2020 Democratic Candidates Tracker Part III

[TragicMonkey]

I know he can, and he will. I'm saying the second time around his con will work on less people.


Speaking of Trump, he couldn't help himself gloating over Bloomberg dropping out. Trump can't stop himself. Bloomberg still has billions of dollars with which to denigrate Trump everyday on big ads. Trump would have been wise to shut up. But nope, because he can't stop himself.

How much did that "Baby Trump" hot air balloon cost to make? I bet Bloomberg could get hundreds of those made, and have an ominous circle of them hovering in the sky, staring at Trump wherever he goes. He could buy all the land around Mar-a-Lago and tether thousands of the things there. They'd be packed so closely together you could hear the thrumming sound when the wind knocks them gently against each other. All the wrong people have money, I could do such wonderful things with that kind of dough!

Except I wouldn't make the balloons comical. I'd make them creepy as hell, with empty, bleeding eyesockets. Thrumm, thrummm, thrummmmmmm.

 

[Suddenly]

I know he can, and he will. I'm saying the second time around his con will work on less people.


Speaking of Trump, he couldn't help himself gloating over Bloomberg dropping out. Trump can't stop himself. Bloomberg still has billions of dollars with which to denigrate Trump everyday on big ads. Trump would have been wise to shut up. But nope, because he can't stop himself.

Awesome. More people who think it is bad that Trump eats burned steak and cheats at golf will hear about it more.

Insulting Trump will at best have zero effect. At worst he looks sympathetic. He needs to concentrate on the down ballot races where money is way more of an issue. Or spend it in some really nefarious way to cripple Trump. Like hire away his whole campaign staff a few times. Be creative.

 

[Elagabalus]

I think people are misunderstanding me. Of course Trump will attack Biden on all these fronts. That's a no brainer. What I'm saying is we can attack back and it will stick.

Who do think will just ignore this malarkey?

Just a bit earlier:

So selfish for Elizabeth Warren to stay in the race. She has Zero chance of even coming close to winning, but hurts Bernie badly. So much for their wonderful liberal friendship. Will he ever speak to her again? She cost him Massachusetts (and came in third), he shouldn’t!

Trump is going to keep doing his "I know you are, but what am I" schtick and Biden will take the bait every time and Bernie's just going to keep doing his Bernie schtick and ignore it.



And just keep going.

 

[xjx388]

I've got to step in at this point. The constitution says that the President shall have Power, .... and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint ... Judges of the Supreme Court, McConnell's Senate did not do this. Thus, I would argue what he did was unconstitutional. If not, then it was at the very least cheating. That is not simply competing.

The Senate makes the rules by which advice and consent is given. I am not at all disputing that it was a dick move; but, I don’t think it can be argued that it violated the Constitution. Cheating would imply breaking the rules and Mitch makes the rules.

In this case, it was in the interest of the Republicans to hold off on confirmation of Garland. It was in the interest of the Dems/Obama Admin to get their nominee confirmed. Is this a case of exploiting the rules to gain an advantage? Hell yes it was. But that’s fair game in any competition.

 

[Meadmaker]

I don't know if this link will work, it's to a political cartoon in the middle of the "News in Cartoons" feature that shows up in the MSN home page, the one that you get if you are too lazy to set a different home page.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opin...d-march-4/ss-AAJ7oYd?ocid=spartandhp#image=10

So, here's a verbal description.

The caption is "Democrats Unite Behind Sanders". It has Bernie in the foreground, and behind him is a line of Democrats (recognizable by their donkey heads) holding up a sign that says, "Vote Biden".


That's kind of how I feel. I didn't want Biden, but he'll do, and I'm planning on voting for him. With everyone else out, it's time to unite around the candidate that isn't Bernie Sanders.



(Bernie isn't awful. I'll vote for him if he wins the nomination, but I definitely don't like him, and yes it is because of the S word. If I were sure that Republicans would retain control of the Senate, I might even happily vote for Bernie.)

 

[Meadmaker]

dupe

 

[acbytesla]

Nah, people liked that. I think she just wasn't polarizing enough. The Biden and Bernie people screaming at each other sucked all the oxygen out of the room.

It's what you and I like about her. The voters, not so much.

Obama wasn't polarizing.

