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Did Epstein run a World Satanic Ring?

IsThisTheLife said:
The "satanism" often associated with organised child abuse is nothing but theatrics, used by the degenerates to cloak and, to an extent, 'rationalise' what's essentially nothing but submission to the basest, most destructive of human impulses.
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Do we have any actual examples of those theatrics? Or are they just silly rumours?
 
Horatius said:
Okay, seriously, what's the issue with "jumbo-sized Jesus crucifixes"? When I read the OP, I was sure it was a parody, because it seemed like you were describing every single Catholic Church I've ever been in.

Of course, now you're taking on the Vatican, so I guess you were serious, but seriously, can you not see how someone else might think you're just a little nuts?
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Don't be so rude.

Are you claiming these beliefs do not exist? Just because you scoff at it, it doesn't mean certain other people don't take the occult seriously.
 
Vixen said:
Don't be so rude.

Are you claiming these beliefs do not exist? Just because you scoff at it, it doesn't mean certain other people don't take the occult seriously.
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Some posters might think you are seeing patterns that aren't really there.

For example, you cite the coding used for a person's age as being 2x8. Well, earlier you said eight plus eight, then 2 x eight). That person is also reported to be a Russian teacher. If the writer of the phone record was able to cloak the profession, shouldn't they have also cloaked the age? Say, adding 11 to the age, making a 16 yr old 27? The reader would still get the message.
 
IsThisTheLife said:
The "satanism" often associated with organised child abuse is nothing but theatrics, used by the degenerates to cloak and, to an extent, 'rationalise' what's essentially nothing but submission to the basest, most destructive of human impulses.
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The question isn't really whether satanism is real or not. Just whether some think it jolly good fun and worth protecting.

Think about it. Were you or I - or let's say him next door - were to throw a party which included procuring a load of teenage escorts for his bunch of middle-aged mates. Notwithstanding running a house of ill repute or living off immoral earnings could get you having your collar felt by the police, can you seriously envisage getting away with it for decades? Say Epstein's Madam was Ghislaine Maxwell (which she denies and has never been arrested for) how come she has never faced questioning by the FBI or whoever?

So say you have something that is akin to a secret society that no-one knows about, would you really expect to see world leaders, top attorneys, financier, presidents and former presidents of the USA, members of the British Royal Family (allegedly) there? Given society's norms are (still) the nuclear family: Mom, Dad and the kids, what are these pillars of society, who are supposed to be setting an example, doing, having debauched orgies with women barely out of their teens in stylised rituals and temples, like something out of 'Eyes Wide Shut'?

Well, one way to deal with the cognitive dissonance is to perhaps call it some kind of exclusive lodge, run on masonic lines.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
Could just be an honest mistake. When you're raised Jewish but switch for business reasons to Team Satan you may just have it in mind that you've changed teams but get a bit vague about the specific symbols of your new allegiance. You're busy, busy, busy doing evil so this sort of detail might get overlooked. He was probably expecting his henchmen to pick up on any mistakes he made but they might have thought he was being ironic.
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I am sure Epstein was a nice Jewish boy who observed Yom Kippur, yearly asking for atonement for the previous year, eats Seder meals with his elderly aunts at Passover, says, 'Mazel Tov' at weddings, etcetera, etcetera. But who is this guy? OK, so he's a rich billionaire financier. So where did he get his money from? Was through honest business, or was it through arranging debauched and perhaps not-so-debauched parties for socialites, with his key role as a procurer of teenage flesh?

So, to make it clear these people couldn't give a toss about society's mores and are completely above it, why, in fact, they run the freaking world, dammit, so they mock the plebiscites by mocking the family, Jesus, sexual morality, the age of consent.

Virginia Roberts Guiffre claims Epstein and Maxwell wanted her to have his baby and then hand it over. What? Did it happen? What happened to this baby?
 
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Cosmic Yak said:
Fascinating, but this has absolutely naff all to do with the idea that Epstein, the Democrat Party and the British Royal family are Satanists.
And, no, I wasn't being flippant. These accusations are 'Da Vinci Code'-level horsedung. What is needed is some evidence, any evidence at all, before these kinds of accusations are thrown around.
Do you have any evidence to back up your claims?
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Witnesses who claim Epstein had entourages of thirty or so. 'Sex slave' Chantau Davies claims she procured at least fifty of her friends 'between 14 -16' for Epstein and Virginia says something similar, but ages unspecified.

All riiiight, so Epstein liked young flesh. So what? He had the money to attract them, whether by grooming or by a straightforward commercial deal.

But wait!

These girls were not just for his own use. This is where it becomes sinister: he was supplying Bill Clinton, Donald Trump and Prince Andrew - allegedly - amongst another 'one thousand names', according to an unsealed court deposition.

What?

Makes Dan Brown look seriously lightweight in comparison.
 
Not enough arguing going on in the other threads, so time to throw out baseless crap that isn't even supported by the speculation in question, let alone any actual evidence?
 
Vixen said:
I am sure Epstein was a nice Jewish boy who observed Yom Kippur, yearly asking for atonement for the previous year, eats Seder meals with his elderly aunts at Passover, says, 'Mazel Tov' at weddings, etcetera, etcetera. But who is this guy? OK, so he's a rich billionaire financier. So where did he get his money from? Was through honest business, or was it through arranging debauched and perhaps not-so-debauched parties for socialites, with his key role as a procurer of teenage flesh?
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You have the weirdest theories.
 
eerok said:
Epstein was a perv and a monster, but there's no credible evidence he was a Satanist. What a load of hooey.
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'A perv and a monster' who got half the world leaders to join in with his shenanigans and they all covered up for him

And all you can say is, 'what a load of hooey'.
 
Horatius said:
Come on, it's not enough to hate a guy just because he's a perv and a monster! We've got to sex it up a bit!
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How many pervs and monsters do you know of who get to share around the perversity and monstrousness to a POTUS, ex-POTUS and HRH Prince, defender of the faith, and protected from legal action for decades?
 
Vixen said:
How many pervs and monsters do you know of who get to share around the perversity and monstrousness to a POTUS, ex-POTUS and HRH Prince, defender of the faith, and protected from legal action for decades?
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How many of them have hundreds of millions of dollars?
 
Belz... said:
Some people take Raelian aliens seriously. Some people take Xenu seriously.

That doesn't mean much.
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I could take Ralian aliens seriously but as soon as I throw parties involving the POTUS and His Royal Highness doing things you're not allowed to do and keeping it secret for decades then it begins to mean something.
 
I bet he had a tunnel right to Podesta's favorite pizza place beneath his Jewish pagan satanic masonic temple.
 
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