Did Epstein run a World Satanic Ring?

[Myriad]

Oh, and by the way, the "12" on a sundial stands for noon, but NOT for midnight. Can you figure out why not?

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Idiots indeed. I got about half way through before I couldn't stand any more of them talking about how great they are.

It did seem like a load of nothing, padded out with 90% self-congratulatory chit-chat about how insanely brave they were.

I mean, if they had gone to the wrong rich guy's holiday island and filmed his sinister summer houses, sinister sundial and sinister patio furniture instead, I wouldn't have known. I guess you have to be insanely brave to recognise Satanism when you see it.

 

[Vixen]

Masons aren't satanists. What are you talking about?

OK: ancient Egyptian and Babylonian cults then. The cult of Osiris and Ba'al.

Masons ultimately are Ancient Egyptian occultists

 

[Vixen]

A sixteen-point compass rose is not a satanic symbol. They appear on many compasses, and compass points are also common on horizontal sundials. (There are sixteen "named" directions, N, NNE, NE, ENE, E, ESE, etc. Most small compasses and printed compass rose symbols have only eight points instead, but sixteen points is still not unusual. Nautical compasses have thirty-two points, which are referred to in phrases like "she runs close-hauled six points off the wind.")

The "12" at the top of a sundial stands for 12 o'clock. As in, noon. As in, when the sun is directly south and the shadow of the dial's gnomon points to the top of the dial. Same as on regular clock dials. Do you own a satanic clock or wristwatch with a "12" at the top?

Birds? Gold domes? Blue and white stripes? Which of these are satanic? This is such nonsense.

Are you kidding me? That sundial has little to do with compass points.

 

[Vixen]

Good lord.
To summarise: Epstein, who is Jewish and therefore not a Satanist, is actually a Satanist because he has a crucifix in his house, which is Christian not Satanist.
He is also a Satanist because there is a temple in the grounds of this house, which is not pictured in the link, and is not described as a temple either.
He is also a Satanist because of his connection with the British Royal family, who are Christians, not Satanists.
Furthermore, he is a Satanist because he gave money to, and had connections with, the Democrat Party, who are not Satanists either.
Finally, he is a Satanist because of references to Jimmy Savile, who was not a Satanist, and because of some vague allusion to the 'Satanic Panic' hysteria of a few years ago, which turned out to be unfounded.
Clearly an open-and-shut case. Thanks for bringing it to our attention, Vixen. The world is now a better place thanks to you.

For the Americans reading this, that last part was sarcasm.

I know you are being flippant but you ought to know that so-called Christian countries are rife with masonic /Egyptian symbolism.

Look at St Peter's Square in Rome at the Vatican. The epitome of Roman Catholicism, right? Wait! There is a massive Ancient Egyptian obelisk bang in the middle of it, the second oldest in the world, transported direct from Egypt to Rome via Alexandria. Sure the hieroglyphics have been replaced by Christian ones. A four-pointed cross has been mounted on top. Wait again! the cross is on top of an eight-sided star - said to represent Melchizedek - itself aloft eight-sided honeycombs.

It doesn't end there. Deciding the obelisk represented a ray of sunshine (the Osiris cult) an eight-sided sundial has been drawn around it, with the obelisk marking the time of day with its shadow. We do not have an eight-hour clock, nor a sixteen-hour one. Also added is a compass rose ( a sure masonic symbol).

What gets really interesting is the coding used in Epstein's 'black book' of clients, as attached. You can see one girl described as '2 x eight'.

Now of course, one can say this is all the biggest load of nonsense, yet people have taken it seriously down the ages, including the British Royal family and not to mention the obelisk looking feature in Washington DC. The USA is absolutely awash with these symbols.

 

[Vixen]

It did seem like a load of nothing, padded out with 90% self-congratulatory chit-chat about how insanely brave they were.

I mean, if they had gone to the wrong rich guy's holiday island and filmed his sinister summer houses, sinister sundial and sinister patio furniture instead, I wouldn't have known. I guess you have to be insanely brave to recognise Satanism when you see it.

The 'wrong rich guy' will have a raised platform of sunbeds and swimming pools.

No teenage girl sex orgies under jumbo-sized Jesus crucifixes.

 

[Horatius]

Okay, seriously, what's the issue with "jumbo-sized Jesus crucifixes"? When I read the OP, I was sure it was a parody, because it seemed like you were describing every single Catholic Church I've ever been in.

Of course, now you're taking on the Vatican, so I guess you were serious, but seriously, can you not see how someone else might think you're just a little nuts?

 

[Belz...]

