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O'Reilly authors new Protocols...

hgc

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... of the Elders of Zion. So, who's surprised?

There's a very secret plan. And it's a plan that nobody's going to tell you, "Well, we want to diminish Christian philosophy in the U.S.A. because we want X, Y, and Z." They'll never ever say that. But I'm kind of surprised they went after Christmas because it's such an emotional issue.
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Secret plan. There's a start.

Now the reason this is happening is because of the ACLU and George Soros, Peter Lewis.
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Stir in a Jewish cabal.

Joseph Stalin, Adolf Hitler, Mao Zedong, Fidel Castro, all of them. That's the first step. Get the religion out of there, so that we can impose our big-government, progressive agenda.
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Add a generous measure of villians from the hall of fame. And what have you got?

At the risk of poisoning the well, I am curious to see what the usual O'Reilly defenders have got to say about this.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200511300007
 
O'REILLY: In every secular progressive country, they've wiped out religion ... Joseph Stalin, Adolf Hitler, Mao Zedong, Fidel Castro, all of them. That's the first step. Get the religion out of there, so that we can impose our big-government, progressive agenda.
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That trope again? I need to get myself a media career so I can explain to a wide audience that the reason totalitarian dictators have it in for organized religion is because ideologies do not tolerate rival ideologies. Loyalty to the Church detracts from loyalty to the Party, and if you're too busy worshipping Jesus or your ancestors or whomever, you're not worshipping your Führer/Great Helmsman/Beloved Leader. So the Party can either try to harness the Church to its wagon (like Franco, Milosevic and on occasion, Saddam Hussein), or the Church will have to go. The Nazis, incidentally, never tried to "wipe out religion"; they just came up with their own (essentially Christian monotheism with the Jewish bits taken out and a dollop of "Blood and Soil" neo-paganism thrown in). Adherents of this rather ill-defined faith had "Gottglaubichkeit" listed as their religion in IDs such as military paybooks. "Gottglaubichkeit" translates literally to "the condition of believing in God" (or "God-believing-ness"); thus, it is not atheism.
 
Y'know, I'm seriously ticked off that my fellow Jews have been running things for so long and I've yet to get a cut of the proceeds.

Hmm. The "Protocols" canard has been around for long enough, and we're having such a hard tie defeating it, perhaps we Jews should just give up and actually try to take over the world.
 
David Swidler said:
Y'know, I'm seriously ticked off that my fellow Jews have been running things for so long and I've yet to get a cut of the proceeds.

Hmm. The "Protocols" canard has been around for long enough, and we're having such a hard tie defeating it, perhaps we Jews should just give up and actually try to take over the world.
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You´re welcome to do so, as far as I am concerned. Can´t be worse than what we have now. And at least you´d put a lid on all those nazis.
 
David Swidler said:
Y'know, I'm seriously ticked off that my fellow Jews have been running things for so long and I've yet to get a cut of the proceeds.

Hmm. The "Protocols" canard has been around for long enough, and we're having such a hard tie defeating it, perhaps we Jews should just give up and actually try to take over the world.
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No, make it a movie, you have the rights. Either Mel Brooks or Spielberg would do though Spielberg is more bankable.

And the merchandising, boobala. I see a game, no, games. XBox, walkman, PC and maybe, get this, a stand alone Neopet deal. Instead of feeding some dumb animal you "feed the conspiracy". Watch it grow.

Have your girl call my girl.

Later.
 
Ed said:
No, make it a movie, you have the rights. Either Mel Brooks or Spielberg would do though Spielberg is more bankable.

And the merchandising, boobala. I see a game, no, games. XBox, walkman, PC and maybe, get this, a stand alone Neopet deal.
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Mel Brooks: "Protocols, The T-Shirt™! Protocols, The Coloring Book™! Protocols, The Lunchbox™! Protocols, The Breakfast Cereal™! Protocols, The Flame Thrower™! ...The kids love this one."
 
Perforatu said:
Mel Brooks: "Protocols, The T-Shirt™! Protocols, The Coloring Book™! Protocols, The Lunchbox™! Protocols, The Breakfast Cereal™! Protocols, The Flame Thrower™! ...The kids love this one."
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"It's PC to Wear PZ"
 
Hypocrite

It amuses me to no end that a man whose employer had to dish out a large undisclosed amount of money in settlement for his lewd and perverted behavior with a female co-worker is complaining about someone ruining the "sanctity" of Christmas!

