Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 19

[Stacyhs]

I think we all know that.

Then I don't understand your post saying "BTW, both Vindmans are in the military. Trump can't actually fire them." No one said he fired them from the military, just their roles as NSC advisors.

 

[Giz]

Trump Tweets

More Fake News. This was photoshopped, obviously, but the wind was strong and the hair looks good? Anything to demean! (picture of trump with orange face but white ears, neck and hairline)

A bit of background info I turned up:

 

[alfaniner]

As a avid Photoshop user myself, I say it certainly does look like the face was enhanced or even a complete fake plastered on badly. Of course, that may just be the reality.

I'm always irritated when for these kinds of stories, only a couple photos are supplied. There should be dozens to refer to, not to mention, actual video of each event.

 

[a_unique_person]

Apparently an iPhone picture manipulation option. The unaltered photos are only slightly less flattering.

 

[Craig4]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/08/politics/us-afghanistan-operation-under-fire/index.html

Not for nothing, but if the Stupid Bitch in Chief hadn't gutted the National Security Council, he might have been told that the Taliban are playing him like a fiddle with their peace talks. I say been told because the **** is obviously not smart enough to figure this out on his own.

 

[SezMe]

Sadly, this is good advice. I sincerely hope it never comes to that, but if it does, one should be prepared. And get proper training in its use and storage, and keep it, and ammunition, well locked and hidden in case of burglary.

This is really, really bad advice. If it comes to violence and the National Guard sees you with a gun, especially if you're using it, they will bring some heavy hands to your doorstep. Battering ram. Flash grenades. Smoke bombs. Vicious dogs. Robots. Helicopters. Noise machines and lights to keep you from sleeping. Etc.

You mini-armory in the basement will kill you, not save you.

 

[Lurch]

In Churchill's monumental six-volume history of World War Two, he prefaced each with what he termed "The moral of the work".

In war: Resolution, In defeat: Defiance, In victory: Magnanimity, In peace: Goodwill.




Were Trump to offer his 'moral of the work'.

In War: Deceit, In defeat: Whataboutery, In Victory: Revenge, In Peace: Division.

 

[Stacyhs]

In Churchill's monumental six-volume history of World War Two, he prefaced each with what he termed "The moral of the work".

In war: Resolution, In defeat: Defiance, In victory: Magnanimity, In peace: Goodwill.




Were Trump to offer his 'moral of the work'.

In War: Deceit, In defeat: Whataboutery, In Victory: Revenge, In Peace: Division.

 

[a_unique_person]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/08/politics/us-afghanistan-operation-under-fire/index.html

Not for nothing, but if the Stupid Bitch in Chief hadn't gutted the National Security Council, he might have been told that the Taliban are playing him like a fiddle with their peace talks. I say been told because the **** is obviously not smart enough to figure this out on his own.

Just as long as it didn't happen in Benghazi it's all good.

 

[shemp]

This is really, really bad advice. If it comes to violence and the National Guard sees you with a gun, especially if you're using it, they will bring some heavy hands to your doorstep. Battering ram. Flash grenades. Smoke bombs. Vicious dogs. Robots. Helicopters. Noise machines and lights to keep you from sleeping. Etc.

You mini-armory in the basement will kill you, not save you.

Who the **** said anything about a mini-armory? In the event of an outright civil war or widespread violence, having a gun or two safely locked away in the event of an emergency is not bad advice for self defense. I do not presently own a gun, but if things do head in that direction, I will do so.

This does not mean that I'm a gun nut.

 

[BrooklynBaby]

This is really, really bad advice. If it comes to violence and the National Guard sees you with a gun, especially if you're using it, they will bring some heavy hands to your doorstep. Battering ram. Flash grenades. Smoke bombs. Vicious dogs. Robots. Helicopters. Noise machines and lights to keep you from sleeping. Etc.

You mini-armory in the basement will kill you, not save you.

LOL. The National Guard will be on our side.

 

[Craig4]

LOL. The National Guard will be on our side.

We are hard wired for a peaceful transition of power. The National Guard will ensure the results of the election will happen. Trump can say and order what he wants but in the end, the results of the Electoral College vote will be enforced. The government will change if the Dems get 270 votes. Trump can order the Executive agencies not to participate in the ceremony. He can refuse to attend the inauguration. But when the time comes, a faceless bureaucracy will change the government without regard to Trump's protestations.

 

[Craig4]

This is really, really bad advice. If it comes to violence and the National Guard sees you with a gun, especially if you're using it, they will bring some heavy hands to your doorstep. Battering ram. Flash grenades. Smoke bombs. Vicious dogs. Robots. Helicopters. Noise machines and lights to keep you from sleeping. Etc.

You mini-armory in the basement will kill you, not save you.

And you won't need it. While Trump's numbers might be slightly higher in the military than in the general population, they aren't in the betray your oath and follow a cult leader numbers. I'm endlessly frustrated by the way hardly anyone here reads subtlety. On the 4th of July, how many of the JCS were in attendance at Trump's "ceremony" at the Lincoln Memorial? They sent deputies. How was that message not deafening to you all? What makes you all think that these people will follow an order to keep a president who lost an election in power after they signal like that?

