2019-nCoV / Corona virus Pt 2

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Meadmaker said:
My sister said that deep breathing was the key. She recommended working out at the gym.

I didn't take her advice.
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The decrease of lung capacity with age has been hypothesized as a factor in why older people are more likely to become seriously ill than younger people. I don't know what the status of this idea is, but I am continuing to work out. It can't hurt.
 
I have to say, watching Trump and his team speak right now makes me feel much better about the authority and speed with my country dealt with this. Doesn't happen often that the government of Guatemala gets it right.
 
TellyKNeasuss said:
The decrease of lung capacity with age has been hypothesized as a factor in why older people are more likely to become seriously ill than younger people. I don't know what the status of this idea is, but I am continuing to work out. It can't hurt.
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Me too, but not at the gym. I stopped going a few day before it was closed by the governor.

Exercise also lowers blood sugar, which might be safer for me.
 
I get why some people don’t believe it’s a serious threat, at least from a U.S. point of view. I’m not in one of the heaviest-hit areas (as far as we can tell). Online headlines always feature CV-19 prominently, but when you see all the coverage and then something like “50 dead”, it’s kind of natural to think, “Wait, tons more people kick off every day for lots of causes. We’re killing the economy for this?” Also, even if you get the idea of exponential growth, you wonder, “well, shouldn’t it have blown up by now?”

The fact that actions taken at the state and local levels, and belatedly at the federal level, will indeed flatten the curve (with effectiveness TBD), will reinforce this. ”That wasn’t nearly as bad as they said!” So such mitigations will be less effective next time as people blow them off.

I get that this is a really serious problem, but I also get why some people (even those who don’t get their opinions from Fox and the Thumbsucker-in-Chief) don’t believe it. At some gut level, I don’t fully believe it, even though the conscious bits of my brain understand it.
 
sts60 said:
I get why some people don’t believe it’s a serious threat, at least from a U.S. point of view. I’m not in one of the heaviest-hit areas (as far as we can tell). Online headlines always feature CV-19 prominently, but when you see all the coverage and then something like “50 dead”, it’s kind of natural to think, “Wait, tons more people kick off every day for lots of causes. We’re killing the economy for this?” Also, even if you get the idea of exponential growth, you wonder, “well, shouldn’t it have blown up by now?”

The fact that actions taken at the state and local levels, and belatedly at the federal level, will indeed flatten the curve (with effectiveness TBD), will reinforce this. ”That wasn’t nearly as bad as they said!” So such mitigations will be less effective next time as people blow them off.

I get that this is a really serious problem, but I also get why some people (even those who don’t get their opinions from Fox and the Thumbsucker-in-Chief) don’t believe it. At some gut level, I don’t fully believe it, even though the conscious bits of my brain understand it.
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Thing is, we can't maintain this sort of lockdown for long if we don't want the economy to collapse entirely, so obviously we'll step out of the shell soon enough, and covid-19 will just continue where it left off. It gives us time to prepare to deal with it but we'll have to deal with it sooner or later.
 
Belz... said:
Thing is, we can't maintain this sort of lockdown for long if we don't want the economy to collapse entirely, so obviously we'll step out of the shell soon enough, and covid-19 will just continue where it left off. It gives us time to prepare to deal with it but we'll have to deal with it sooner or later.
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Yeah. It's a trade-off between lives and the economy.
 
sts60 said:
I get why some people don’t believe it’s a serious threat, at least from a U.S. point of view. I’m not in one of the heaviest-hit areas (as far as we can tell). Online headlines always feature CV-19 prominently, but when you see all the coverage and then something like “50 dead”, it’s kind of natural to think, “Wait, tons more people kick off every day for lots of causes. We’re killing the economy for this?” Also, even if you get the idea of exponential growth, you wonder, “well, shouldn’t it have blown up by now?”
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I get it if these people are just reading/hearing numbers. But it's quite a bit harder to look at the graphs either the US ones [URL="https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/]here[/URL], or the world ones, and not see that it's on track to get very bad very quickly.
 
Meridian said:
I get it if these people are just reading/hearing numbers. But it's quite a bit harder to look at the graphs either the US ones [URL="https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/]here[/URL], or the world ones, and not see that it's on track to get very bad very quickly.
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link needs 2 b fixed
 
sts60 said:
I get why some people don’t believe it’s a serious threat, at least from a U.S. point of view. I’m not in one of the heaviest-hit areas (as far as we can tell). Online headlines always feature CV-19 prominently, but when you see all the coverage and then something like “50 dead”, it’s kind of natural to think, “Wait, tons more people kick off every day for lots of causes. We’re killing the economy for this?” Also, even if you get the idea of exponential growth, you wonder, “well, shouldn’t it have blown up by now?”

The fact that actions taken at the state and local levels, and belatedly at the federal level, will indeed flatten the curve (with effectiveness TBD), will reinforce this. ”That wasn’t nearly as bad as they said!” So such mitigations will be less effective next time as people blow them off.

I get that this is a really serious problem, but I also get why some people (even those who don’t get their opinions from Fox and the Thumbsucker-in-Chief) don’t believe it. At some gut level, I don’t fully believe it, even though the conscious bits of my brain understand it.
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What they don't get is that it's their entire health care system, too. Let it go unchecked and pretty soon you won't be able to get proper treatment for anything. Break a leg and they'll -maybe- have room for you in a tent in the parking lot. A nurse may come to look at it... tomorrow. Sorry, we're out of pain-killers.
 
Belz... said:
Thing is, we can't maintain this sort of lockdown for long if we don't want the economy to collapse entirely, so obviously we'll step out of the shell soon enough, and covid-19 will just continue where it left off. It gives us time to prepare to deal with it but we'll have to deal with it sooner or later.
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Perhaps the absolute worst-case scenario is one in which you first wreck the economy and then end up with nothing more than a delayed peak coinciding with flu season. If that’s the case you overload the healthcare system at the worst time possible as well.
 
I have enough lung capacity for 3,000 calories per day. I ought to be safe.

My exercise routine for this day- cut up 25# of cheap meat, make it in to excellent Italian sausage. Hmmm, exercise. Hmmm, quarantine..
 
Politics 101 at work- Find out which way the Medicos are sending the people. Get out in front and tell the people you are leading them to safety. And you thought Mid-terms was a scholastic thing.
 
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