Qanon Conspiracy theories

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Checkmite said:
The reasons aren't a mystery of course - Qanon is intrinsically a Trump-supporting worldview, and Trump ordered the detention of the migrant children on military bases, therefore it is good; the young migrant children are, well, law-breaking brown people, so the abuse they suffer isn't outrageous like the suffering of the white American child-victims alleged by the conspiracy theory is. Nevertheless, I find the naked hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance utterly fascinating.
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There's also the problem that we saw with lots of 9/11 Truthers: Dealing with real-world problems is actually difficult. It's far easier to solve a made-up problem, since the "solution" literally doesn't matter.

Lots of 9/11 Truthers didn't like the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and they pretended to "fight GW Bush" by "exposing the inside job", which largely involved sitting at home and posting on the internet. Compare that to what it would have taken to actually limit or stop the wars they claimed to dislike: Actually motivating enough voters to oppose the war that you either get Bush et al. to change their plans, or get them voted out of office, so that a new President can stop the war.

Qanon is the same. They can sit at home and brag about how they're "saving the kids" in some fantasy camp, instead of actually trying to convince Trump to change his policies, or get ICE disbanded, or something, anything, real.

Look at Bubba above. He's all smug and satisfied with his "win" over that vague "Justice!" 'prediction'. That's literally all it takes to make him feel like he's doing something, and winning his fight. And it's literally impossible to lose, when your standards for winning are so low. It's the participation ribbon of public service, but they act like it's the gold medal.
 
Horatius said:
If some terrorist finally sets off a nuke tomorrow, you're going to be in sooooooo much trouble :D
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Nah that is how many people die on average each day in the USA and the rest of the world - the prediction comes true almost every day.

I remember a crackpot freaking out when they realized during the 8 years of the Obama Presidency that many Americans 'died on his watch', something like 21 million Americans had died during those his eight years.
 
More wacky stuff from that internet.

I think this is about politics or something. Or corruption, maybe.


● They are going broke.
● They have no one on the inside anymore.
● We know all who are in their club.
● We have all the evidence.
● We have tons of real witnesses.
● They're out of good drugs. (So they gotta do the bad ones)
● After 4 years of 18 hour days trying to get Trump out of office, they're tired and severely fatigued. A bit insane and off balance.


I'd say GOOD JOB TEAM.

And I just covered what's on the surface of the world.

I didn't cover what's going on Underground and in Space."
 
Hans said:
Nah that is how many people die on average each day in the USA and the rest of the world - the prediction comes true almost every day.

I remember a crackpot freaking out when they realized during the 8 years of the Obama Presidency that many Americans 'died on his watch', something like 21 million Americans had died during those his eight years.
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Yes, I realized that, but the Hans Truthers who would be hounding you for the rest of your days certainly wouldn't. Even if you tried to explain the statistics to them, they'd be all, "Oh? And how exactly do YOU know all that?!?"

And if you answered "School", well, then, you're just admitting to being one of those hoighty-toighty "elites", aren't you? :D
 
I looked for a source for the last nonsense, and this made me giggle.
 

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Horatius said:
And if you answered "School", well, then, you're just admitting to being one of those hoighty-toighty "elites", aren't you? :D
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I actually knew that as a previous friend had Uncles and Aunts in the mortuary business.

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Heck yeah I not only attended said schools I set up a dozen or so of them in the ME and even taught in or managed them. I believe that makes me a quadruple threat?

Chuckle
 
Horatius said:
There's also the problem that we saw with lots of 9/11 Truthers: Dealing with real-world problems is actually difficult. It's far easier to solve a made-up problem, since the "solution" literally doesn't matter.
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There's also, of course, the fact that they just enjoy being contrarians. They are this edgy underground movement committed to exposing horrible things that the common rube is too naïve, ignorant, or scared to acknowledge, be it toxins in vaccines, Jewish plots, passenger planes spraying poisons, or 9/11 being an inside job.

Actual, proven events, that the boring mainstream talks about? What would be the point. No edginess points to be gained.

Back when I had Facebook, someone wrote to a particularly stubbornn antivaxxer in a skeptics group I was part of that if vaccines were actually banned, he and the other antivaxxers would be the first to turn around and defend them.
 
One morning, back in the day, all the search engines #1 result for 'Charlie Sheen' was what Sheen said the night before:

"On Entertainment Tonite Sheen said 9/11 was an inside job"
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....all but one search engine, that is. Google's top result for Charlie Sheen that morning, and for a few days, was simply the usual:

Charlie Sheen, actor, son of Martin, bad boy, etc.
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Is it correct that such a disparity in search results could be due to manual bypassing of the 'spidering' system search engines use?

