The Trump Presidency: Part 20

[Distracted1]

I think we need to look at this with a little more objectivity. While Bogative or anyone else claiming the 2008 recession was in any way Obama's fault is ludicrous, I think we have to admit that what is happening to our economy right now is not Trump's 'fault' either. Even if Trump weren't POTUS, this virus' effect on the country/world would have affected the stock market and economy. While Trump may have contributed to it due to his poor handling of the crisis, we'd still be in an economic crisis. As much as I detest the Orange Turd and wish I could blame him everything, it simply isn't true.

Katrina wasn't Bush' fault either- but in a way it was.

The recent revelations regarding this hose bag in NC who was telling his donors that the **** was gonna get real on the same day Trump was playing it off as nothing certainly puts the ball in Trumps court WRT "fault".

Firing the very team of people whose expertise is the handling of a U.S. Pandemic is his fault- even if it was done by someone he put in place, and without his direct knowledge (perhaps a recrimination in itself)

And printing out autographed copies of "the largest Wall Street point gain in history!" For distribution is volunteering for the blame for the subsequent drops.

So, yeah. Trumps fault.

 

[pgwenthold]

Katrina wasn't Bush' fault either- but in a way it was.

The recent revelations regarding this hose bag in NC who was telling his donors that the **** was gonna get real on the same day Trump was playing it off as nothing certainly puts the ball in Trumps court WRT "fault".

Firing the very team of people whose expertise is the handling of a U.S. Pandemic is his fault- even if it was done by someone he put in place, and without his direct knowledge (perhaps a recrimination in itself)

And printing out autographed copies of "the largest Wall Street point gain in history!" For distribution is volunteering for the blame for the subsequent drops.

So, yeah. Trumps fault.

He went on tv to tell us the plan and the marker took a dive in response. FDR he is not.

 

[Bob001]

Trump almost killed Tom Hanks!

President Donald Trump was saved from mistakenly tweeting that Tom Hanks had died from the novel coronavirus after his diplomatic staff misunderstand reports about the actor being "discharged" from an Australian hospital, according to the newspaper The Courier-Mail.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-reportedly-almost-tweeted-tom-114500144.html

 

[Resume]

Trump almost killed Tom Hanks!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-reportedly-almost-tweeted-tom-114500144.html

He seems to "misunderstand" a lot of things.

 

[newyorkguy]

The Guardian news article about Thursday's press conference reported that it "started strangely and ended in an even weirder place." Here's the end as reported by Guardian:

Chanel Rion, who works for the pro-Trump One America News Network, and recently speculated wildly that the coronavirus might have been created in a lab in North Carolina, asked: “Do you consider the use of the term ‘Chinese food’ racist – because it’s food that originates in China or has Chinese roots?" Appreciating the gift, Trump replied: “No, I don’t think it’s racist at all.” Link

Now Trump was off and running:

“It amazes me when I read the Wall Street Journal, which is always so negative. It amazes me when I read – the New York Times is not even – I barely read it. You know, we don’t distribute it in the White House anymore, and the same thing with the Washington Post....Because you see, I know the truth. And people out there in the world, they really don’t know the truth. They don’t know what it is....[The media] is siding with China. They are doing things that they shouldn’t be doing. They’re siding with many others; China is the least of it.

A press conference about the Covid-19 pandemic, but predictably, Trump made it all about him, him, him.

 

[Stacyhs]

Katrina wasn't Bush' fault either- but in a way it was.

The recent revelations regarding this hose bag in NC who was telling his donors that the **** was gonna get real on the same day Trump was playing it off as nothing certainly puts the ball in Trumps court WRT "fault".

No, it doesn't.

Firing the very team of people whose expertise is the handling of a U.S. Pandemic is his fault- even if it was done by someone he put in place, and without his direct knowledge (perhaps a recrimination in itself)

True. But we were woefully unprepared for a pandemic regardless. This has been known since before the current crisis.

And printing out autographed copies of "the largest Wall Street point gain in history!" For distribution is volunteering for the blame for the subsequent drops.

So, yeah. Trumps fault.

That was a stupid move on Trump's part (no surprise there) but it had nothing to do with the current virus crisis.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

And printing out autographed copies of "the largest Wall Street point gain in history!" For distribution is volunteering for the blame for the subsequent drops.

So, yeah. Trumps fault.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Breaking story: GOP head of Senate Intellligence COmmitee may have profited off early inside knowledge of how bad the virus might get;

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/19/politics/richard-burr-coronavirus-comments/index.html

I don't know if any laws were violated, but this stinks on ice.

Congress is exempt from insider trading laws.

There's evidence the Trumps are also profiting on the crashing stock market.

‘Hanky-panky?’ Traders pocket ‘stunning’ profits after Trump’s comments on trade talks goose the stock market

In Vanity Fair’s deep dive into “the fantastically profitable mystery of the Trump chaos trades,” William Cohan takes a look at how some timely presidential pumping of the stock market made some futures traders billions of dollars.

One windfall, in particular, triggered Twitter TWTR, +9.68% buzz. On June 28, a trader, or group of traders, snatched up 420,000 September e-minis, which amounted to about 40% of the total trading volume, shortly before the closing bell. Trump the following weekend emerged from a meeting with President Xi to say the trade talks were “back on track.” The market cheered the announcement and stocks rallied enough to apparently turn that trade into a $1.8 billion profit.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

I think we need to look at this with a little more objectivity. While Bogative or anyone else claiming the 2008 recession was in any way Obama's fault is ludicrous, I think we have to admit that what is happening to our economy right now is not Trump's 'fault' either. Even if Trump weren't POTUS, this virus' effect on the country/world would have affected the stock market and economy. While Trump may have contributed to it due to his poor handling of the crisis, we'd still be in an economic crisis. As much as I detest the Orange Turd and wish I could blame him everything, it simply isn't true.