OK: ancient Egyptian and Babylonian cults then. The cult of Osiris and Ba'al.

Masons ultimately are Ancient Egyptian occultists

Ok, and?

Are you retracting your OP's question, then?

 

[Venom]

The Peter Scully case is the closest thing to an international child sex-trafficking ring.
Was arrested before it got off the ground.

But this guy made Epstein look like a saint.

 

[Axxman300]

I know you are being flippant but you ought to know that so-called Christian countries are rife with masonic /Egyptian symbolism.

...and what does this have to do with Satanism? (he said, tongue in cheek)

Look at St Peter's Square in Rome at the Vatican. The epitome of Roman Catholicism, right? Wait! There is a massive Ancient Egyptian obelisk bang in the middle of it, the second oldest in the world, transported direct from Egypt to Rome via Alexandria. Sure the hieroglyphics have been replaced by Christian ones. A four-pointed cross has been mounted on top. Wait again! the cross is on top of an eight-sided star - said to represent Melchizedek - itself aloft eight-sided honeycombs.

ZMG! Teh evils Masons pulled a fast one on their arch enemiezies teh Catholicks centuries before they even existed! Masons really are sneaky.

And I'm sure it had nothing to do with some Italian wandering around Egypt and seeing an obelisk and thinking, "Hey, that would look cool in Rome, lets do some empire stuff."

It doesn't end there.

It never does.

Deciding the obelisk represented a ray of sunshine (the Osiris cult) an eight-sided sundial has been drawn around it, with the obelisk marking the time of day with its shadow. We do not have an eight-hour clock, nor a sixteen-hour one. Also added is a compass rose ( a sure masonic symbol).

So how did we tell time before those sneaking Masons showed up? Are you spreading propaganda for Big Hour-Glass?

What gets really interesting is the coding used in Epstein's 'black book' of clients, as attached. You can see one girl described as '2 x eight'.

2x8=16...now why would that number describing a girl be considered significant in a pedophile's notebook? Hmmmm....

Now of course, one can say this is all the biggest load of nonsense, yet people have taken it seriously down the ages, including the British Royal family and not to mention the obelisk looking feature in Washington DC. The USA is absolutely awash with these symbols.

Wait, so you're telling me that Washington D.C. - a city named after a Master Mason - dedicated a masonic designed memorial to said Master Mason in a city designed mostly be Free Masons?

And this is shocking news how exactly?

 

[Axxman300]

Okay, seriously, what's the issue with "jumbo-sized Jesus crucifixes"? When I read the OP, I was sure it was a parody, because it seemed like you were describing every single Catholic Church I've ever been in.

Of course, now you're taking on the Vatican, so I guess you were serious, but seriously, can you not see how someone else might think you're just a little nuts?

I'm sure it had nothing to do with the value of said jumbo cross. I sure Epstein didn't just buy a valuable cross as an investment, why would a billionaire put his money in art and artifacts which can be liquidated rather quickly when he needs real cash.

Nope, the only reason a Jewish guy buys a big crucifix is devil related.

 

[IsThisTheLife]

The "satanism" often associated with organised child abuse is nothing but theatrics, used by the degenerates to cloak and, to an extent, 'rationalise' what's essentially nothing but submission to the basest, most destructive of human impulses.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

The 'wrong rich guy' will have a raised platform of sunbeds and swimming pools.



No teenage girl sex orgies under jumbo-sized Jesus crucifixes.

Oh. Well dark forces must have doctored their insane video as there aren't any teen orgies under jumbo crucifixes in it any more. Just a couple of guys stumbling around an empty but seemingly still tended holiday island which looked like a bit of a building site to me, if I'm honest.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

I'm sure it had nothing to do with the value of said jumbo cross. I sure Epstein didn't just buy a valuable cross as an investment, why would a billionaire put his money in art and artifacts which can be liquidated rather quickly when he needs real cash.

Nope, the only reason a Jewish guy buys a big crucifix is devil related.

Could just be an honest mistake. When you're raised Jewish but switch for business reasons to Team Satan you may just have it in mind that you've changed teams but get a bit vague about the specific symbols of your new allegiance. You're busy, busy, busy doing evil so this sort of detail might get overlooked. He was probably expecting his henchmen to pick up on any mistakes he made but they might have thought he was being ironic.

 

[Elagabalus]

It's not woo. These guys really believe this stuff.

The sundial on Epstein's island shows sixteen flares. In other words, this is a 'Macedonian Star' or masonic sun and called 'eight plus eight'. Now this intrigues me because in a youtube video showing Epsteins 'black book' with long lists of presumably his victims, there was one woman/girl's name listed with the words, 'eight plus eight' beside it. What?