I absolutely love Elizabeth Warren, but I thought she was a terrible politician. I thought she wasn't going to win the moment she took a DNA test to prove her heritage. That was never ever going to help her, only make her look weak.

And I wanted to be wrong. Like Hillary, I thought Warren would make a great President.

 

[Suddenly]

But that's just Trump's base. The middle is less likely to be conned again.

That isn't how people work.

People who get conned tend to go to any length to convince themselves they weren't conned.

 

[Meadmaker]

I absolutely love Elizabeth Warren, but I thought she was a terrible politician. I thought she wasn't going to win the moment she took a DNA test to prove her heritage. That was never ever going to help her, only make her look weak.

It's amazing how such a small thing can make such a big difference. I really think that is what sank her candidacy, and it is so trivial.


And yet, after she did that, I had a hard time taking her seriously.


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[Sideroxylon]

No kidding. Trump gets more senile by the day and Sanders' physical decline is showing.

While Elizabeth Warren just gets smarter and prettier with each passing day!

Maybe its Maybelline or a painting in the attic.

 

[Childlike Empress]

The nickname didn't finish her.

I thought she wasn't going to win the moment she took a DNA test to prove her heritage.

 

[Suddenly]

It's amazing how such a small thing can make such a big difference. I really think that is what sank her candidacy, and it is so trivial.


And yet, after she did that, I had a hard time taking her seriously.


.

Was it trivial? It was sort of like some Young Republican type claiming to be African American because once you go back far enough we are all genetically African. Except she really, really should have known better.

Had she done this with a more politically active marginalized group it would have been immediately fatal to her career.

 

[d4m10n]

The Senate makes the rules by which advice and consent is given.

Where is that written? If the Senate neglects to even consider a nominee, it doesn't make much sense to say they are following constitutional procedure.

 

[Beelzebuddy]

It's what you and I like about her. The voters, not so much.

The voters too. That's been her running tragedy this election: Warren was everyone's first pick, but everyone felt they needed to support someone else to make sure some third group voted against Trump.

 

[Doghouse Reilly]

Nonsense. If wishes were horses, beggars would dine like Frenchmen. Some day I'm going to release a book correcting all these mistaken adages.

I'd buy it.

 

[Beelzebuddy]

"If wishes were horses, we'd all be eating steak" is how I've heard the joke told.

 

[Minoosh]

That slip is far from the only one, he makes them regularly now. And he didn’t before. It’s the change which is significant. If he had always made such slips, as you say you do, it wouldn’t mean much. If you didn’t previously make such mistakes and now you did on a regular basis, would you brush it off? Or would you go see a neurologist?

For the sake of the country and his own health, I hope Trump follows your advice.

 

[Cabbage]

Actually, I do recognize that reality. But the GOP base would never have been Bernie's target had he sought to widen his base. Rather, think suburban women. Rust belt employees. Small business types who get clobbered by health care costs. Ignore the bible thumpers and Deplorables.

I'm starting to wonder what the point of this is. I feel like I'm just being begged to admit something/anything negative about Bernie. It was brought up that if Bernie had been effective at building a national following "McConnell's obstructionism would have been an asset he could have used as a selling point"---as if I am now expected to hold this against him.

OK.

So I suppose I'm expected next to shift my support to some other Democrat who, incidentally, has also failed to build a national coalition to take McConnell out of office?

My point is that it certainly seems a double standard is at play here. Why does Bernie get this unique distinction?

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Awesome. More people who think it is bad that Trump eats burned steak and cheats at golf will hear about it more.

Insulting Trump will at best have zero effect. At worst he looks sympathetic. He needs to concentrate on the down ballot races where money is way more of an issue. Or spend it in some really nefarious way to cripple Trump. Like hire away his whole campaign staff a few times. Be creative.

No, that's not what I meant at all, it's my bad for not being clear enough.

What I mean is those insults thrown back at Trump will neutralize the attacks on Biden.

 

[Puppycow]

I still wonder what Tulsi Gabbard is up to, and why her rhetoric so often seems to mirror Trump's.

Gabbard attacks Warren as 'fake indigenous woman of color'

Yeah, she's still nominally in the race, even if nobody cares. Someone on Fox News mistakenly said that Warren was "the only woman" left in the race.