Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 19

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Delphic Oracle said:
The groups not given public funds who were rated as more reliable, effective, and deserving of those funds.

Perhaps go back and read the story again.
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A September 12 internal DOJ memo recommended that the grant money go to the Catholic Charities of the Diocese of Palm Beach and Chicanos Por La Causa of Phoenix, according to an exclusive report by Reuters. The recommendations were based on reviews from outside contractors. Instead, the grant money went to two organizations the contractors gave lower ratings: Hookers for Jesus and the Lincoln Tubman Foundation.

The funding decision was made in order to "distribute funding across as many states as possible," according to a September 23 memo obtained by Reuters. Head of the Office of Justice Programs, Katharine Sullivan, approved the decision, telling Reuters, "Our funding decisions are based on a merit-based review system."
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Catholic Charities has an obsessive pro-choice policy. Does that mean any pregnant prostitutes who want an abortion need to go elsewhere? Yes. And Catholics are still against birth control.:rolleyes:

Chicanos Por La Causa of Phoenix appears to only have outpatient services.

Hookers for Jesus is a Christian organization founded by former sex worker and sex trafficking victim Annie Lobert in 2007. The organization operates Destiny House, a one-year safehouse program for sex-trafficking victims and women who want to leave sex work, as well as a number of other outreach programs.
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Who were the outside contractors who made the recommendation?

I'm the last person who would support Bush's Faith Based grants. But anti-abortion vs anti-gay... and the inpatient treatment program vs only outpatient... It's not as clear cut as you make it out to be.
 
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Cain said:
...Moreover, a high percentage of people who say they do not like Trump, or disapprove of Trump, are only saying those things because it's what people around them are saying. They're low-information voters not necessarily wedded to that view...
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You can turn that around and speculate that a certain percentage of Trump supporters have become disillusioned with him but don't say that because the people around them are all pro-Trump.

The other night I read a Tweet by a woman who supports Trump 100%. Laurie somebody. There was a link to her Facebook page. This is a middle-aged white woman from the mid-West who seems to mostly repeat over and over that "Trump is making America great again and it is about time! And he is keeping America great, too."

But she doesn't say anything about how he's doing it/done it. In fact, my hunch is she probably couldn't explain how.

Her Facebook friends were exalting her because comments she's made on Twitter about how great Trump is, or how evil the Democrats are, had been retweeted twice by president Trump. One of them wrote, "President Trump loves Laurie as much as we do!" Only why do they love her? Because she is all in for Trump? I wondered if these people had ever met in person. Or if their relationship begins and ends on Twitter and Facebook.

Strange times.
 
newyorkguy said:
You can turn that around and speculate that a certain percentage of Trump supporters have become disillusioned with him but don't say that because the people around them are all pro-Trump.
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Just like any other cult. You've realised you've been duped, but leaving would lose you your loved ones and your network.
 
newyorkguy said:
You can turn that around and speculate that a certain percentage of Trump supporters have become disillusioned with him but don't say that because the people around them are all pro-Trump.
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I'd expect most Republicans in Congress to say they don't like or approve of the way Trump handles most things, but it's almost inconceivable they would vote for a Democrat. Before the 2016 election, many people expressed disgust with Trump's grab 'em comments about women, but they went ahead and voted for him anyway.

I also think there's a significant difference between people on Twitter -- for or against the president -- and someone who is fence-sitting. The fence-sitters' vague outlook is shaped by what their friends post on social media -- "gee, it sounds like Trump IS an idiot doing bad things" -- but they won't pay much attention until October. Issues matter less and less in an era of identity politics.

The Lauries of the world, if they become disillusioned at all, will not wake up until well into Trump's second term. The same sort of thing happened with Bush Jr (a president who even managed to secure the popular vote in his re-election). The people commenting about politics on social media are a different breed than regular voters.
 
