Delphic Oracle
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What if, nah it...I mean, maybe.
Uhm, what if...*hoarse whisper* Todd Bergun was wrong? *snaps head around suspiciously as footsteps are suddenly heard trailing away*.
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What if, nah it...I mean, maybe.
Uhm, what if...*hoarse whisper* Todd Bergun was wrong? *snaps head around suspiciously as footsteps are suddenly heard trailing away*.
Bubba neglected to provide a link. Probably an oversight.
Your slip is showing. You may have over-sighted the link in posts 1797 and 1798, and several posts in the other thread which turingtest linked to?
If you are actually interested in confirming the conversation by hearing it in the video at the link, more than taking pot shots about the link....here is the link
For your convenience, here is the link again:
'If you overlooked it, here it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL6Gn9IkVzU
Be sure and let us know your impression of the on air conversation at the link
Do tell us if after you watch it, are you curious as to why the Burgun conversation was cut off after the exchange posted above, and again below, for your convenience...?
You might wonder if the conversation went on to ending stuff like "Thank you, goodbye".
There was another report that said Burgun went on to mention that JFK Jr mentioned to controllers he planned to continue to Hyannis after dropping a passenger at Marthas Vineyard...
Some guy who certainly was not a first-hand witness said something that's explicitly contradicted in the official report. You have not come close to casting doubt on the official report, which is the first of many steps to support the claim that there was foul play of any kind involved in the crash ... which in its turn is the first of many steps to support the claim that this had anything at all to do with Hillary Clinton.
You have a long way to go to make this pig fly, so to speak, and you haven't even started yet. I'll not hold my breath.
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None of that information would be useful to a flight controller. It would be unprofessional to clog up ATC by broadcasting such information.
They care where you are going right now and what is in between you and where you're going. They will care about the leg to Hyannis when MV departure control hands them over.
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Bubba's whole focus here, as in that other thread,* seems to be on the aftermath of the plane crash- IIRC (can't be bothered to go look), he even conceded that the posited cause of the crash, spatial disorientation on JFK Jr's part, was a reasonable finding. So, unless the conspiracy was "we'll wait until Jr crashes his plane, and take advantage of that by making sure any rescue efforts are too late," it's hard to understand what the point is.
*And, unless Bubba can tie all this to the Qanon thing, that other thread is where all this properly belongs anyway.
*And, unless Bubba can tie all this to the Qanon thing, that other thread is where all this properly belongs anyway.
You clicked on the link ?
The highlited part doesnt sound like they are talking about radar.
to the best of your information JFK Jr made a contact with the airport, with the flight controllers
The conversation starts at 19:39 and is a minute or two long.
and again the conversation is incomplete. It cuts before "Thank you, goodbye."
The point of mentioning that was regrding a report which said the small talk with controllers about dropping a passenger, was part of "JFK Jr's communication with controllers", either passed on by Burgun during the (cut short) tv report, or from the grapevine on Martha's Vineyard. There were other reports on Martha's Vineyard, like a fisherman seeing a flash in the sky at the time and place of the crash.
Controllers are usually pilots. JFK JR probably talked to night shift controllers on previous after workday flights to MV. Controllers are known to include some small talk with pilots, sometimes. It was not a busy place or time, in the FAA system.
I've been told that pilots and controllers on matching schedules and locations get to know each other, a little, and engage in small talk.
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Yes the claim is about that, and however, that also hinges on the tv reporter's conversation with Burgun, ie it is about the crash itself, and the aftermath.
Sounds like you never watched Hankey's video either.
The moment of the crash, ie from the tv report, and the resulting concerns of the reporters distrustingly questioning Roark at the pentagon the next day, and the aftermath of the crash are all tied together.
The reporters at the pentagon had the tv report, and they knew the plane was on radar diving straight down at 9:40 PM the night before. They were faced with (expert) Roark searching a hundred miles away, saying 'radar only gives a last known position', while everyone knew JFK Jr disappeared on radar a stone's throw from his destination, at the correct expected hour and location for final approach, as Burgun indicated with: "...Warnick:..JFK Jr made a contact with the airport, with the flight controllers....the traffic controllers at Martha's Vineyard airport, that he was on a final descent.....Burgun: That is correct..."
I thought you knew all that. Apparently you have not availed yourself of the video which also includes certain official info Hankey uses to make his case.
