Qanon Conspiracy theories

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Bubba said:
Regarding google, Zack Vorhies would surely beg to differ with the chorus here.

"Google’s Snowden", Vorhies reveals the secret political google.

He was a google exec for 8.5 yrs.

https://youtu.be/msXkupMrkZw
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Google is not obligated to give you the search results you want. Your precious YouTube is provided by Google in any case.

Anything else I can help you with?
 
Thank goodness we can still shield ourselves from pesky truths by attacking messengers.
 
eerok said:
Google is not obligated to give you the search results you want. Your precious YouTube is provided by Google in any case.
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YouTube is far from precious because it now silences voices google dislikes. Were you aware, you would agree



Anything else I can help you with?
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Sure

When did you first hear of Vorhies' assertions and what is your assessment ?
 
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Bubba said:
YouTube is far from precious because it now silences voices google dislikes. Were you aware, you would agree
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So you've got bitchute. (Though you're still linking to YouTube.) I don't really care what Google does as long as I can use other search engines and block their trackers. I also don't trust your obviously biased sources.

Bubba said:
When did you first hear of Vorhies' assertions and what is your assessment ?
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He's been making wild claims for years. Remember when Google purportedly deleted the Arabic term "covfefe" from Google Translate? Yeah, because Trump regularly tweets in Arabic. O'Keefe and Vorhies are both idiots, and I don't care what they say.
 
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eerok said:
So you've got bitchute. (Though you're still linking to YouTube.) I don't really care what Google does as long as I can use other search engines and block their trackers. I also don't trust your obviously biased sources.


He's been making wild claims for years. Remember when Google purportedly deleted the Arabic term "covfefe" from Google Translate? Yeah, because Trump regularly tweets in Arabic. O'Keefe and Vorhies are both idiots, and I don't care what they say.
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Rather than pointing out that your highlighted remark is to me a way of avoiding the issue......

When;
(a) an investigative reporter or an (undercover videographer) records some Senator or campaign manager, or high bureaucrat exposing themselves or their organization by revealing some whatever, opposite of what they'd say publicly about an issue or policy. ie other words, 'caught in a lie'.

and, when, after seeing said report or expose, an esteemed internet poster

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Calls the reporter an idiot or attacks his background...

My question being... is there a special new internet term for that tactic, or is the old 'shooting the messenger' still the only term we have.?


I also don't trust your obviously biased sources.
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How is the messenger a source when the words come out of the horse's mouth without editing?

Two come to mind;

* A State Dept manager got fired after bragging on camera about "..intentionally F***ing things up all day long, to sabotage the administration."

* NPR exec Schiller wound up resigning, Resignation from NPR, for which I will trust wikipedia to explain

In March 2011, Vivian Schiller resigned as president and chief executive of National Public Radio amid controversy surrounding the former NPR fundraising executive Ronald Schiller, who is not related to Vivian Schiller.[19][20][21] Ronald Schiller has been secretly taped in a sting operation, where during a private conversation with two men posing as potential donors, he derided the "tea party" movement as a collection of "gun-toting" racists and "fundamentalist Christians" who have "hijacked" the Republican Party. Vivian Schiller's departure was, in part, an attempt to show congressional budget-cutters that NPR could hold itself accountable.[22]

Dave Edwards, then Chair of the NPR Board of Directors, sent the following message to the NPR staff regarding the resignation: "It is with deep regret that I tell you that the NPR Board of Directors has accepted the resignation of Vivian Schiller as President and CEO of NPR, effective immediately. The Board accepted her resignation with understanding, genuine regret, and great respect for her leadership of NPR these past two years."[23] She was succeeded on an interim basis by Joyce Slocum, the senior vice president of Legal Affairs and General Counsel



I don't really care what Google does
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What do you care about?
 
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Bubba said:
[...] My question being... is there a special new internet term for that tactic, or is the old 'shooting the messenger' still the only term we have.?
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O'Keefe has been shown repeatedly to be a propagandist and liar. It's called "having no credibility." Why should I believe anything he says? Why should I believe his videos are unedited when he's been caught fabricating evidence and committing outright fraud? I'm justified in calling him an idiot because he continuously does idiotic things. He's not "the messenger", he's a creator of disinformation.

Bubba said:
What do you care about?
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I care about a quality of thinking higher than what's commonly exhibited by paranoid conspiracists and cheap political hacks.
 
James O'Keefe is a joke.

When an "investigative videographer" tries to frame a CNN reporter by attempting to lure her to a yacht full of dildos, or when he breaks into the Senate Office building wearing a telephone repairman outfit, anything else that "esteemed reporter" does is quite suspect at this point.
 
Don’t forget his absolutely clumsy attempt to “prove” the Washington Post was out to get poor Roy Moore with fake news by planting a fake victim and not realizing Fact Checking is a real thing among real journalists.
 
from Judicial Watch:

We’ve been in court for years over Hillary Clinton’s emails — as you know, we are persistent for justice.

The great news is that U.S. District Court Judge Royce C. Lamberth has granted our request to depose the former secretary of state about her emails and Benghazi attack documents. The court also ordered the deposition of Clinton’s former Chief of Staff, Cheryl Mills, and two other State Department officials.