At the top of the sun dial is the number twelve (noon/midnight) in Roman numerals and there we see an altar stone. Nearby this is the blue and white striped chapel, with the door to the side of it, with bars on the outside (meaning those on the inside can be locked in by those outside). There are four birds - possibly a phoenix, cockerel or owl - two on the roof and two on the ground. The chapel itself also originally had a gold dome (similar to the mosques in Jerusalem and Aleppo). The stripes conjure up an image of the stripes of Tutankhamum, except these are blue and white rather than gold and blue. These could reflect the opposite colours of gold and black or simply Epstein's support of Zionism as per the blue and white stripes of the Israeli flag. The temple structure could be compared to the masonic Temple to Moluch. There is also apparent an entrance to an underground tunnel leading to the temple, which is on a mount. Now, we know Epstein had a large subterranean room for dancing and revellry and mass showers which could hold eight people at a time.

Thus we have a disturbing scenario of two or three times yearly - or more - of a mass party of powerful rich middle-aged men together with many teenage girls trained in massage and pornography making whoppee at his stylised mansions in hideaway places. The one at Mar-A- Lago (_sp?) is at the end of a promontory so no-one goes there unless that is their destination. The New Mexico one is in the middle of arrid shrubland. The New York one is in Manhattan and more pubicly visible as to all the comings and goings.

OK so it's fun to build a masonically- inspired temple and huge designed-after-Plato 'Atlantis'-themed raised platforms. However, throw in teenage girls - some underage - and people like Trump, Clinton and Prince Andrew Alan Dershowitz, Robert Maxwell's daughter, Ghislaine Maxwell, French model agency owner, Jean-Luc Brunel - both of whom are missing - then it takes on a more sinister tone, does it not? Bearing in mind it appears to have been going on since the early '90's and no-one's ever been arrested other than a lenient plea deal for Epstein for which he served a short 18-months with day release for much of it.

Wasn't this an episode of Vares?

 

[Myriad]

Are you kidding me? That sundial has little to do with compass points.

Horizontal sundials are often round, and must be oriented to geographical north and south in order to work properly. Including compass rose points is the most natural thing in the world. It gives the dial a function, local orientation, that visitors can appreciate even if it's cloudy.

 

[Trebuchet]

Horizontal sundials are often round, and must be oriented to geographical north and south in order to work properly. Including compass rose points is the most natural thing in the world. It gives the dial a function, local orientation, that visitors can appreciate even if it's cloudy.

I looked at the island on Google Earth. There are both a sundial and a compass rose. I think they are being conflated here.

 

[Cosmic Yak]

I know you are being flippant but you ought to know that so-called Christian countries are rife with masonic /Egyptian symbolism.

Look at St Peter's Square in Rome at the Vatican. The epitome of Roman Catholicism, right? Wait! There is a massive Ancient Egyptian obelisk bang in the middle of it, the second oldest in the world, transported direct from Egypt to Rome via Alexandria. Sure the hieroglyphics have been replaced by Christian ones. A four-pointed cross has been mounted on top. Wait again! the cross is on top of an eight-sided star - said to represent Melchizedek - itself aloft eight-sided honeycombs.

It doesn't end there. Deciding the obelisk represented a ray of sunshine (the Osiris cult) an eight-sided sundial has been drawn around it, with the obelisk marking the time of day with its shadow. We do not have an eight-hour clock, nor a sixteen-hour one. Also added is a compass rose ( a sure masonic symbol).

What gets really interesting is the coding used in Epstein's 'black book' of clients, as attached. You can see one girl described as '2 x eight'.

Now of course, one can say this is all the biggest load of nonsense, yet people have taken it seriously down the ages, including the British Royal family and not to mention the obelisk looking feature in Washington DC. The USA is absolutely awash with these symbols.

Fascinating, but this has absolutely naff all to do with the idea that Epstein, the Democrat Party and the British Royal family are Satanists.
And, no, I wasn't being flippant. These accusations are 'Da Vinci Code'-level horsedung. What is needed is some evidence, any evidence at all, before these kinds of accusations are thrown around.
Do you have any evidence to back up your claims?

 

[eerok]

Epstein was a perv and a monster, but there's no credible evidence he was a Satanist. What a load of hooey.

 

[Horatius]

Epstein was a perv and a monster, but there's no credible evidence he was a Satanist. What a load of hooey.

Come on, it's not enough to hate a guy just because he's a perv and a monster! We've got to sex it up a bit!