2019-nCoV / Corona virus Pt 2

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angrysoba said:
My own hypothesis is this...comparing countries like South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, and Hong Kong, on the one hand, with Southern European countries on the other.

- I think Japan falls somewhere in between the two. They have taken some drastic steps such as closing all schools, and in Hokkaido requested the entire population to remain indoors during weekends, closing of theme parks, museums and zoos, etc... practicing social distancing.



Carnival is one example of congregating in large groups, but there have been many others.
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The one thing that can't be avoided here is the trains. Luckily most people are wearing masks. But I have to get into crowded train cars every work day.
 
Puppycow said:
The one thing that can't be avoided here is the trains. Luckily most people are wearing masks. But I have to get into crowded train cars every work day.
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Maybe it's time for everyone in the United States to start wearing masks. Oh....wait.
 
Meadmaker said:
Maybe it's time for everyone in the United States to start wearing masks. Oh....wait.
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Short-sighted public health officials only seem to understand the masks don't necessarily protect people wearing them. They are useful for keeping the ill person from spreading the virus.

Why is it they cannot see the benefit in having everyone wear a mask to prevent the spread? If it is spread before symptoms develop and it is now too widespread to know who has and has not been exposed, put a mask on everyone. If there is a shortage of N95s, a surgical mask will do if everyone wears one.
 
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Skeptic Ginger said:
Short-sighted public health officials only seem to understand the masks don't necessarily protect people wearing them. They are useful for keeping the ill person from spreading the virus.

Why is it they cannot see the benefit in having everyone wear a mask to prevent the spread? If it is spread before symptoms develop and it is now too widespread to know who has and has not been exposed, put a mask on everyone. If there is a shortage of N95s, a surgical mask will do if everyone wears one.
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You would know better than I, but would a bandana be better than nothing? Or a homemade mask? When dealing with exponential growth, a little improvement is a big deal. If it only stops 5% of the cases, that still matters.
 
The number of cases in Michigan just went from 3 to 12.

And every Michigan school is closed starting Monday.

Governor Whittmer jumped on this right away She declared a State of Emergency when two cases were announced. Our Robotics season was cancelled the day after, with other high school sports following suit shortly thereafter. No basketball championships for this year's seniors.

It's horrible, but this whole flattening the curve thing seems pretty important.
 
Meadmaker said:
You would know better than I, but would a bandana be better than nothing? Or a homemade mask? When dealing with exponential growth, a little improvement is a big deal. If it only stops 5% of the cases, that still matters.
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If you are stopping what you are breathing out, then yes. It will stop some virus you exhale.

If you are trying to stop what you are breathing in, the minute it is a little bit damp from your breath, it will no longer stop what you are breathing in.

If you do use one, consider it contaminated and put it in the laundry when you get home, carefully washing your hands after handling it.
 
Hello everyone, just popping in because I know several of you check many news sites and I'm looking for something in particular.

Does anyone know of a site that maintains a list of how many known US cases & deaths total each day. And again, totals, not just numbers for that day, but a running total.

I know there has to be a site maintaining a list but I can't find one from a brief search.

Just in case I was not clear, something like this:

March 1st: 5 cases 0 deaths
March 2nd: 7 cases 0 deaths
March 3rd: 15 cases 1 deaths



(Bonus points for the same running list, but worldwide, or for Italy, or wherever; but I need the US list in particular.)
 
When Trump is exorcised from the White House we will need a huge investigation, criminal investigation, into the testing protocols and if the rumors are true that it was horrendously handicapped by the attempt by the Trump administration to create a test that was different enough from existing ones to be patentable and thus a huge source of profit. If indeed it was the attempts to create a patent different test to make money that caused all the delays then people need to be in prison.
 
Meadmaker said:
The number of cases in Michigan just went from 3 to 12.

And every Michigan school is closed starting Monday.

Governor Whittmer jumped on this right away She declared a State of Emergency when two cases were announced. Our Robotics season was cancelled the day after, with other high school sports following suit shortly thereafter. No basketball championships for this year's seniors.

