Merged Antigravity, engine and experiments with a flying saucer.

MasterOgon said:
For me it does not matter if ether exists. I need to explain why when an object pushes water or gas forward, its momentum, reaction, returns after some time and from the opposite side. As far as I know, generally accepted theories say that this is impossible.
But the experiment shows that this is happening.
https://youtu.be/85Gc0ryw2iI
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Explain what this vid is supposed to be showing MasterOgon.
 
MasterOgon said:
This article is a set of scientific facts, the results of my own research and their theoretical justification...
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MasterOgon, what college or university are you a physics professor for? What are your credentials for this subject? Any subject?

Can you point to some research papers you have published, preferably peer reviewed, on this topic?
 
MasterOgon said:
For me it does not matter if ether exists. I need to explain why when an object pushes water or gas forward, its momentum, reaction, returns after some time and from the opposite side. As far as I know, generally accepted theories say that this is impossible.
But the experiment shows that this is happening.
https://youtu.be/85Gc0ryw2iI
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When you compress a medium you produce a higher pressure region. For an object within said medium compressing it in one direction also reduces pressure in the other direction. As the media tends to balance out pressure differentials it flows from higher pressure areas to lower pressure areas. This inflow of the media into the lower pressure areas can be chaotic causing drag.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/hframe.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag_(physics)

With oscillatory motion the higher pressure generated can even push the object itself back into the lower pressure region. The media being at lower pressure in that direction the object moves easier in that direction. Basically like dog paddling you push some media behind you and that greater pressure behind pushes you into the lower pressure media in front. I'm sure a number of factors are at play including the frequency of the oscillation and the size of the test pool. As you'll get some constructive and destructive interference on the wave timing as the low pressure area tries to normalize and the object moves pushed from the high pressure area. Nothing I see that's outside of what just basic mechanics says is possible and necessary (under certain conditions) .
 
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An ignorant "momentum, reaction, returns after some time" delusion

MasterOgon said:
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This seems to be a lie followed by an ignorant delusion. He has posted about the aether he claims to be not a matter!

Objects pushing water or gas forward is fluid mechanics that has been understood for centuries.

An ignorant "momentum, reaction, returns after some time" delusion. An object moving in a fluid always loses momentum through the resistance of the fluid.

A deluded crank video (in Russian so I have to guess here) cannot show that the laws of physics are wrong.
What it shows is that the author is deluded about or ignorant of physics. A quick Google translate shows this is the same "Inertioid" pseudoscience that was posted before. Only 55 seconds long, a sentence or 2 of narration, some idiot fiddling around with what looks like a boat in a tank :jaw-dropp!

My guess: An ignorant crank not knowing that water has friction and flows so that a vibrating object can "row" itself through water.
 
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A ignorant "electromagnetic field has the shape of a torus" delusion

MasterOgon said:
I see no reason for me to know the theory of relativity and quantum gravity well. ...
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A bit of stupidity that someone writing about relativity and quantum gravity does not need to know about relativity and quantum gravity!
However my "Gas and fluid vortex" stupidity about black holes and some insane ignorance post he seems to be relying to was not about relativity or quantum gravity. It was about his ignorance of what we know about black hoes and dark matter..

Followed by an ignorant "electromagnetic field has the shape of a torus" delusion. An electromagnetic field can have any shape at all. Light is an electromagnetic wave that goes in a straight line, not a torus :jaw-dropp!
 
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The Man said:
When you compress a medium you produce a higher pressure region. For an object within said medium compressing it in one direction also reduces pressure in the other direction. As the media tends to balance out pressure differentials it flows from higher pressure areas to lower pressure areas. This inflow of the media into the lower pressure areas can be chaotic causing drag.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/hframe.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag_(physics)

With oscillatory motion the higher pressure generated can even push the object itself back into the lower pressure region. The media being at lower pressure in that direction the object moves easier in that direction. Basically like dog paddling you push some media behind you and that greater pressure behind pushes you into the lower pressure media in front. I'm sure a number of factors are at play including the frequency of the oscillation and the size of the test pool. As you'll get some constructive and destructive interference on the wave timing as the low pressure area tries to normalize and the object moves pushed from the high pressure area. Nothing I see that's outside of what just basic mechanics says is possible and necessary (under certain conditions) .
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It is generally accepted that asymmetric oscillations can lead to a movement in the direction of a slow pulse, since in this direction the resistance should be less. There is a patent for an aircraft in the shape of an umbrella, which should raise the umbrella slowly and quickly lower it. Here is a brief summary of this
http://puti.dp.ua/nepoznannoe/3585.html
It really works like surface tension.But in practice it turned out that when the umbrella compresses the air above itself, it does not expand backward, like a spring, but continues to fly further by inertia and leaves a lower pressure above the umbrella. The air under the umbrella tends to fill this space and pushes from below. The video shows that when the saucer stops at the top, the ring vortex under it continues to move upward and flows around the saucer. This is the force that pushes. https://youtu.be/6uP2JjZLNro?list=PLrm6nkD3lMdHSAobaACNeqzMncPxXzddI&t=65
A phenomenon is known when a sharp decrease in a helicopter leads to a strong loss of altitude. This happens for the same reason. The helicopter pushes a mass of air down, and this mass moves by inertia together with the helicopter. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vortex_ring_state
 
