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UK - December 2019 General Election

A Conservative candidate has actually managed to post something on social media so horrible that they have decided to step down.

Saying that benefit claimants should be killed is merely regrettable, but this will make you withdraw your candidacy:

In one post, Mr Calvert is said to have written that if former Libyan dictator Gaddaffi wanted to walk the streets unrecognised "he should surely have fled to Bradford".
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50365354
 
P.J. Denyer said:
Honestly? If it was something more gun like than a purple spray bottle (being held up not even touching the trigger) I might be able to summon some outrage, but this seems like a legitimate, albeit unfunny joke.
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The joke is a play on the Cilit Bang slogan, 'Bang, and the dirt is gone'. As you say, not particularly funny, but hardly outrageous.
 
Had a Brexiter MP published this meme about a Remainer MP with the words "BANG! and the traitor is gone", would it have been perceived as a threat?

Oh, I think so.
 
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Robin said:
Had a Brexiter MP published this meme about a Remainer MP with the words "BANG! and the traitor is gone", would it have been perceived as a threat?

Oh, I think so.
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Agreed. For my money the tweet is vile. I'd certainly want to see a candidate showing much better judgement, to put it mildly.

Does twitter drive its users slightly insane?
 
Given that the person who tweeted it went through the Jo Cox programme for women in leadership, and Jo Cox was shot, I'd say she didn't learn much common sense while she was in the programme. Also the MP she tweeted it about has required police protection due to credible death threats.

I think she got the boot as much for being a brainless idiot with no sense of what was appropriate as anything else. Admittedly if you applied that across the board there would be a lot fewer MPs.
 
Rolfe said:
Given that the person who tweeted it went through the Jo Cox programme for women in leadership, and Jo Cox was shot, I'd say she didn't learn much common sense while she was in the programme. Also the MP she tweeted it about has required police protection due to credible death threats.

I think she got the boot as much for being a brainless idiot with no sense of what was appropriate as anything else. Admittedly if you applied that across the board there would be a lot fewer MPs.
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Meh, I have made this point before. This is no worse than calling people scum. I like Mhairi Black and I am pleased her colourful Twitter past wasn't held against her by the SNP.
I understand why people jump on the slightest thing an opposition party member does while laughing off comments by their own party members as youthful japes or humour that in hindsight is inappropriate.
We want the best candidates standing for election. They may not be the ones with the most boring past. I am more interested in how people behave now and in the future than in the lessons they have learned from their past.
 
Wyld Bird Seed is now a four-piece band rather than a five piece because the other guitarist has decided that to knock it on the head. I was on ultimate-guitar writing down the chords for the guitar solo for Rikki Don't Lose That Number so that Mrs Don can add some keyboards while I play the solo.

Imagine my disgust when, despite having add blockers installed, Boris Johnson's face and "Get Brexit Done" was displayed in the bottom left of the screen :mad:
 
One positive thing, possibly the only one, out of brexit, it that it has shown that politics is not black and white down party lines. While I have a strong opinion it is nice to see people on different sides of political fence coming together finding common ground and recognising similarities.

This all makes the election even more depressing. Tory and Labour this election are both planning to borrow heavily to deliver their promises. Listen to the parties however and "They are sensibly investing in the future and the opposition are reckless wasters" Labour and the SNP divided by a fag paper on many issues will oppose each other as only siblings can, no doubt to then fight together arm in arm once the election is over.

It would be really nice to have some honesty in the debates so we can see where parties agree and where they differ and exactly by how much.

I am sure that polling and focus groups have shown that being emotionally dishonest and overplaying rhetoric pays in the polls but it doesn't help when people want to weigh up the arguments objectively.
 
Archie Gemmill Goal said:
So it seems the Brexit Party are going to stand down in Tory seats. So much for not doing a deal. Knew it would happen.
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Was there ever really a doubt ?

A nod and a wink between the two parties, Boris Johnson will do his best to ensure a no-deal and the Brexit Party will do everything it can to ensure that he's Prime Minister.
 
The Don said:
Was there ever really a doubt ?

A nod and a wink between the two parties, Boris Johnson will do his best to ensure a no-deal and the Brexit Party will do everything it can to ensure that he's Prime Minister.
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About the only thing they could do now is find a hole, climb in it, and vanish until after the election. When your selection process failed to weed out a candidate claiming to come form another star system and Nigel Farage is in charge of the whole sorry mess the last thing Boris needs is his new 'ally' coming under more press scrutiny.
 
Something to notice about the Brexit Party being a limited company.
Limited companies do not have to disclose their donations or funding. Unlike political parties.
 
Nigel Farage told Eddie Mair "of course" he will not refund the dropped Brexit Party candidates, after deciding not to stand his party against the Conservatives in 317 seats.

Eddie Mair asked: "Would you refund the money would-be candidates have spent?"
Farage said that he "warned them all, face to face, that if circumstances changed" then there might be a different "situation".

He said: "I'm sorry to the people that have put their time and their money on the line."

Eddie then asked: "How much money how much money have you raked in with these non-refundable £100s?"

Farage told Eddie that 3000 people applied to be candidates.

Eddie asked if they were going to be recompensed.

Nigel Farage said: "Of course not. We're a political party set up to deliver a proper Brexit. We have reset the political agenda this year in the most astonishing way."
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https://amp.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/eddie-mair/nigel-farage-not-refund-dropped-candidates-mair

"I'm not going to refund their money. They put their faith in me to do the right thing and the vast majority of them, this afternoon, agree with what I've done."
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Grifters gonna grift.
 
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Maybe some of them will be so pissed off they'll stand as unofficial Brexit party candidates, and spoil Nigel's day.
 
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