Bloomberg for President?

lomiller said:
This makes no sense. He can’t run as a Republican unless he wins the primary and replaces Trump as the Republicans candidate. Even if the Republican primary this year wasn’t a simple rubber-stamping of Trump, where no one else is even allowed on the ballot in many states, there would be almost no chance of him winning the Republican primary because he’s a mainstream Democrat, not a Republican.
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I thought it was clear that I was talking about running in the primaries. I know he can't win in the GOP primaries but I don't see any evidence that he can win in the Dem primaries either. All I think he will end up doing is weakening whoever he runs against in the primary, therefore, I want him to run in the GOP primaries rather than the Dem primary.

It would also make it a lot harder to explain why no one else is allowed on the ballot.
 
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Distracted1 said:
I am not so sure we will lose minority votes.
In fact, doesn't Bloomberg poll second only to Biden with minorities currently?
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Not sure about all minorities, but yes, he is currently polling behind Biden (and ahead of Sanders) in the African American demographic.

https://theweek.com/speedreads/895155/bloomberg-jumps-2nd-among-black-democrats-biden-falls-new-poll
Biden's support among black Democrats dropped to 27 percent in the new poll, from 51 percent in December. And it appears that much of that support shifted to Bloomberg, who jumped to 22 percent support among black voters, followed by Sanders (19 percent), Warren (8 percent), and former Mayor Pete Buttigieg (4 percent).

Strange that a mayor that maintained such a racist policy would get so much support from black voters. A few possibilities:

- Maybe many black voters were simply unaware of this particular issue. After all, it was an issue centered primarily on New York, and voters in other states may not have even been aware it was happening

- Maybe they accepted his apology as genuine. Yes, the timing of it was questionable (coming right before he entered the race), but it was well-scripted

- Maybe its a strategic thing... they may not totally believe Bloomberg, but they really really hate Trump, and they think Bloomberg has the best chance at defeating Stubby McBonespurs in the next election.
 
Segnosaur said:
Strange that a mayor that maintained such a racist policy would get so much support from black voters. A few possibilities:
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And another possibility from the article I just cited is that that isn't the only policy he has that black voters care about.
 
lomiller said:
The SEC has always been much more likely to targeted rich white men with it’s investigations. Likewise this is the group the IRS is most likely to target with an audit.
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You would think so, but you might be wrong.

IRS targets Wealth-Depleted Southern Black Belt

IRS Targets Poor, Mostly Black Rural Counties

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By comparison, counties around the U.S. with the lowest audit rates tend to have higher incomes and a population that's mostly white. Denali, Alaska, with the lowest audit rate of all U.S. counties, is 84 percent white and has a median household income of more than $83,000, according to Census Data.
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carlitos said:
You would think so, but you might be wrong.

IRS targets Wealth-Depleted Southern Black Belt

IRS Targets Poor, Mostly Black Rural Counties
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The people the IRS scrutinize most intensely are the ones who make the most money. This outweighs any other bias, and since this group tends to be older, male and very white, it’s inevitable that this group receives the most attention.

It would not surprise me in the least of African Americans are targeted more often after you adjust for everything, but that wasn’t my point. The point I was making is that even if a policy is reasonable it does not mean it’s carried out fairly.
 
Segnosaur said:
Not sure about all minorities, but yes, he is currently polling behind Biden (and ahead of Sanders) in the African American demographic.

https://theweek.com/speedreads/895155/bloomberg-jumps-2nd-among-black-democrats-biden-falls-new-poll
Biden's support among black Democrats dropped to 27 percent in the new poll, from 51 percent in December. And it appears that much of that support shifted to Bloomberg, who jumped to 22 percent support among black voters, followed by Sanders (19 percent), Warren (8 percent), and former Mayor Pete Buttigieg (4 percent).

