Bloomberg for President?

theprestige said:
Money is great for putting a product on the market. It's not so great for guaranteeing enough customers to turn a profit.

Clinton may have "won the popular vote", but that margin wasn't at all proportional to the margin by which she out spent Trump Bloomberg's money may have bought him enough hype to get a debate spot, but he's probably already entering the realm of diminishing returns.

If audiences think he blew it in the debate, there's probably not enough money in the world to buy back that lost enthusiasm.
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So many selective memories about the 2016 election in this forum. :rolleyes:


Have you forgotten or are you ignoring the fact Trump got hours and hours of free airtime?
 
Okay, I've decided. I'm an absolute no on Bloomberg.

If he wins the nomination, I'll vote for him. But I won't vote for him in the primaries. I'd vote for a BLT over Trump but, you know, don't overcook the bacon. Because then it's like eating glass. And you get a shard right in the roof of your mouth. And don't even talk to me about mayo. Why do they put on so much mayo? And why is it always on the lettuce side so the lettuce is sliding around and the mayo is everywhere, and I've got a shard of bacon lodged in my eye and all I wanted was a cup of soup but everyone was having sandwiches so I don't want to be the schmuck that breaks that up, the bill comes and everybody's got an eight dollar sandwich and my soup is three ninety-nine. I don't see why I should suddenly have to subsidize everybody's goddamn sandwich and I'm the poor guy at the table. You have any idea what these other fakakte goyim make in an hour. They shtup the waitress a hundred dollars. And I'm not doing bad, I got a bissell gelt. But I'm not earning more interest eating a sandwich than most menchen make in a year. And the shvartzes, don't tell me about the shvartzes. Do you know what they pay just because they're shwoogies? Banks, the hair salons, the car dealers. Give the nebish a shot is all I'm asking. And I got this shiksa over here taking credit for my medicare program, and this fegulah with his centerest mishpuchah, and the Grand Rebbie of Brooklyn spending four hundred million to tell people I didn't put in for the sandwiches. Nicht mit der ads, already.
 
I don't think Bloomberg can win the nomination, but he might make it more likely for Sanders to win, by splitting the centrist votes.
 
Puppycow said:
I don't think Bloomberg can win the nomination, but he might make it more likely for Sanders to win, by splitting the centrist votes.
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This is certainly problematic for the moderates, but the real problem is that all of them have good reasons to stay in the race:

Biden: Looks like he's got the inside track in South Carolina and better still nobody's going to be attacking him tomorrow night; they are going to focus on Bernie (and potentially Steyer).

Bloomberg: He's still got strong enough numbers to do well on Super Tuesday, and potentially be second in delegates only 8 days from now.

Buttigieg: He's got a first, a close second and a close third so far. He's likely to sink lower in South Carolina, but the Super Tuesday states are 72 hours after that. I would expect him to do fairly well on ST; probably mostly thirds but still picking up delegates.

Klobuchar: Will probably win Minnesota on Super Tuesday, but basically her charges in Iowa and New Hampshire were too little, too late.

Warren (Not a moderate, but I included her because she is still in the race): Has a shot in her home state of Massachusetts, (although Bernie is likely to poach). Barring another health crisis for Sanders she's toast.

Keep in mind, that if there is actually a brokered convention (something I doubt, but it is certainly in the realm of possibility), then having delegates tied to your campaign gives you power at the convention.
 
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Money can buy you hours, but it can't buy you loyalty:

At one point, another organizer texted his friends, "Sam Donaldson just nailed it: Mike Bloomberg is the president we need to unite our country!" using the exact wording suggested by the Bloomberg campaign. He promptly followed up with a text reading, "Please disregard, vote Bernie or Warren."
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But note this last paragraph:

Both Sanders and Massachusetts senator Elizabeth Warren have proposed wealth taxes that would see billionaires like Bloomberg pay substantially more than they do now. So far, the $460 million the Bloomberg campaign has spent on ads, memes, influencers, and copy/paste promoters is a lot less than the $4.7 billion he would likely pay if Bernie Sanders became president.
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It's an interesting argument--that Bloomberg is trying to buy himself a tax cut by running, but note the magazine that is making the case: Gentleman's Quarterly. Apparently Teen Vogue is not the only fashion mag getting on the socialism bandwagon.
 
Curious about Bloomberg's debate performance tonight. I fully expect the entire stage will take turns just beating him bloody once again, but maybe he's developed a strategy since his bad performance in NV.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Curious about Bloomberg's debate performance tonight. I fully expect the entire stage will take turns just beating him bloody once again, but maybe he's developed a strategy since his bad performance in NV.
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They might just say, "You still here? I thought I told you to go and revoke those NDAs! Bing! Pow!"
 
angrysoba said:
They might just say, "You still here? I thought I told you to go and revoke those NDAs! Bing! Pow!"
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It's a bit annoying, because his isn't on any of the early ballots. We aren't seeing the payoff of low vote totals after getting kicked around like a soccer ball on live TV. He's not on the upcoming SC ballot either, so the there's really no clear indication that his public flogging is effectively countering his ad blitz.