MasterOgon said:
It is generally accepted that asymmetric oscillations can lead to a movement in the direction of a slow pulse, since in this direction the resistance should be less. There is a patent for an aircraft in the shape of an umbrella, which should raise the umbrella slowly and quickly lower it. Here is a brief summary of this
http://puti.dp.ua/nepoznannoe/3585.html
It really works like surface tension.But in practice it turned out that when the umbrella compresses the air above itself, it does not expand backward, like a spring, but continues to fly further by inertia and leaves a lower pressure above the umbrella. The air under the umbrella tends to fill this space and pushes from below. The video shows that when the saucer stops at the top, the ring vortex under it continues to move upward and flows around the saucer. This is the force that pushes. https://youtu.be/6uP2JjZLNro?list=PLrm6nkD3lMdHSAobaACNeqzMncPxXzddI&t=65
A phenomenon is known when a sharp decrease in a helicopter leads to a strong loss of altitude. This happens for the same reason. The helicopter pushes a mass of air down, and this mass moves by inertia together with the helicopter. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vortex_ring_state
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Is it not interesting that you are so hooked on the notion of a "saucer" when no such concept existed until the press simply made it up out of imagination from a misguided journalist. Why do you cling to that? Simple. Because you have been told so and that has formed your thoughts.
 
MasterOgon said:
Only here https://www.science-community.org/ru/user/185608
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So you have no credentials, no academic position, and no peer-reviewed papers. In short, zero credibility.

I think we can safely dismiss your claims as worthless rants based on nothing but a lack of knowledge and a lot of fantasies. Come back when you have accomplished all of these important requirements and maybe then we can take you seriously.
 
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This is a natural way of moving. My knowledge does not become less due to the fact that science is mired in bureaucracy. Not academics came up with airplanes, rockets, and much more. Modern science follows the path of the church, as in the days of Giordano Bruno. Here it is necessary to draw a clear distinction between the knowledge of the laws of nature and faith in the scriptures being reviewed.
 
Ogon, when I followed some links in your earlier posts, I found a bunch of videos of someone tossing a disk into the air. The disk was somewhat like a Frisbee, but with a less flat profile, a shape more like a jellyfish or a stereotyped flying saucer. It was also making a buzzing sound, as if equipped with a vibrating mechanism. In numerous tosses between numerous different videos, it showed no evidence of any ability to fly, glide, hover, maintain any particular attitude, or even fall less rapidly than, say, a ball or box shape of similar overall size and weight.

What is going on in those videos? Was that you? What were you trying to demonstrate? Do you regard any of those efforts as successful? If not, why not, do you think?

It's one thing to talk about theories and models for how something should behave, but when you try it out and it doesn't behave that way, what do you do then?
 
Myriad said:
Ogon, when I followed some links in your earlier posts, I found a bunch of videos of someone tossing a disk into the air. The disk was somewhat like a Frisbee, but with a less flat profile, a shape more like a jellyfish or a stereotyped flying saucer. It was also making a buzzing sound, as if equipped with a vibrating mechanism. In numerous tosses between numerous different videos, it showed no evidence of any ability to fly, glide, hover, maintain any particular attitude, or even fall less rapidly than, say, a ball or box shape of similar overall size and weight.

What is going on in those videos? Was that you? What were you trying to demonstrate? Do you regard any of those efforts as successful? If not, why not, do you think?

It's one thing to talk about theories and models for how something should behave, but when you try it out and it doesn't behave that way, what do you do then?
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Yes, these are my experiments. Indeed, it’s almost impossible to understand from the video that this works. The effect that I got is that in the free flow, the lift of the aerodynamic profile grows faster. The same effect without an engine can be obtained by reducing weight or increasing the speed of the throw. Only by some signs can we understand that this works. The first is slow motion. Frisbee spins faster. Secondly, this is the sound of the engine. When the engine starts to repel, the speed decreases. Here you can clearly see how a sharp increase in lift is accompanied by a deceleration of the motor. https://youtu.be/Y3JwBJ4iaho The biggest problem that I cannot solve myself is sustainability. Similar light forms can fly well and soar in the wind. But the more I increased the engine power, the earlier the overturning took place. In this video, the first two throws with the engine turned off, in the third throw, the motor rotates by inertia, then the motor is turned on and the saucer tilts more, trying to turn over https://youtu.be/OLseBWrmX_g To make the effect visual, I put the engine on the plane. Despite his perfect alignment, he began to nod excessively, somewhat reminiscent of a dolphin. You can see that at first it flies normally, until the pressure under the wing accumulates. It moves as rhythmically as the foam in the water that I posted earlier https://youtu.be/XLvvcr6mRYY
All my attempts to compare the free fall of the saucer with the engine turned off and on were unsuccessful, because it turned over with the engine turned on, and as a result, it fell faster. Now I am stuck in a dead end, as increasing the engine power, I just can not make the saucer fly stably.
 
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Jellyfish stupidity. Science and bureaucracy delusion. etc.

MasterOgon said:
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Going off the deep end so from now on I will just record the rants for the world to laugh at.
12 November 2019 MasterOgon: Jellyfish stupidity. Science and bureaucracy delusion. A lie that academics do not come up with technology. Sceince is religion delusion.
 
A delusion that there is a force lifting a saucer in a video

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12 November 2019 MasterOgon: A delusion that there is a force lifting a saucer in a vaping smoke ring blowing video.

FLYING O SAUCER - VGOD SESSIONS | @A_KIDZ starts with a guy blowing smoke rings. They then lift a saucer with their hand and blow smoke showing the air flow around the saucer. They lift the saucer fast enough to leave a smoke ring behind.

This is a vaping video about blowing smoke rings :jaw-dropp!
 
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