....and yes it is part of the Qanon thing as well.
Well well, look what shows up on the right hand side of a youtube video on an unrelated video.....no surprise, I had been looking for JFK Jr info earlier. Google knows...
JFK Jr. Rare TV Interview in 1998 (a year before his death) (Jay Leno)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_zQO9l4n-E
JFK Jr. Rare TV Interview in 1998 (a year before his death) (Jay Leno)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_zQO9l4n-E
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You still haven't explained why JFK Jr. (who's a Kennedy™) would have joined the likes of Qanon had he lived.
OK, so what?
The conversation is incomplete because the producer of a conspiracy youtube video cut it off so that he could make his own point about what we are supposed to interpret from this interview. Again, so what?
Will Trump be frogmarching the globalists into jail sooner or later based on this years-old video editing?
Sounds like you're not getting the significance of the clip mentioning a contact at 9:39 PM near the airport, even if it is cut off, and how do we know who cut it off? See posts 1803, 1849, 1850.
Years ago I called the media archive in New England, seeking the news clip. The guy said that cut off clip is what they have. He knew because he had received other inquiries. Apparently the conspiracy video guy did not do the cutting.
Also the pentagon press briefing transcript with Roark lying about the radar is no longer on the us gov website where I found it back then. there also was audio of the same briefing I cannot find now.
Strange that there are two versions of your post. I guess when I clicked on quote, it pulled up version before/after you corrected something?
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It's a coverup.
Please, Bubba, get to the bottom of this for us. We need your proven deductive reasoning on this.
Thread Title - QAnon conspiracy theories.
Bubba - some interview about a plane crash is cut off.
carlitos - I'm the one not getting the significance? Spell it out, already. Trump is going to mass-arrest the pedophile DemonCrats on which day of this month / year / century? What QAnon thing is happening today, in 2020, due to your BS about some old plane crash?
Bubba - some interview about a plane crash is cut off.
carlitos - I'm the one not getting the significance? Spell it out, already. Trump is going to mass-arrest the pedophile DemonCrats on which day of this month / year / century? What QAnon thing is happening today, in 2020, due to your BS about some old plane crash?
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I'm not really sure what Bubba is on about, but there is a faction of the Qanon conspiracy crowd that think JFK jr is very much alive and involved in the fight against the deep state. They think he has been living in hiding for these last couple decades and will reveal himself at some pivotal moment.
Other parts of the Q-community think that JFK Jr. is just another example of the Clinton Body Count and is just more proof of the ruthlessness of the Clintons and other deep state elites.
Dont play dumb...maybe try setting aside the Trump distraction.
I said "...the significance of the reported 9:39 communication with M V controllers.."
Radio or radar...no matter. They knew where he was at 9:39P....about nine hours before they began searching far far away..
What I'm on about is:
Radio or radar...no matter. They knew where he was at 9:39P....about nine hours before they began searching far far away..
The only association with Q is that Q refers to deep state assassinations, and that Trump was pals with JFK Jr. Trump now probably knows more than most do about JFK Jr's death.
"Faction" may be a COINTEL type operation ie goons show up and insert some sillycrazy to discredit a group, or cause splits in a group. (it works)
Q never says or encourages that stuff. AFAIK about Q's mentioning John John is that John John and Donald Trump were pals, which seems verified in pics of them hanging out together, and saying the truth will come out.
Q does support the anti-deep state sentiment, recalling Ike's warning us of the nascent Deep State ie the Military Industrial Complex.
Then JFK Jr publishes his magazne 'George' featuring articles on political assassinations. Hhhmm...
In his video Hankey speculates that W, not Hillary was behind it. Golden Boy John John would have defeated either one of them in politics.
IMHO, Hankey should not have speculated about whodunit.
Hankey did more than enough by showing USAF Roark lying and searching a hundred miles away, while he had the radar showing the dive at final approach position, hours before the reporters in Pentagon briefing room were telling him they knew about the radar showing the dive hours ago.
If you swallow 'Top Search Expert' Roark's replies to reporters when he and his top notch USAF team had the radar for hours, and while the reporters were telling him they knew about the radar, and you still havent watched Hankey's video, I have a bridge to sell you. Example:
All you gotta do is watch Hankey's video...probably the first 40 minutes is enough.
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