Additionally, the court granted our request to subpoena Google for relevant documents and records associated with Clinton’s emails during her tenure at the State Department.
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https://www.judicialwatch.org/
 
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Emails and Benghazi again. What's that definition of insanity?

I'm watching a documentary on Imelda Marcos, and I like this quote: "Guns can only kill you to the grave." I don't doubt that some will still be barking about Hillary long after she's gone.
 
eerok said:
Emails and Benghazi again. What's that definition of insanity?

I'm watching a documentary on Imelda Marcos, and I like this quote: "Guns can only kill you to the grave." I don't doubt that some will still be barking about Hillary long after she's gone.
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I have no doubt this is true. I still see people going on about the Lincoln assassination conspiracy and FDR letting Pearl Harbor happen.
 
eerok said:
Emails and Benghazi again.

What's that definition of insanity?
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Whats included in your definition of 'again' ?



Would your 'again' cover this bit below ?


The ruling comes in Judicial Watch’s lawsuit that seeks records concerning “talking points or updates on the Benghazi attack” (Judicial Watch v. U.S. Department of State (No. 1:14-cv-01242)). Judicial Watch famously uncovered in 2014 that the “talking points” that provided the basis for Susan Rice’s false statements were created by the Obama White House. This Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit led directly to the disclosure of the Clinton email system in 2015.

In December 2018, Judge Lamberth first ordered discovery into whether Secretary Clinton’s use of a private email server was intended to stymie FOIA; whether the State Department’s intent to settle this case in late 2014 and early 2015 amounted to bad faith; and whether the State Department has adequately searched for records responsive to Judicial Watch’s request. The court also authorized discovery into whether the Benghazi controversy motivated the cover-up of Clinton’s email. The court ruled that the Clinton email system was “one of the gravest modern offenses to government transparency.” The State and Justice Departments continued to defend Clinton’s and the agency’s email conduct.

Judge Lamberth today overruled Clinton’s and the State and Justice Department’s objections to limited additional discovery by first noting:

Discovery up until this point has brought to light a noteworthy amount of relevant information, but Judicial Watch requests an additional round of discovery, and understandably so. With each passing round of discovery, the Court is left with more questions than answers.

Additionally, Judge Lamberth said that he is troubled by the fact that both the State Department and Department of Justice want to close discovery in this case:

There is still more to learn. Even though many important questions remain unanswered, the Justice Department inexplicably still takes the position that the Court should close discovery and rule on dispositive motions. The Court is especially troubled by this. To argue that the Court now has enough information to determine whether State conducted an adequate search is preposterous, especially when considering State’s deficient representations regarding the existence of additional Clinton emails. Instead, the Court will authorize a new round of discovery

With respect to Clinton, the court found that her prior testimony, mostly through written sworn answers, was not sufficient:

The Court has considered the numerous times in which Secretary Clinton said she could not recall or remember certain details in her prior interrogatory answers. In a deposition, it is more likely that plaintiff’s counsel could use documents and other testimony to attempt to refresh her recollection. And so, to avoid the unsatisfying and inefficient outcome of multiple rounds of fruitless interrogatories and move this almost six-year-old case closer to its conclusion, Judicial Watch will be permitted to clarify and further explore Secretary Clinton’s answers in person and immediately after she gives them. The Court agrees with Judicial Watch – it is time to hear directly from Secretary Clinton.

“Judicial Watch uncovered the Clinton email scandal and we’re pleased that the court authorized us to depose Mrs. Clinton directly on her email conduct and how it impacted the people’s ‘right to know’ under FOIA,” stated Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton.
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https://www.judicialwatch.org/press...linton-on-emails-and-benghazi-attack-records/
 
Bubba said:
Whats included in your definition of 'again' ?
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Weren't there already eleven official GOP Hillary Benghazi investigations? I can't remember how many official GOP Hillary email investigations there were, but I do know that no intentional wrongdoing was found.

You really need to own the fact that the GOP is the party of character assassination. The worse thing Hillary actually ever did was to be boring and lack charisma.

If you want lawsuits with actual evidence, wait until Trump waddles his fat orange ass out of the White House.

ETA: Maybe we can get back to discussing the Qanon circus? Or perhaps this all just a big blur for you.
 
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Bubba said:
Whats included in your definition of 'again' ?



Would your 'again' cover this bit below ?
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There have been 10 investigations, 12 books, and 1 movie.

In the end the facts are these:

1- Ambassador Stevens ignored the standard September 11 travel warnings and left the Embassy in Tripoli to attend meetings in Benghazi where he would stay at the Embassy Annex. The annex was under-guarded and easily overrun.

2 - Due to Sequestration the DoD and DoS didn't have the money to add US Marine security forces in Libya.

3 - The Obama Administration's NSC decided to lie about the attack by claiming it was in response to a YouTube video and not a strike by an Al Qaeda (loosely) affiliated militia.

That's all she wrote.
 
eerok said:
I hope no one is drinking bleach. I have a taste for cheap scotch, though.
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Drinking bleach will kill you in short order.


Deinking scotch will also kill you eventually, if one drinks enough in a short enough time.

But nobody is proposing scotch as a solution to corona. Except Trump fans. Who are proposing drinking bleach.

It makes one wonder about the reality of natural selection and even Darwin awards.
 
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