Trump Retweeted

Senate Republicans @SenateGOP On the Senate Floor, Chairman @SenJohnBarrasso:

A Socialist is now the front-runner for the Democrat nomination for president.
Socialist policies would bankrupt our country.
What's their top priority?
A complete government takeover of health care in America.

REMINDER
In killing Soleimani, @realdonaldtrump eliminated a terrorist mastermind who had been responsible for more American military deaths than *anyone else* alive.
It was a calculated and limited response that undoubtedly made America—and the world—a safer place.

This February, we celebrate #BlackHistoryMonth to honor the successes, contributions, and advancements of African Americans throughout our nation’s history.
The United States has been, and will always be, immeasurably strengthened by the African American community.
 
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Trump Tweets

Thank you to @JackBrewerBSI for your kind words on the great progress we have made on our powerful African-American Agenda. For one, lowest unemployment numbers in USA history. Many other great records!
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Years ago the Democrats had the money to build the Wall, but they didn’t have any idea how to get it done. I am building it bigger and better than ever thought possible!
 
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Delphic Oracle said:
Horse.

****.

I'll immediately dismiss half of the "help" as not being motivated to help but being motivated to recruit. Helping the person isn't the goal, it's the means to a more self-serving end. Plus my time in that community showed me how much its about "look how helpful and godly I am!"

As to having more internal fundraising in place? Good, then they don't need public funds.

Let's release the funds to whoever is most successful and needs the most support. Oh look, by your own description that's the secular groups.

Less effective methods receiving more spontaneous resources to work with is not an argument to give even more resources to that less effective method. Plus it is entirely fair to say that while they might do some good work in a specific task, it is worth asking what negative consequences arise in other matters of "whole person care."



I'll grant you there's some qualitative differences in "pushing for it" and "quietly going along with it," but it wouldn't have happened without both. So pox on both their houses.
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We found this in the UK, the RC "adoption agencies" said they would stop being adoption agencies if they had to treat same sex couples as the same as non same sex couples in regards to being suitable parents.
 
One perspective on Trump's recent antics:
Folks, let's not mince words: This is the kind of stuff we read about happening in dictatorships like Russia and North Korea and Iran. And yes, it's the kind of rule by strong-arm fiat that was practiced by Adolf Hitler in Nazi Germany.

Before this week, I would have thought it an exaggeration to compare Trump's frequent rallies to the infamous Nuremberg rallies Hitler held during the1930s. No longer. Trump's rallies are unnervingly close to those held in Nuremberg. The MAGA hat has become a kind of Trumpian Nazi helmet. The denunciations of hated minorities are the same. As is his insane bellowing before a crowd screaming its slavish obeisance.
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https://www.salon.com/2020/02/15/ca...-fact-that-trump-is-behaving-like-a-dictator/
 
Trump Tweets

Last week the Fake News said that a section of our powerful, under construction, Southern Border Wall “fell over”, trying to make it sound terrible, except the reason was that the concrete foundation was just poured & soaking wet when big winds kicked in. Quickly fixed “forever”.
 
A bit of an update from the WaPo.

Senior Justice officials rejected the recommendations of career officials and decided to deny grants to highly rated Catholic Charities in Palm Beach, Fla., and Chicanos Por La Causa in Phoenix. Instead, Reuters reported, they gave more than $1 million combined to lower-rated groups called the Lincoln Tubman Foundation and Hookers for Jesus.

Why? Well, it turns out the head of the Catholic Charities affiliate had been active with Democrats, and the Phoenix group had opposed President Trump's immigration policies. By contrast, Hookers for Jesus run by a Christian conservative, and the Lincoln Tubman group launched by a relative of a Trump delegate to the 2016 convention." (1)
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That sure looks like corruption in action to me.

In other news...

Tentatively, Trump plans to take a lap at the Daytona 500 in the presidential limo

I don't watch NASCAR (or pretty much any sport), myself, but... this just seems like it's... crass, arrogant, and disrespectful.
 
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