The pandemic is not his fault. His incompetence managing the crisis is and that added to the problem.

 

[dudalb]

The Burr story is gaining traction. Supposdely Trump is pissed off and wants Burr to resign. Not becuase Trump thinks that Burr did anything worng, but because it's a bad look for the GOP.

 

[Resume]

The Guardian news article about Thursday's press conference reported that it "started strangely and ended in an even weirder place." Here's the end as reported by Guardian:


Now Trump was off and running:


A press conference about the Covid-19 pandemic, but predictably, Trump made it all about him, him, him.

If you watched the Chanel Rion set-up hokum, you have to wonder how stupid some Trumps supporters are. I mean, it was so obviously staged, and so obviously stupid . . . Oh, right, I forgot.

By the way, though I love me some Mongolian Beef or Shrimp Kow, it ain't Chinese Food.

 

[Ladewig]

From what I read, I'd have to say that, rather than having inside info, he just used the info publicly available and suspected what was going to happen. That's not being immoral or crooked; it's being smart. Unless something else is uncovered, I'd give him the benefit of the doubt on this one.

Back in January, I had been seriously contemplating dropping a number of stocks. Even without a growing pandemic, there were experts talking about a bubble and a drop.

 

[thaiboxerken]

The Burr story is gaining traction. Supposdely Trump is pissed off and wants Burr to resign. Not becuase Trump thinks that Burr did anything worng, but because it's a bad look for the GOP.

And then there are other Republicans that did the same thing popping up in the media. I wonder how long until a Democrat is found to be selling off their stock prior to the covid crash.

 

[Aridas]

True, though it might be argued that Donnie's incompetence has made what would have been a bad situation worse.

Much worse, honestly. I'm certainly not blaming Trump for the coronavirus or it reaching us (much as OAN, one of his favorite propaganda outlets, has now actually claimed that Fauci is behind it). What's Trump's done is massive sabotage of our ability to handle the situation in pretty much every possible way, both before and during the spread of the virus. THAT is what deserves massive criticism.

That was a stupid move on Trump's part (no surprise there) but it had nothing to do with the current virus crisis.

Err... actually, yes, it most certainly does, given that it was just more of the same when it comes to his strategy for handling the crisis.

Congress is exempt from insider trading laws.

Unfortunately. Addressing that is actually part of Warren's anti-corruption plan, as I recall. Too bad that Warren's out of the race, but that doesn't mean that her plans can't still be pushed.

 

[Stacyhs]

The pandemic is not his fault. His incompetence managing the crisis is and that added to the problem.

I have no argument with that at all. He added to the problem but to say (not you) that the downturn in the stock market is his fault is just too simplistic.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

I have no argument with that at all. He added to the problem but to say (not you) that the downturn in the stock market is his fault is just too simplistic.

After the first circuit breaker, trading should have been suspended until the administration and Fed had time to present a plan for going forward.

 

[Cain]

The Chinese virus is responsible for our great stock market's plunge! Only Trump can fix it!! #WarTimePresident

 

[TofuFighter]

The Guardian news article about Thursday's press conference reported that it "started strangely and ended in an even weirder place." Here's the end as reported by Guardian:
Now Trump was off and running:
A press conference about the Covid-19 pandemic, but predictably, Trump made it all about him, him, him.

Interesting thing about that exchange... when the OANN reporter first started asking trump her question about the term 'chinese food' being racist (in order to use that as an equivalence with calling this the 'chinese virus'), trump's immediate reaction was defensive, interrupting her as he interpreted her question as an accusation, and you could see the exasperation on her face as she realised what had happened. It was brief, but clear.

 

[Aridas]

The Chinese virus is responsible for our great stock market's plunge! Only Trump can fix it!! #WarTimePresident

Mmm. If this is a War against COVID-19, Trump needs impeached, removed, and charged with High Treason for all his efforts to aid the enemy.

 

[TofuFighter]

Much worse, honestly. I'm certainly not blaming Trump for the coronavirus or it reaching us (much as OAN, one of his favorite propaganda outlets, has now actually claimed that Fauci is behind it). What's Trump's done is massive sabotage of our ability to handle the situation in pretty much every possible way, both before and during the spread of the virus. THAT is what deserves massive criticism.

In case anyone else was curious about this note - From Wikipedia:

Coronavirus outbreak conspiracy theories

In March 2020, during the coronavirus pandemic, the OANN chief White House correspondent Chanel Rion promoted a conspiracy theory that the virus originated in a North Carolina lab, citing information from a "citizen investigator and a monitored source amongst a certain set of the DC intelligence community" who was actually a Twitter conspiracy theorist. As she cited this individual during a televised report from the White House grounds, an image was displayed of actor Keir Dullea in the film 2001: A Space Odyssey. She also asserted that Dr. Anthony Fauci, who was the White House's leading expert on infectious diseases, had funded the creation of the coronavirus. Rion later claimed without evidence that other mainstream media outlets were parroting Chinese Communist Party propaganda.[74] During a press conference with Trump, she asked him whether it was "racist" to use the term "Chinese food" and continued:

"major left-wing news media — even in this room — have teamed up with Chinese Communist Party narratives and they’re claiming you’re racist for making these claims about 'Chinese virus.' Is it alarming that major media players, just to oppose you, are consistently siding with foreign state propaganda, Islamic radicals and Latin gangs and cartels? And they work right here at the White House with direct access to you and your team?"

Rion previously worked as a political cartoonist, and had among other things promoted Murder of Seth Rich conspiracy theories and written an anti-feminist children's book.Link

I'd like to find another report or see the video of when that point was raised by Rion at any presser.
Found some more info on that: LINK