2020 Democratic Candidates Tracker Part III

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Seems like the biggest headline here is that Biden performed awful. Can't be good for his brand as the electable frontrunner.
 
Still 62%?

Maybe global warming affected the carrier pigeons' navigation abilities.

ETA: Is it conceivable that, since things were screwed up anyway, that they decided to hold back results until after the SOTU to try and steal a news cycle? I just can't imagine how they haven't managed to get any more precincts in for the last three hours.
 
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Tero said:
It's a funny business the judge at Supreme Court job. They may be partisan but still think the constitution guides them. Just reversing Roe vs Wade is what they would do, and that just throws this issue back to states. Each state could allow or ban abortion, since it then is no longer an issue covered by right to privacy.
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Perhaps slightly off-topic, but at least 4/9 of the current SCOTUS would not only overturn Roe V Wade but happily accede to the "Party of Small Government" creating federal law to overrule the states.
They would also happily accept a federal law to declare the death penalty for fags like mayor Pete.
 
Meadmaker said:
Still 62%?

Maybe global warming affected the carrier pigeons' navigation abilities.

ETA: Is it conceivable that, since things were screwed up anyway, that they decided to hold back results until after the SOTU to try and steal a news cycle? I just can't imagine how they haven't managed to get any more precincts in for the last three hours.
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Government employees?
 
Whoa! Insane downward movement in the London bookies' market on Joe Biden, along with upward surges for Warren and Buttigieg. And Bernie is about 20 points clear of of Biden and the rest.
 
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Meadmaker said:
Still 62%?

Maybe global warming affected the carrier pigeons' navigation abilities.

ETA: Is it conceivable that, since things were screwed up anyway, that they decided to hold back results until after the SOTU to try and steal a news cycle? I just can't imagine how they haven't managed to get any more precincts in for the last three hours.
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I suspect that they're just being slower, as a general matter, given that they're using a backup method that they weren't expecting to need to use, hopefully while still having the results being prepared so that there will be as much transparency and verifiability as possible, especially given the pointed concerns of a vocal minority (concerns that are pointedly being stoked by unfriendly forces, no less). Either way, they'll likely end up reporting the rest in bulk in the next day or two, depending on the specific circumstances. I'm not particularly impatient, myself. Still, as a gay man, it is nice to see Buttigieg currently leading, even if I strongly prefer for Warren to actually win.
 
Meadmaker said:
Still 62%?
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As of 2:30 AM, they are up to 71% reporting.

Buttigieg and Sanders are still tied with 10 delegates, Warren with 4 and Biden with 0.

That actually gives me hope. While my first choice probably would have been Booker, I think Warren might be OK. The fact that she wasn't shut out of Iowa gives me hope that her campaign isn't on life support.
 
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Centrist wing needs to settle on a candidate soon or they risk going into the the convention with their votes split. Meanwhile Bernie's support base is rock solid and likely will be very consistent, if not grows as his strong performance puts the lie to the "unelectable" smear.

All indications are Pete is going to have a hard time with black voters in the South. I can easily see Biden getting a strong finish, then faltering in other states. Pete may rise and fall, then maybe Warren or someone else will take a turn as the temporary favorite.

Meanwhile Bernie will be steadily piling up delegates.
 
Cabbage said:
Think of it this way: Progressives support Sanders because, being progressives, they tend to be lefter leaning. I never said that dudalb thought Sanders would lose the general simply because he was supported by progressives; you'd have to be a moron to think the causal relation was that simple
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Oh, really? Let's read back, shall we?

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And my point: Pointing out he's popular in the progressive wing in the Democratic party does not mean he will lose the general.
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(a few posts later)

I don't remember him saying anything like that. I suppose it'd be pointless to ask you to quote him?

Let me save you some time: if you think "progressive candidates do more poorly in the general" is saying "if a candidate does well with progressive voters he will lose", then the issue isn't with dudalb.
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Belz... said:
He said nothing about his popularity among progressives. I think you're just adding connections and implications where none exist.
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Oh really? You think he has some other reason to believe Sanders would lose?
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Notice the two contradictory highlights? If you've changed your mind, that's fine, but don't pretend that this wasn't exactly your claim about dudalb's posts.

QED, and I am done with this nonsense.
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Sure you are.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Centrist wing needs to settle on a candidate soon or they risk going into the the convention with their votes split. Meanwhile Bernie's support base is rock solid and likely will be very consistent, if not grows as his strong performance puts the lie to the "unelectable" smear.

All indications are Pete is going to have a hard time with black voters in the South. I can easily see Biden getting a strong finish, then faltering in other states. Pete may rise and fall, then maybe Warren or someone else will take a turn as the temporary favorite.

Meanwhile Bernie will be steadily piling up delegates.
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He's too socialist to get through a General Election. It's not a smear, it's the painful truth for lefties. These are the same folks who have pinned hopes on similar from McGovern on, with consistent results.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Centrist wing needs to settle on a candidate soon or they risk going into the the convention with their votes split. Meanwhile Bernie's support base is rock solid and likely will be very consistent, if not grows as his strong performance puts the lie to the "unelectable" smear.

All indications are Pete is going to have a hard time with black voters in the South. I can easily see Biden getting a strong finish, then faltering in other states. Pete may rise and fall, then maybe Warren or someone else will take a turn as the temporary favorite.

Meanwhile Bernie will be steadily piling up delegates.
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I think Biden has one more chance in New Hampshire. If he wins or is at least a solid second to Bernie, he can claim to be that centrist.

If not, he was the front-runner who, it turned out, didn't actually have any appeal. He's this year's Jeb Bush.
 
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