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The Trump Presidency: Part 18
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ponderingturtle
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Why would a little Tax fraud matter? All his other crimes don't, why would that suddenly matter?
I can see Guilani now saying how all rich people cheat on their taxes, and it isn't anything to hold against Trump.
The Great Zaganza
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Look out for Trump pardoning his IRS auditors.
Skeptic Ginger
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Of course, the infamous I have proof, I'll be holding a press conference in two weeks to prove it.
plague311
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I wonder how involved they were, or even why they would bother. They had to know that this was going to be an eventual loss.
ponderingturtle
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Delay Delay Delay make the other guy run up his bills. That seems to be SOP for Trump, why should he suddenly show long term thinking? Has he ever demonstrated anything like long term thinking on anything?
Segnosaur
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In this case, the benefit doesn't seem to be "run up the other guy's bills", but more "run out the clock". The more delays, the less chance that any of the information uncovered can be used in any sort of impeachment proceedings.
Segnosaur
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A little bit of side news:
Does the name Duncan Hunter ring a bell? He was the second congress-critter to endorse Trump for the presidency.
Well, he has just plead guilty to campaign finance violations (misusing funds for personal expenses, including ones involving extramarital affairs). Should be noted that at one point he labeled the investigation a "witch hunt".
So he was the second to endorse Trump.... who was the first? Well, it was Chris Collins, another congress-critter who has since pleaded guilty to charges of insider trading.
https://theweek.com/speedreads/8820...e-operation-house-intelligence-report-reveals
Hmmm.... 2 early Trump supporters, both of them indicted and then plead guilty. Granted, the charges didn't directly involve Trump, but its rather curious that the first republicans to see value in Trump are both convicted criminals.
Does the name Duncan Hunter ring a bell? He was the second congress-critter to endorse Trump for the presidency.
Well, he has just plead guilty to campaign finance violations (misusing funds for personal expenses, including ones involving extramarital affairs). Should be noted that at one point he labeled the investigation a "witch hunt".
So he was the second to endorse Trump.... who was the first? Well, it was Chris Collins, another congress-critter who has since pleaded guilty to charges of insider trading.
https://theweek.com/speedreads/8820...e-operation-house-intelligence-report-reveals
Hmmm.... 2 early Trump supporters, both of them indicted and then plead guilty. Granted, the charges didn't directly involve Trump, but its rather curious that the first republicans to see value in Trump are both convicted criminals.
ponderingturtle
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Since when is that illegal, why if it was Trump would be in trouble for paying off Stormy! Not just his lawyer who did it.
Stacyhs
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Trump on Adam Schiff today:
Projecting there much, Donnie?
Projecting there much, Donnie?
calebprime
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He projects like that so often that it almost seems like he's always speaking only of himself.
By the way, it's possible for a basically stupid narcissist to *also* have what *he* thinks is a self-deprecating humor streak. I think this streak has confused people into thinking he's even more deranged than he is.
He doesn't even seem to be suffering from increasing dementia to me -- I think most of that can be attributed to how it looks when a mediocre liar is put under a relentless spotlight.
By the way, it's possible for a basically stupid narcissist to *also* have what *he* thinks is a self-deprecating humor streak. I think this streak has confused people into thinking he's even more deranged than he is.
He doesn't even seem to be suffering from increasing dementia to me -- I think most of that can be attributed to how it looks when a mediocre liar is put under a relentless spotlight.
Segnosaur
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Well, to nitpick a little....
The crime that Duncan Hunter was guilty of was misusing campaign funds (i.e. not using money the way it should have been). This is a different crime than Trump is accused of (his payment to Stormy was an illegal campaign contribution that should have been declared but wasn't).
Both are crimes, but the details around them are different.
plague311
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Trump covers a few others as well. The campaign funds, charity funds, and the inauguration funds.
Just another thing he's better than most people at doing.
Aridas
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Not just impeachment. Criminal charges in general, like Trump and Barr are trying to do regarding the Trump Organization.
In other things to poke at...
House Intelligence report on the impeachment inquiry is definitive, detailed, and utterly damning
If you want or need a review, it's not a horrible idea to read it.
CNN: IRS whistleblower declines interview with Senate after being warned off by IRS official
Hmm. This is a somewhat interesting case, given the nature of the confidentiality laws in play. Still, I find it distinctly problematic for any whistleblower to be warned not to testify about things that absolutely should not be covered under privacy laws - such as testifying about actions taken to interfere with or prevent people from doing their job properly, especially when it's for the personal benefit of a public servant superior.
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tyr_13
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Trump bashing NATO has been one of the few things he's been (relatively) consistent on. As such, I don't think the value is that he'll actually have to support it now. One valuable aspect is that now there is some uncertainty in the direction of maybe he would stand with NATO sometimes. Even that might be putting it too strongly. It's that the idea is now out there that he could.
The same improbably nigh-impossible deniability that he leverages constantly to let his serfs defend him can work for others too. This is especially important as the value of compromat decreases as it's exposure by outside forces becomes more likely, which could well be the situation he is currently in.
(Note that I didn't read the article so if it makes the argument you're being critical of, I agree that it is faulty reasoning.)
The Shrike
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Also one of the few policy areas where I felt he was correct and we should re-evaluate our NATO contributions. Not that I approve of the way he's done this mind you, he's just gone around insulting allies and burning bridges and there has been no discussion about this (to my knowledge) in Congress. Also the point of the problem with the US carrying a disproportionate NATO burden should be to let us devote less of our budget to defense spending. I think the Trumpian/GOP is, if anything, increase defense spending and orchestrate stunningly profitable weapons sales to all manner of unsavory highest bidders.
Stacyhs
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Don't worry, Donnie. You'll be seeing her at your impeachment trial when she votes your fat ass 'guilty'.
a_unique_person
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http://video.foxnews.com/v/6109134023001/
Nunes to sue CNN and Daily Beast for 450 million dollars. This should be fun.
Nunes to sue CNN and Daily Beast for 450 million dollars. This should be fun.
Aridas
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As ever, "discovery" might be a rather interesting phase of things for Nunes.
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