Sinn Fein Wins Irish Election

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Okay, maybe not an "outright" win, but they are the party with the most votes.

Now that they have won more than anyone else, they will try to form a coalition, but that could be difficult as Sinn Fein comes with a lot of baggage.

Sinn Féin president Mary Lou McDonald has described the Irish general election as "something of a revolution in the ballot box".

Counting is continuing and the first results have come in, with Sinn Féin winning the most first preference votes.

With all first preferences counted, it has 24.5% compared to 22.2% for Fianna Fáil and 20.9% for Fine Gael.

No one party will win enough seats for an outright majority.

Before the election, both Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil ruled out forming a government with Sinn Féin, citing its tax policies and IRA past as deterrents.

On Sunday evening taoiseach (Irish PM) and Fine Gael leader Leo Varadkar said it would be "challenging" to form a government.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51432660
 
Not bad for an organisation that was a terrorist group well in my lifetime.
 
angrysoba said:
Okay, maybe not an "outright" win, but they are the party with the most votes.

Now that they have won more than anyone else, they will try to form a coalition, but that could be difficult as Sinn Fein comes with a lot of baggage.



https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51432660
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It's a 'win' in the same way Hillary Clinton 'won' the US presidency in 2016. It is quite likely that SF won't be the largest party in the Dáil, and they will have to put together a multi party coalition to govern, or get into bed with FF or FG, which won't go down well with their supporters.

Having said that, it's a huge increase in popularity for them, and will make politics here more interesting in the next few years.
 
Being judged by your predecessors and the history of your party are the consequences of not making a break with the past.
 
One man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter.

What's the perception of the IRA and Sinn Fein among the Irish these days?
 
angrysoba said:
was?

"They haven't gone away you know!"
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Irish terrorist attack make big news over here, thanks to a common British heritage of 60% of the population, and there's been very few terrorist actions that I've noticed this century.

rockysmith76 said:
sorta similar to the role Hezbola took on in Lebanon
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I think Hezbollah are still in charge of the rockets, though.

ponderingturtle said:
Like the ANC. Nothing fundamentally wrong with a good bombing campaign.
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Perfect analogy.
 
The Atheist said:
Irish terrorist attack make big news over here, thanks to a common British heritage of 60% of the population, and there's been very few terrorist actions that I've noticed this century.







I think Hezbollah are still in charge of the rockets, though.







Perfect analogy.
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There's been a lot, police officers and prison officers targeted, bombs, shootings you name it.

Eta I did a Google search "northern ireland terrorism 2010" nice summary paper BBC News - Northern Ireland-terrorism 'increasing threat' to Britain
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-14123147


https://scholar.google.com/scholar?...&q=related:Sqod2Ex7wtTY3M:scholar.google.com/
 
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The Atheist said:
Not bad for an organisation that was a terrorist group well in my lifetime.
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Its essentially true of all of the Irish Political parties, if you are over 100 years old anyway.

Nessie said:
A united Ireland moves another step closer.
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Not sure how. There's definitely no way the Unionist northerners would join up with a Republic governed by the Sinn Fein.
 
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The Atheist said:
Irish terrorist attack make big news over here, thanks to a common British heritage of 60% of the population, and there's been very few terrorist actions that I've noticed this century.



I think Hezbollah are still in charge of the rockets, though.



Perfect analogy.
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True but they did become part of the political process to so there are some similarities.
 
ahhell said:
Its essentially true of all of the Irish Political parties, if you are over 100 years old anyway.

Not sure how. There's definitely no way the Unionist northerners would join up with a Republic governed by the Sinn Fein.
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All Sinn Fein are doing is promoting support for and waiting for a sufficient majority to vote for a united Ireland.

If enough people vote to unite Ireland, the Unionists would hopefully accept the result.
 
Nessie said:
All Sinn Fein are doing is promoting support for and waiting for a sufficient majority to vote for a united Ireland.

If enough people vote to unite Ireland, the Unionists would hopefully accept the result.
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Don't know much Irish History, do you?
 
Guybrush Threepwood said:
It's a 'win' in the same way Hillary Clinton 'won' the US presidency in 2016. It is quite likely that SF won't be the largest party in the Dáil, and they will have to put together a multi party coalition to govern, or get into bed with FF or FG, which won't go down well with their supporters.

Having said that, it's a huge increase in popularity for them, and will make politics here more interesting in the next few years.
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Meh, protest voting by people with problem and lack of understanding. It happened before and it'll happen again.

Even if Fianna Fáil is desperate enough they'd need the Greens at least. The arrangement wouldn't last the year.
 
Nessie said:
All Sinn Fein are doing is promoting support for and waiting for a sufficient majority to vote for a united Ireland.

If enough people vote to unite Ireland, the Unionists would hopefully accept the result.
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:eek::boggled::eye-poppi:jaw-dropp:boxedin::covereyes
 
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