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Fast forward to today....(more stuff you need to know)

No link seen. Searching his name gets results.


The search rank for the QAnon source data sites is very different on Google versus other search engines.

Humour me for a moment. Imagine you're from the political left, and everything you know about QAnon comes from mainstream media sources. A delinquent friend into the Q conspiracy theory sends you Trump's latest official campaign video, and once you've stopped rolling your eyes, you agree to take a look.

How odd! Someone right smack in the middle of the screen is wearing a Q-themed top. And it's at the 55 second mark, which your crazy Q friends tells you is military-speak — "5:5" — for "loud and clear". You shrug your shoulders and make a note to take a look to see what all the fuss is about.

You go to Google… and all you can find are mainstream media hit pieces on QAnon. So you give up looking further. It can't be that important. After all, it's just a debunked silly conspiracy theory, no?

This isn't a hypothetical story. Before I present you with some data on how Google is hiding the Q drop source data, here is a comment I received today:

Google is the reason it took me an extra year or two to wake up. I was searching with all the right words and ideas on Google but not receiving results. I gave up for a while but came back for more when Jeffrey Epstein was arrested in June. By June 10 I was awake.

Now, being one of those annoyingly scientific types, I am quite insistent that before I make up my mind on anything, I'll look at the source data, use diligent reasoning, and think independently. In the context of Q, the first of these would imply going to one of two popular websites that aggregate the Q drops, which are scattered around 4chan, 8chan, and 8kun.

I did a search for "qanon" and compared the rankings of qanon.pub and qmap.pub across multiple search engines.

qanon.pub search rank:
- Bing - 1
- Yahoo - 1
- Quant - 3
- DuckDuckGo - 1
- Yandex - 3
- Yippy* - 2
- Google - 100
(*IBM Watson)

qmap.pub search rank:
- Bing - 1 (as sub result)
- Yahoo - not in first 20 pages
- Quant - 4
- DuckDuckGo - 8
- Yandex - 17
- Yippy - 9
- Google - 128

There is an odd anomaly of Yahoo not listing qmap.pub, when qanon.pub is the top result. (Curiously, Twitter censors qmap.pub if you try to tweet it from their mobile client.) Whatever. The picture is beyond doubt: Google shows you the mainstream media's "official narrative", and buries the source data you need to think for yourself.

Regardless of your political outlook, this ability to "memory hole" important data is troubling. As another commenter notes (hidden behind Twitter's censorship trick of "show more results"):

Google buried Tulsi Gabbard when they wanted to silence her. She was the most googled candidate after she cut the others to ribbons in the debate. But google searches for her got buried 9 pages deep. Imagine what they're doing to the Q community searches!
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As always, you can partially gauge the veracity of claims like these by how well-written they are. Search engines during this time knew how to correctly spell the name of the TV program "Entertainment Tonight."

It's like when your crazy uncle Bob forwards you a chain mail about the latest health panic, and it's attributed to the "Center" "of" Disease Control or whatever. Just delete and move on with your day.

Is this a not-so-clever way to trick people into typing "Qanon" into their search engines, to test this idiot's theory? Could be.
 
Another one of those stories where someone's mad at search results, apparently not realizing they are tailored to your own habits and preferences.

Perhaps this is Google's way of telling you to stop self-radicalizing.
 
Just frikkin amazing.

Google politicizes/weaponizes search results. Plus, Google, FB, youtube, twitter to are using various tactics to block/limit/silence voices whose politics they dislike.
 
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Bubba said:
Just frikkin amazing.

Google politicizes/weaponizes search results. Plus, Google, FB, youtube, twitter to are using various tactics to block/limit/silence voices whose politics they dislike.
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If that's what you believe -
why doesn't Trump start an investigation?
why not regulate the internet Giants?
 
The founder of Yippy, Rich Granvile, is a Q guy who just spoke at Alex Jones' not-CPAC event along with some white nationalist morons. Maybe that's the best one to use for q people. They can search and find everything in their own little fake universe and not be troubled by accurate information getting through to them.
 
Bubba said:
Just frikkin amazing.

Google politicizes/weaponizes search results. Plus, Google, FB, youtube, twitter to are using various tactics to block/limit/silence voices whose politics they dislike.
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Anyone who uses any of those things for news deserves what they get.
 
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