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UK - December 2019 General Election
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Vixen
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Even more interesting is the news alongside it, that a Belgian band has brought out a disco version of John Bercow's 'Order!' Unlock!
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/to...oured-in-belgian-dance-single-order-1-6356116
dudalb
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Both Labor and the Tories seem to have been hijacked by the zealots. Not good at all.
sphenisc
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The Tories have failed to build any of the 200,000 starter homes they were supposed to, forcing many couples to remain in the family home. Sales of new cars have fallen. A no deal Brexit is predicted to cause a substantial shrinkage of UK GDP.
If I'm in favour of fighting Climate Change should I vote Tory?
If I'm in favour of fighting Climate Change should I vote Tory?
a_unique_person
Director of Hatcheries and Conditioning
You can say that of every party, though.
Lothian
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Which issues are the Tories OK on?Information Analyst
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Indeed. Watson was far too credulous on that issue.
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BBC News: General Election 2019: Voters should back Johnson - ex Labour MP
Having just seen Austin on BBC Breakfast, I have to say that he came across as staggeringly insincere, and his delivery seemed more like an actor playing the part. He also accused Corbyn directly of saying and doing racist things (which may or may not be actionable), but seemed OK in urging people to vote for a party led by serial racist Boris Johnson.
On a related note, my attention was recently drawn to a Jewish press report trumpeting the fact that so many Jewish Labour voters had switched to the Lib-Dems. Apart from the fact that they'd misinterpreted the poll data in the most basic way, it actually showed that it was something 55% had switched to other parties in general, so not markedly more than the 47% other polling shows across the general population. It's also the case that only 11% of Jewish voters supported Labour in 2017, anyway.
Having just seen Austin on BBC Breakfast, I have to say that he came across as staggeringly insincere, and his delivery seemed more like an actor playing the part. He also accused Corbyn directly of saying and doing racist things (which may or may not be actionable), but seemed OK in urging people to vote for a party led by serial racist Boris Johnson.
On a related note, my attention was recently drawn to a Jewish press report trumpeting the fact that so many Jewish Labour voters had switched to the Lib-Dems. Apart from the fact that they'd misinterpreted the poll data in the most basic way, it actually showed that it was something 55% had switched to other parties in general, so not markedly more than the 47% other polling shows across the general population. It's also the case that only 11% of Jewish voters supported Labour in 2017, anyway.
Vixen
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The Jewish population according to the last Census numbers apx 250,000. Compare and contrast to the 750K Scots in the UK outside Scotland whom we have been told in no uncertain terms cannot affect the General Election result so should be disregarded
https://newsroom.fb.com/news/2019/11/how-facebook-has-prepared-for-the-2019-uk-general-election/
"The Elections Taskforce will be working on issues including threat intelligence, data science, engineering, operations, legal and others. It also includes representatives from WhatsApp and Instagram.
As we get closer to the election, these people will be brought together in physical spaces in their offices – what we call our Operations Centre."
"We don’t believe a private company like Facebook should censor politicians. This is why we don’t send content or ads from politicians and political parties to our third party fact-checking partners.
This doesn’t mean that politicians can say whatever they want on Facebook. They can’t spread misinformation about where, when or how to vote. They can’t incite violence. We won’t allow them to share content that has previously been debunked as part of our third-party fact-checking program. And we of course take down content that violates local laws. "
Lots more in the first link but nobody reads links and this is getting too long too.
One last handy thing:
"Every political and issue ad in the that runs on Facebook now goes into our Ad Library public archive that everyone can access, regardless of whether or not they have a Facebook account.
"We launched this in the UK in October 2018 and, since then, there’s been over 116,000 ads related to politics, elections, and social issues placed in the UK Ad Library. You can find all the ads that a candidate or organization is running, including how much they spent and who saw the ad. And we’re storing these ads in the Ad Library for seven years.
"Other media such as billboards, newspaper ads, direct mail, leaflets or targeted emails don’t today provide this level of transparency into the ad and who is seeing them. And as a result, we’ve seen a significant number of press stories regarding the election driven by the information in Facebook’s Ad Library. "
Here's the link to the Facebook Ad Library (with UK selected):
https://www.facebook.com/ads/librar...ression_search_field=has_impressions_lifetime
"The Elections Taskforce will be working on issues including threat intelligence, data science, engineering, operations, legal and others. It also includes representatives from WhatsApp and Instagram.
As we get closer to the election, these people will be brought together in physical spaces in their offices – what we call our Operations Centre."
"We don’t believe a private company like Facebook should censor politicians. This is why we don’t send content or ads from politicians and political parties to our third party fact-checking partners.
This doesn’t mean that politicians can say whatever they want on Facebook. They can’t spread misinformation about where, when or how to vote. They can’t incite violence. We won’t allow them to share content that has previously been debunked as part of our third-party fact-checking program. And we of course take down content that violates local laws. "
Lots more in the first link but nobody reads links and this is getting too long too.
One last handy thing:
"Every political and issue ad in the that runs on Facebook now goes into our Ad Library public archive that everyone can access, regardless of whether or not they have a Facebook account.
"We launched this in the UK in October 2018 and, since then, there’s been over 116,000 ads related to politics, elections, and social issues placed in the UK Ad Library. You can find all the ads that a candidate or organization is running, including how much they spent and who saw the ad. And we’re storing these ads in the Ad Library for seven years.
"Other media such as billboards, newspaper ads, direct mail, leaflets or targeted emails don’t today provide this level of transparency into the ad and who is seeing them. And as a result, we’ve seen a significant number of press stories regarding the election driven by the information in Facebook’s Ad Library. "
Here's the link to the Facebook Ad Library (with UK selected):
https://www.facebook.com/ads/librar...ression_search_field=has_impressions_lifetime
Nessie
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Exactly. He had to go quickly, just as the Tory Welsh minister had to go quickly, so that as the election approaches, this is old news.
Mojo
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The other day the Tories were saying that Labour’s plans for employment law would cost jobs, but I’m not sure whether that means they are in opposed to or in favour of them.
P.J. Denyer
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So, the release of the report into whether there was Russian interference into the Brexit vote has been delayed, I can't find a source but I've heard until March, by which time it's likely that the result will have been implemented (or discarded).
Also, it's been announced that the police aren't going to tell us if they believe there are grounds for investigating Boris Johnson for misconduct in a public office until after the election he believes will return him to office for five years.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/09/boris-johnson-jennifer-arcuri-iopc-delay-announcement-investigation
Also, it's been announced that the police aren't going to tell us if they believe there are grounds for investigating Boris Johnson for misconduct in a public office until after the election he believes will return him to office for five years.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/09/boris-johnson-jennifer-arcuri-iopc-delay-announcement-investigation
Which seems yet again remarkably Trumpian, we just need the police to announce they are dredging up some old allegation against Corbyn and we are right back to 2016.
Well, at least a PM doesn't need the excruciating US impeachment process. Just a plain prosecution will do.
Which is exactly why this postponement should raise a few eyebrows, if you can get past the likes of the Mail publishing ever larger numbers for how much Labour's plans will cost.