of supply production and distribution.

Prioritizing the supplying of the various States based on their actual needs, and not just their ability to out-bid each other, is the whole point of having a Federal government. What happens to Iowa when California and New York finally decide, "**** it, we're rich, we'll just pay 100 times the going rate to buy every mask and ventilator in the country!"?

It's Blind Squirrel and Nut Time.

As it is, I'm hearing that states are buying at, for the moment, up to 15 times the normal costs for PPE. That sure sounds like price gouging to me - price gouging that's being allowed and aided by Trump's Administration, by the look of it.

If anyone but Trump had been in office for the past three years I think we would have been better off. A mediocre president would do some damage by neglect, sure. But Trump almost seems to be actively working to destroy the country.

I know he isn't smart enough for it to be intentional, but the difference is negligible.

Don't look down on him too much. It doesn't take someone smart to realize that actively working to divide the country for personal gain as a strategy is harmful. It doesn't take a smart person to realize that specifically choosing people to lead government agencies BECAUSE those people were seeking to destroy said agency is destructive. It doesn't take a smart person to understand that working hard to break the judicial branch and nullify the legislative branch is destructive.

Don't think you are alone in this. Here in Oz we have a wishy-washy PM who has committed our souls to his god in order to get through this thing. Gee, thanks. :rolleyes: As though that would make up for the bumbles, slip-ups, shortages and delays his government have perpetrated. But in the last little while they have been getting better. Hard lessons learned, I guess.

But through all this, with our isolating and distancing and constant worry, etc, nobody has even hinted that we need more guns for any reason at all. For a start, they're (usually) not edible. So what IS it with the USA that this is the FIRST option? Something in the water??

The really short version is that the NRA's done far too good a job when it comes to shaping the conversations about guns. And, well...

It's a bit of a self-supporting cycle in the US. Were I living there, I'd probably be buying a gun right about now, myself.

There was an old saying in the "Survivalist" movement of the 80s, that eventually evolved into today's "Prepper" movement: "You stockpile gold, and I'll stockpile guns, and after the **** hits the fan, we'll see who has both the gold and the guns!" That is, some gun nuts were quite openly planning on robbing their neighbors if and when things went south. And that attitude still exists, I've seen new, corona-themed memes about it since this whole mess started.

If you were living next to someone like that, wouldn't you want a gun?

This is entirely fair and related to that. There's a bit too much association between power and being in relative control of the situation (or at least just not having control completely removed from you by a random nut) and guns because of how the cultural landscape has been shaped.
 
This whackjob -- to borrow a term from Robert De Niro! -- has a major role in battling the coronavirus pandemic?

A major role in disrupting the response, rather. This is the guy who was telling Trump from the start that COVID was media hype, for example, and who was pointedly holding up getting ventilators made to the point where GM/Ventec pretty much gave up on working with the federal government in advance - which will probably end up driving up costs to taxpayers significantly.

Only the best!
Can some of our Trumpers please step up and defend/explain Kushner? A lousy job, yes, but someone has to do it.

Mmm. Honestly, I don't count his father being a criminal to be a negative mark on him - directly, at least. It is, however, a huge warning sign to be wary of what he learned growing up.

As for that excerpt, I read it and, well... based on that, I get the feeling that Trump would look at Kushner and pretty much see himself there, which means that he'll either trust Kushner or act like he trusts Kushner rather too hard to cover up the insecurities that would be exposed were he not to trust Kushner, because Trump is inseparable from his pathological narcissism.
 
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As the world battles the coronavirus crisis, researchers are warning of a potentially active Atlantic Ocean hurricane season, which kicks off June 1 through the end of November. For the 37th year in a row, Colorado State University (CSU) issued its hurricane season forecast Thursday — and the numbers appear significantly above normal. Link

The pandemic is going to do major damage to the world economy and we may be in for a bad hurricane season, possibly exacerbated by climate change.

Hate to sound so pessimistic, but it's all starting to happen, just like scientists warned. With a malignant wannabe dictator as U.S. president.

Do you believe in karma? :(
 
Kushner has always aggravated me. This is typical:


This whackjob -- to borrow a term from Robert De Niro! -- has a major role in battling the coronavirus pandemic? Seriously? Below are quotes from an opinion piece by columnist Michelle Goldberg that appeared in the New York Times:


Only the best!
Can some of our Trumpers please step up and defend/explain Kushner? A lousy job, yes, but someone has to do it.
Seriously folks, has there ever been a face more begging to be punched?
 
Seriously folks, has there ever been a face more begging to be punched?

You say that when Trump's face consistently trumps Kushner's face? As does McConnell's face, incidentally, much as with Mitch, you might have to do it quick, before he does what his kind does.
 
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It's not that Kushner's dad served time, it was the crime for which he was convicted. This is from a Chris Christie interview. Back then Christie was the federal prosecutor who tried Jared's dad.
And so what am I supposed to do as a prosecutor? I mean If a guy hires a prostitute to seduce his brother-in-law, and videotapes it, and then sends the videotape to his sister to attempt to intimidate her from testifying before a grand jury, do I really need any more justification than that? I mean it's one of the most loathsome, disgusting crimes that I prosecuted when I was US attorney. And I was a US attorney in New Jersey, Margaret, so we had some loathsome and disgusting crime going on there." Link

As for serving Jared a knuckle sandwich, that seems to be a constant meme.
 

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Seriously folks, has there ever been a face more begging to be punched?

Certainly not: slapped, not punched. Only a slap will deliver the satisfying sound, the lingering sting, the reddened impact mark. There is satisfaction to the deliverer and shame to the receiver in slapping that you just don't get with punching. A punch is something you do to an equal who is a threat. A slap is something you do to the despicable as punishment. It's not about hatred, it's about contempt.
 
Kushner has always aggravated me. This is typical:


This whackjob -- to borrow a term from Robert De Niro! -- has a major role in battling the coronavirus pandemic? Seriously? Below are quotes from an opinion piece by columnist Michelle Goldberg that appeared in the New York Times:


Only the best!
Can some of our Trumpers please step up and defend/explain Kushner? A lousy job, yes, but someone has to do it.


I’m crap at faces but wouldn’t he look just like his wife if he had long blonde hair?
 
Certainly not: slapped, not punched. Only a slap will deliver the satisfying sound, the lingering sting, the reddened impact mark. There is satisfaction to the deliverer and shame to the receiver in slapping that you just don't get with punching. A punch is something you do to an equal who is a threat. A slap is something you do to the despicable as punishment. It's not about hatred, it's about contempt.



Plus, if we limit it to slaps, we can get more in before he keels over, so more people will get the satisfaction of slapping this idiot.
 
Plus, if we limit it to slaps, we can get more in before he keels over, so more people will get the satisfaction of slapping this idiot.

No way. One slap hard enough to lift him off his feet and spin him around twice, and he's done. The kind of slap that leaves the slappist's hand numb for hours. It would be worth it!
 
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