How hypocritical can he be? This is a man whose inappropriate advances and suggestions to a young lady whom he intimidated were recorded on tape in her defense. This is a man who has promoted "family values" with a Conservative conscience on a television program. This is a man who drinks the Kool-Aid of Conservative agenda on a daily basis (including, presumably, the embracing of Christianity), yet this is the same man who pervertedly asked a female co-worker if she owned electric, rubber novelties.

I wonder how the Jews, the Atheists and the Agnostics all managed to turn him from his beloved Jesus?
 
Perforatu said:
Mel Brooks: "Protocols, The T-Shirt™! Protocols, The Coloring Book™! Protocols, The Lunchbox™! Protocols, The Breakfast Cereal™! Protocols, The Flame Thrower™! ...The kids love this one."
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Hook up with PEZ (Protocols of the Elders of Zion)

A Jew Dispenser......priceless. The ideas just keep coming.
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ohohohoh.....it dispenses "tablets".......don't know how I do it.
 
a_unique_person said:
Are George Soros and Peter Lewis Jewish?
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Mr. Soros is a secular Jew, though it would be something of a stretch to include him among the "usual suspect" Jews whom conspiracy theorists accuse of trying to take over the world -- he made his biggest splash by tweaking the "international bankers" the conspiracy nuts go on about and I don't think the state of Israel is likely to give him any "thanks for the support" awards anytime soon. Don't know about Mr. Lewis.

Regnad Kcin said:
The "usual O'Reilly defenders" can speak now?
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Oh sure, there's dozens of them right here on this forum, which is why hgc opened this here thread. I'm sure he can tell us who they are and point out some examples. In fact, hgc, why don't you do precisely that to quell the doubters.
 
I'll say it. O'Reilly is an idiot. He goes on every year about how "secularists" are destroying Christmas. He is deeply offended that store greeters and signage now say "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas" because gee, including other people besides Christians in your welcome is somehow a bad thing. (Not to mention that he doesn't provide any evidence that such practices are prevalent or even increasing.)

What a maroon.
 
This is the thing I don't get as well. Why is being more inclusive considered such a bad thing?

It's the same with the christmas/holiday tree in Boston. Changing it to a "holiday" tree means that we can enjoy it for other parts of the season, including Thanksgiving and even New Years, and people who don't celebrate Christmas can see in it whatever they want (Solstace!).

Apparently that's not good enough. Nope, the tree must be designated Christmas so we can announce the christian presence and exclude the non-christians from the mix.
 
I've been wishing people "Merry Walrus!" for three years running. Very few people seem to even notice. They hear what they want to hear.

I don't think of it as taking Christ out of Christmas, I think of it as putting more walruses in. If there's one thing Xmas needs to counteract all this crass commercialism, it's more walruses.
 
Imagine how much cooler the nativity scene would be, given how much you like them already.
 
The Christmas Tree started off as secular tradition (or pagan, if you like) in the first place. It was the Christians who hijacked it.

King Tut never saw a Christmas tree, but he would have understood the tradition which traces back long before the first Christmas, says David Robson, Extension Educator, Horticulture with the Springfield Extension Center.

The Egyptians were part of a long line of cultures that treasured and worshipped evergreens. When the winter solstice arrive, they brought green date palm leaves into their homes to symbolize life's triumph over death.

The Romans celebrated the winter solstice with a fest called Saturnalia in honor of Saturnus, the god of agriculture. They decorated their houses with greens and lights and exchanged gifts. They gave coins for prosperity, pastries for happiness, and lamps to light one's journey through life.

Centuries ago in Great Britain, woods priests called Druids used evergreens during mysterious winter solstice rituals. The Druids used holly and mistletoe as symbols of eternal life, and place evergreen branches over doors to keep away evil spirits.

Late in the Middle Ages, Germans and Scandinavians placed evergreen trees inside their homes or just outside their doors to show their hope in the forthcoming spring. Our modern Christmas tree evolved from these early traditions.
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http://www.christmas-tree.com/where.html
 
manny said:
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Oh sure, there's dozens of them right here on this forum, which is why hgc opened this here thread. I'm sure he can tell us who they are and point out some examples. In fact, hgc, why don't you do precisely that to quell the doubters.
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I knew at the time it was a mistake to throw down that particular gauntlet. If anyone wanted to defend him for this particular thing, they could certainly do it without my particular prompting. I didn't name them for 2 reasons -- I couldn't call to mind who they were and it isn't nice to go around calling people out by name, unprovoked.

Since Ed self-identifies as an occassional defender, he's a good example of whom I was interested in hearing from. For obvious reasons, he doesn't defend this.
 
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