Does anyone really think that if Trump loses in November that his Trumptrash can put decisive, overwhelming force at a point in a theoretical battlespace that would stop the transfer of power? Maybe one of their kind could do an assassination but we have contingencies for that. Does anyone think that the DC National Guard will obey an order to keep Trump in Power? How about Virginia? Maryland?

 

[Steve]

A lot of mighty strange conversations are taking place as a result of Trump’s presidency. Your entire country needs to take a serious look at whether you still live in a properly functioning democracy.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

And you won't need it. While Trump's numbers might be slightly higher in the military than in the general population, they aren't in the betray your oath and follow a cult leader numbers. I'm endlessly frustrated by the way hardly anyone here reads subtlety. On the 4th of July, how many of the JCS were in attendance at Trump's "ceremony" at the Lincoln Memorial? They sent deputies. How was that message not deafening to you all? What makes you all think that these people will follow an order to keep a president who lost an election in power after they signal like that?

Does anyone really think that if Trump loses in November that his Trumptrash can put decisive, overwhelming force at a point in a theoretical battlespace that would stop the transfer of power? Maybe one of their kind could do an assassination but we have contingencies for that. Does anyone think that the DC National Guard will obey an order to keep Trump in Power? How about Virginia? Maryland?

He's fired everybody, all the Generals, now the colonels. Just about the only group still backing Trump beside the white nationalist minions are the GOP Senators. As for the minions, they look to be a lot of soldier wannabes who think marching with tiki torches is scary.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

A lot of mighty strange conversations are taking place as a result of Trump’s presidency. Your entire country needs to take a serious look at whether you still live in a properly functioning democracy.

Currently we are not, no discussion needed.

 

[BrooklynBaby]

We are hard wired for a peaceful transition of power. The National Guard will ensure the results of the election will happen. Trump can say and order what he wants but in the end, the results of the Electoral College vote will be enforced. The government will change if the Dems get 270 votes. Trump can order the Executive agencies not to participate in the ceremony. He can refuse to attend the inauguration. But when the time comes, a faceless bureaucracy will change the government without regard to Trump's protestations.

The idea that Trump will not transfer his office to the winner of the election is complete nonsense based on nothing, just like the Russia Hoax was nothing, emoluments was nothing, Kavanaugh was nothing, etc. My point was if there is ever a real reason our national militia needs to take up arms, the National Guard will be with us. The Democrats need to start thinking about how all of the lies about Trump 24/7 by them and their corrupt mainstream media action arm didn't prevent him from being elected, and the Impeachment Hoax made him more popular, not less. It's not just me knowing what we are hearing from them is nothing more than propaganda, but enough Americans to reelect him. I do feel sorry for the poor dupes who have allowed themselves to be brainwashed by fake news and our "educational" system.

 

[Lurch]

The idea that Trump will not transfer his office to the winner of the election is complete nonsense based on nothing, just like the Russia Hoax was nothing, emoluments was nothing, Kavanaugh was nothing, etc. My point was if there is ever a real reason our national militia needs to take up arms, the National Guard will be with us. The Democrats need to start thinking about how all of the lies about Trump 24/7 by them and their corrupt mainstream media action arm didn't prevent him from being elected, and the Impeachment Hoax made him more popular, not less. It's not just me knowing what we are hearing from them is nothing more than propaganda, but enough Americans to reelect him. I do feel sorry for the poor dupes who have allowed themselves to be brainwashed by fake news and our "educational" system.

Are you yourself not a product of your "educational system?" And how do you discriminate what is fake?

Is it really as simple as deciding that you possess a special perspicacity?

 

[Bob001]

The idea that Trump will not transfer his office to the winner of the election is complete nonsense based on nothing, just like the Russia Hoax was nothing, emoluments was nothing, Kavanaugh was nothing, etc. My point was if there is ever a real reason our national militia needs to take up arms, the National Guard will be with us. The Democrats need to start thinking about how all of the lies about Trump 24/7 by them and their corrupt mainstream media action arm didn't prevent him from being elected, and the Impeachment Hoax made him more popular, not less. It's not just me knowing what we are hearing from them is nothing more than propaganda, but enough Americans to reelect him. I do feel sorry for the poor dupes who have allowed themselves to be brainwashed by fake news and our "educational" system.

If the "mainstream media" is nothing but lies and fake news, what are your sources of information about the world?

And if Trump is defeated, he might not refuse to accept it. But he can do enormous damage between Election Day and the inauguration, and after beating his impeachment there is no mechanism to stop him.

 

[Stacyhs]

He's fired everybody, all the Generals, now the colonels. Just about the only group still backing Trump beside the white nationalist minions are the GOP Senators. As for the minions, they look to be a lot of soldier wannabes who think marching with tiki torches is scary.

No, he hasn't. As you said yourself earlier, Trump cannot fire someone from the military. As I stated, he can only fire those who are appointed to positions by presidential appointment like NSC advisors.