Strange that a mayor that maintained such a racist policy would get so much support from black voters. A few possibilities:

- Maybe many black voters were simply unaware of this particular issue. After all, it was an issue centered primarily on New York, and voters in other states may not have even been aware it was happening

- Maybe they accepted his apology as genuine. Yes, the timing of it was questionable (coming right before he entered the race), but it was well-scripted

- Maybe its a strategic thing... they may not totally believe Bloomberg, but they really really hate Trump, and they think Bloomberg has the best chance at defeating Stubby McBonespurs in the next election.
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-Maybe many see it as a good idea to attempt to reduce crime in high-crime neighborhoods with largely minority populations, even.
 
lomiller said:
The people the IRS scrutinize most intensely are the ones who make the most money.
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Nothing was adjusted. Read the links.

Little Humphreys County --home to fewer than 10,000 residents and known for its catfish farming -- is one of eight counties in Mississippi that comprise the 10 most highly audited U.S. counties, with the other two located in Louisiana and Alabama.

The analysis indicates that the IRS targets certain geographic regions more than others because the residents of certain regions are more likely to use the EITC, such as the South, where residents tend to be poorer than in the Northeast.

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But the audit rates for people who claim the EITC hasn't fallen as sharply as for the rich and corporations, ProPublica reported in December. That means a typical EITC claimant, who earns less than $20,000 per year, is more likely to face an audit than a millionaire.
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Because of spending IRS spending cuts, audit rates for millionaires have declined by half since 2010. Corporate audits are also on the wane.
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Can we all agree that we ought to at least stop with the 2+ years of campaigning? Would any of you have predicted that Pete and Amy* would be in the lead after New Hampshire and Iowa?

*I think most of us would at least have guessed Bernie would be in the top two or three. Also, from now on, I'm going to strictly use first names because I can't spell Pete or Amy's last names. Also, my wife has a couple of good friends named Pete and Amy who just had a kid together.
 
carlitos said:
You know who else is using a multi-pronged approach? Zip Recruiter. I'm serious, they are the best. I found my ideal candidate using Zip Recruiter in only a couple of days, whereas my last search with those other websites took months and we had to fire the guy eventually.
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I could be wrong, but after you have saturated the airwaves and the interwebs with your name and brand, does even more spending improve your chances?

I can't rule it out, and of course companies like the above spend a lot of money promoting themselves because it works, and it may be that being told over and over again who to vote for might end up being the most effective strategy.

That said, it seems a bit like that would put me off after a while. I would get sick of the saturation coverage.
 
For all this talk about "Bernie or Bust" folks and "vote blue no matter who", Bloomberg is the one candidate I see with the most potential for fracturing the party and handing Trump another win.

It's no secret that the most strident Bernie supporters don't have warm feelings for centrists like Pete or Klobuchar, but that doesn't even compare to the utter contempt that the left wing of the party has for Bloomberg, the plutocrat candidate. Bernie is popular because he refuses to take big money donations and relies on the support of the common people. Bloomberg is the polar opposite, a billionaire using his own wealth to buy his way into the race. Bloomberg, more so than any other candidate, is a repudiation of the left wing's core values.

For all the panic mongering about disloyal Bernie supporters not voting blue, I see Bloomberg as the most likely candidate to actually make it come true. Replacing a kleptocrat multi-millionaire with a plutocratic billionaire may not be sufficient motivation for left-wingers to turn out in high numbers.
 
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SuburbanTurkey said:
Bernie is popular because he refuses to take big money donations and relies on the support of the common people. Bloomberg is the polar opposite, a billionaire using his own wealth to buy his way into the race.
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Or you could say that Bernie is spending the money of other people, who are all poorer than him, to fund his campaign, while Bloomberg is putting his own money where his mouth is and remaining free of anyone having a financial influence over his campaign.
 
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PhantomWolf said:
Or you could say that Bernie is spending the money of other people, who are all poorer than him, to fund his campaign, while Bloomberg is putting his own money where his mouth is and remaining free of anyone having a financial influence over his campaign.
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How kind of Bloomberg to relieve the common people of the burdensome duty of being involved in the political process.

He is a kind and generous master.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
How kind of Bloomberg to relieve the common people of the burdensome duty of being involved in the political process.

He is a kind and generous master.
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I guess you prefer to let Politicians spend your money to get themselves elected?
 
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