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2020 Democratic Candidates Tracker Part III

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JoeMorgue said:
I am wondering what the angle/advantage is for Klobuchar and Buttigeig to drop out at the 11th Hour of Super Tuesday instead of right after.
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To keep Sanders from winning as the result of the Biden/Klobuchar/Buttigieg vote being split.
 
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Meadmaker said:
And then there were four.

Bernie, Liz, Joe or Mike?

I'm not liking anyone. It will be Biden or warren? Unless super Tuesday changes everything.
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We've also got Michael Bennet and DeVal Patrick on our ballot, but they're out as well. I had to look up to see who the hell they are.

The final option on our ballot is "Uncommitted Delegates". That may be worth choosing.
 
Snark:

Amy and Pete will get to pick out new offices for dropping out and endorsing.

Warren will get to pick hers out for staying in.

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I kid, I kid, Biden won't win so it's all just rearranging deck chairs.
 
Delphic Oracle said:
More than 80% going "not <any other candidate>."

It's a mixture of sad and amusing that so many keep tripping over this same basic error.

Being selective in showing the amount of vote not received in a race split several ways while making sure to never point out or admit "that's still better than any other candidate" on that same issue reeks of bias.
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What error is it that you think is being made?
No candidate that has dropped out has yet put their support behind Sanders.
Evidence points to only one being even possibly likely to do so.
Further, Sanders supporters are the least likely of any candidates' supporters to vote for whichever Democrat wins the primaries.

Those things are Indicative that Sanders stands apart from the broader field.
That, combined with the lead he has had, makes votes for other candidates more "not Sanders" than votes for Bloomberg (for example) are "not Warren" (or Biden)
 
Trebuchet said:
Sorry for the nitpick, but you've touched a sore point. The word is "moot", which means "arguable". Think "entmoot" in LOTR. I had a boss that said said "mute point" in damn near every meeting. I regret never having corrected him.
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Irregardless, if you'd of corrected him you'd of had another thing coming.
 
Distracted1 said:
What error is it that you think is being made?
No candidate that has dropped out has yet put their support behind Sanders.
Evidence points to only one being even possibly likely to do so.
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Well...
If by yet, you mean this year, then okay.
Otherwise, the tally of endorsements disagrees.


For Joe Biden: Pete Buttigieg, Amy Klobuchar, Seth Moulton, Beto O’Rourke, and Tim Ryan.

For Bernie Sanders: Bill de Blasio, Mike Gravel, and Marianne Williamson.

For Elizabeth Warren: Julián Castro.
 
Trebuchet said:
Sorry for the nitpick, but you've touched a sore point. The word is "moot", which means "arguable". Think "entmoot" in LOTR. I had a boss that said said "mute point" in damn near every meeting. I regret never having corrected him.
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No it's a "Moo" Point, ya know like a cow's opinion...
 
Trebuchet said:
Sorry for the nitpick, but you've touched a sore point. The word is "moot", which means "arguable". Think "entmoot" in LOTR. I had a boss that said said "mute point" in damn near every meeting. I regret never having corrected him.
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In the Navy, a coner said in a meeting that hindsight was 50/50.
 
SezMe said:
Where would EITHER be without the largess of wealthy capitalists?

Cleaned up your punctuation and spelling in the process! I should run for prez. :p
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I agree with your first statement but not the second. "Largesse" and "largess" are both valid spellings, it's one of those words that can be spelled either way, per the user's taste. And the comma there isn't necessarily erroneous, it indicates a pause, likely placed there for dramatic effect of the second half.

Let's not let petty politics blind us to the fluidity of English speech, and its glorious expressive spirit that cannot be trammelled by petty rules! Also your second sentence is technically a sentence fragment since you left the subject "I" out.
 
Fast Eddie B said:
Watching Joe Biden speaking in Dallas right now, he’s certainly anything but sleepy.
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I'm convinced after his Nevada debate performance that he did something regarding his energy. He looked like death.

Maybe got some labs done and addressed some sort of deficiency. Vitamin B, iron, low testosterone, who knows. Or maybe just speed of some sort. Or stopped skipping leg day. Something.
 
Suddenly said:
I'm convinced after his Nevada debate performance that he did something regarding his energy. He looked like death.

Maybe got some labs done and addressed some sort of deficiency. Vitamin B, iron, low testosterone, who knows. Or maybe just speed of some sort. Or stopped skipping leg day. Something.
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A line of coke would have the same effect. And judging by the ridiculous lab fees I get charged for an office visit and simple blood panel it would be cheaper!
 
Cabbage said:
The fact that both Klobuchar and Buttigieg both dropped out today, just one day before Super Tuesday, convinces me that their intention is to spoil Sanders' chance. ....
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So in your mind eliminating the split vote that Sanders benefits from is "spoiling his chance"?
 
Looks like Buttigieg and Klobuchar dropped out in the hopes their voters will support Biden and should he win they get a seat in his administration.

I don't know if Warren genuinely thinks if she stays she can win a brokered convention or if she is staying in to keep her votes from going to Sanders and thus also boosting Biden on Super Tuesday. If he gets a big enough lead to once again be thought of as the best chance vs Trump it could push fence sitters in future primaries towards him.

Either way I'm a bit disappointed in her decision.
 
Distracted1 said:
What error is it that you think is being made?
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The one I indicated.

No candidate that has dropped out has yet put their support behind Sanders.
Evidence points to only one being even possibly likely to do so.
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Goalpost movement detected.


Further, Sanders supporters are the least likely of any candidates' supporters to vote for whichever Democrat wins the primaries.
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I understand that just has to get stated at every opportunity, thank you.

But it is less true of Sanders than it was of Hillary when it came to Obama.

I don't actually want to engage you in this line, though. I just thought perhaps I'd point out how useless it is to throw tidbits of data like that around.

Those things are Indicative that Sanders stands apart from the broader field.
That, combined with the lead he has had, makes votes for other candidates more "not Sanders" than votes for Bloomberg (for example) are "not Warren" (or Biden)
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That still wouldn't address the constant use of this tactic despite what a poor argument it really is when not cherry picked or placed in context. In a field where there's more than 2 candidates, referring to the fact one of them has "more against them than for them" tries to punch above its weight class.

As to where a candidate's supporters go, there was already some data shared indicating Bernie has considerable pull as 2nd choice for a lot of voters.
 
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