Hopefully Super Tuesday is a disaster for him and he finally goes away.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
So many selective memories about the 2016 election in this forum. :rolleyes :


Have you forgotten or are you ignoring the fact Trump got hours and hours of free airtime?
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I haven't forgotten at all. In fact it's my point: There wasn't enough money in the world, for Hillary Clinton to buy the kind of campaign advantage Trump got for free just by being Trump.

Because electability doesn't actually scale with campaign spending.
 
Bloomberg's Paid “Volunteers” Are Telling Voters to Support Other Candidates

https://www.gq.com/story/bloomberg-copy-paste-warriors

At one point, another organizer texted his friends, "Sam Donaldson just nailed it: Mike Bloomberg is the president we need to unite our country!" using the exact wording suggested by the Bloomberg campaign. He promptly followed up with a text reading, "Please disregard, vote Bernie or Warren."
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:thumbsup:
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Curious about Bloomberg's debate performance tonight. I fully expect the entire stage will take turns just beating him bloody once again, but maybe he's developed a strategy since his bad performance in NV.
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The best thing is that even if he does develop a strategy they can just congratulate him for actually preparing for this debate, better late than never.
 
Loss Leader said:
Okay, I've decided. I'm an absolute no on Bloomberg.

If he wins the nomination, I'll vote for him. But I won't vote for him in the primaries. I'd vote for a BLT over Trump <snip!>
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I was inspired to order a pair of BLTs off-menu at my neighborhood watering hole. After that, you lost me. PWD?

The BLTs were delicious, by the way. If I could rely on them to nominate conservative judges, I'd vote the BLT ticket every time, no question.
 
Loss Leader said:
Okay, I've decided. I'm an absolute no on Bloomberg.

If he wins the nomination, I'll vote for him. But I won't vote for him in the primaries. I'd vote for a BLT over Trump but, you know, don't overcook the bacon. Because then it's like eating glass. And you get a shard right in the roof of your mouth. And don't even talk to me about mayo. Why do they put on so much mayo? And why is it always on the lettuce side so the lettuce is sliding around and the mayo is everywhere, and I've got a shard of bacon lodged in my eye and all I wanted was a cup of soup but everyone was having sandwiches so I don't want to be the schmuck that breaks that up, the bill comes and everybody's got an eight dollar sandwich and my soup is three ninety-nine. I don't see why I should suddenly have to subsidize everybody's goddamn sandwich and I'm the poor guy at the table. You have any idea what these other fakakte goyim make in an hour. They shtup the waitress a hundred dollars. And I'm not doing bad, I got a bissell gelt. But I'm not earning more interest eating a sandwich than most menchen make in a year. And the shvartzes, don't tell me about the shvartzes. Do you know what they pay just because they're shwoogies? Banks, the hair salons, the car dealers. Give the nebish a shot is all I'm asking. And I got this shiksa over here taking credit for my medicare program, and this fegulah with his centerest mishpuchah, and the Grand Rebbie of Brooklyn spending four hundred million to tell people I didn't put in for the sandwiches. Nicht mit der ads, already.
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Elizabeth Bruenig says it best:

If it's Trump vs Bloomberg, the only option on the ballot is "yes": to a false pretense of democracy, in which your consent -- which is alchemized into governmental legitimacy -- is extracted from you despite the fact that you have no choice, by aristocrats who hate you
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https://twitter.com/ebruenig/status/1231746843920474112

I will vote for any D nominee in the general election except Bloomberg. A vote between a plutocrat and a kleptocrat is not one I would personally grant legitimacy.
 
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TragicMonkey said:
I heard Bloomberg is actually three banks standing on each other's shoulders inside a trench coat.
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Interesting that Bloomberg is giving these closed door speeches to big banks when he's 100% self funded and not out panhandling for campaign funds.

Class consciousness for rich people, tedious partisanship for regular folks. The American way.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Elizabeth Bruenig says it best:



https://twitter.com/ebruenig/status/1231746843920474112

I will vote for any D nominee in the general election except Bloomberg. A vote between a plutocrat and a kleptocrat is not one I would personally grant legitimacy.
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"False pretense of democracy."

Apparently democracy doesn't count if you don't like any of the people who volunteered to put themselves up for consideration as an elected representative.

Maybe our democracy would be less fake if Elizabeth Bruenig had volunteered herself, instead of crossing her fingers and hoping some better citizen would step forward? Or if the state had forced her to run, for the greater good?
 
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