It's horrible, but this whole flattening the curve thing seems pretty important.
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It is. It doesn't just spread it out over time. If you get R0 below 1, which the Chinese not only did but dropped it below .5, the curve is squashed and the epidemic can be stopped. How quickly depends on how much below 1 you get. China apparently got it down to .3. They took the initial brunt of it since they had no idea what they were up against. Had to identify the bug, create a test process for it, and roll out tests. They still lost a few weeks because their officials were hoping it wasn't a real problem and/or it wouldn't spread human to human. But once it became clear, they took action. Quickly and strongly.

This is exactly why very early, widespread testing, containment, and mitigation is so important. The USA had well over a month of warning what they were up against and simply has no excuse for screwing this up and we will pay the price for the unconscionable decisions that put us in the situation of having so little testing capability 2 months after getting the genetic sequence.
 
This is The End said:
Hello everyone, just popping in because I know several of you check many news sites and I'm looking for something in particular.

Does anyone know of a site that maintains a list of how many known US cases & deaths total each day. And again, totals, not just numbers for that day, but a running total.

I know there has to be a site maintaining a list but I can't find one from a brief search.

Just in case I was not clear, something like this:

March 1st: 5 cases 0 deaths
March 2nd: 7 cases 0 deaths
March 3rd: 15 cases 1 deaths



(Bonus points for the same running list, but worldwide, or for Italy, or wherever; but I need the US list in particular.)
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Right here:

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/situation-reports

Just click on the latest situation report. A new one is published every day.

I've found the data for the US doesn't seem to be updated over the weekend, though. So some times it will show 0 new cases and then a few reports later suddenly there will be a big jump. The latest total for the US is 927 (confirmed cases).
 
Puppycow said:
Right here:

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/situation-reports

Just click on the latest situation report. A new one is published every day.

I've found the data for the US doesn't seem to be updated over the weekend, though. So some times it will show 0 new cases and then a few reports later suddenly there will be a big jump. The latest total for the US is 927 (confirmed cases).
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This has 1727 for US:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

They also claim to get data from WHO.
 
ProBonoShill said:
Some good news, a research team has isolated the COVID-19 virus:

https://globalnews.ca/news/6670445/canada-research-coronavirus-isolated/
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I believe this is the key in that story, "and grow copies". Because the virus has been isolated back in Dec in China.
“Thanks to nimble collaboration, the team was able to culture the virus from two clinical specimens in a Level 3 containment facility,” said a news release by Sunnybrook on Thursday.
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Maybe the reporter doesn't understand that.
 
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gypsyjackson said:
This has 1727 for US:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

They also claim to get data from WHO.
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It may be that the sitreps don't include repatriated cases. Americans who got it overseas and then came home. That could explain the discrepancy. In that case, the 927 would be only Americans who got it in America, not those who got it while traveling abroad or on a cruise ship. I'm just guessing that's why those 2 numbers are different. Or possibly the numbers will catch up when the next sitrep is published. The numbers may be up to a day old.
 
Schools are starting to close around here. Durham, Orange, and Moore Counties so far, which interestingly have no confirmed cases reported.

There are 12 reported confirmed cases in the state to date. Kind of scattered and nearly all brought in from elsewhere.

I guess they are trying to get ahead of the problem. Good for them.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
If you are stopping what you are breathing out, then yes. It will stop some virus you exhale.

If you are trying to stop what you are breathing in, the minute it is a little bit damp from your breath, it will no longer stop what you are breathing in.

If you do use one, consider it contaminated and put it in the laundry when you get home, carefully washing your hands after handling it.
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One thing I do not understand. Why are masks only good to protect others from the sickness of the wearer? You have said when it gets damp it will no longer stop what you are breathing in. What about breathing out? What is the difference?
 
17 coronavirus cases now confirmed in SA as virus spreads to two more provinces

  1. Free State - 1 new infection - A 32-year-old man came into contact with a Chinese businessman. He has not travelled abroad and becomes the country's first local transmission of the coronavirus. Mpumalanga - 1 new infection - A 27-year-old woman who had returned from the United States on March 7, tested positive
  2. KZN - 1 new infection - A 38-year-old man from Durban, but who resides in Turkey, was visiting his family in South Africa when he tested postive. He arrived in the country via the UK on March 7.
  3. Gauteng - 1 new infection - A 43-year-old Joburg man traveled to New York via Dubai and returned to South Africa on March 8. He tested positive.
 
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