Merged Antigravity, engine and experiments with a flying saucer.

Deep ignorance about the aether which cannot be viscous

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Assuming that the ether is a medium with the properties of a viscous, inert substance, ....
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Deep ignorance about the aether which cannot be viscous.

This was one of the first problems seen with the aether. It cannot be viscous since planets, moons, asteroids, comets, gas, dust and modern spacecraft have to move through an aether with no measurable effects. The Earth has to spend up to 4.6 billon years in about the same orbit to remain habitable.
 
Cartoons and videos are not scientific literature and unrelated to Nikolai Noskov

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Nikolai Noskov ...
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Cartoons, links and videos are not scientific literature and seem unrelated to Nikolai Noskov. Especially Russian YouTube videos in a predominantly English speaking forum.
  • An "Antigravity engine" delusion.
  • "Inertia" delusion?
  • An "Antigravity" delusion.
  • "Aerodynamics bird flight" delusion?
  • "The principle of movement of jellyfish" delusion?
  • A "The principle of movement of the flying saucer" delusion.
  • "Parade of planets" gibberish?
  • A crank Russian YouTube channel?
 
Nikolay Noskov is very deluded about the Michelson-Morley experiments, etc.

MasterOgon said:
About Michelson-Morley experiments taken here - Centenary ethereal war. Nikolay Noskov
http://n-t.ru/tpe/ng/sev.htm
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At least a proper source but ... Nikolay Noskov is very deluded about the Michelson-Morley experiments, etc. This is a 2000 essay that ignores every MM experiment from 1887 to 2000 :jaw-dropp!

Noskov lies about Lorentz and Einstein. They applied the simple principle that the laws of lows must look the same to everyone and this became special relativity where an aether is not needed. It is almost 2 centuries of experiments that show that an aether does not exist.

Noskov lies about "incontestable evidences of existence of ether". The evidence for an aether has been contested for a couple of centuries.

Noskov lies about reference [1]. "B. Kori, D. Wilkinson, G. Smith and others. Experiments on an anisotropy of a background radiation. In: G. De Vaucouleurs. A. J., 58, s. 30, 1958."
This is a paper about the CMB and its anisotropy. There is no measurement of aether in that. Obvious sources of the anisotropy is that the Earth and Sun move!

Noskov lies about Dayton Miller who found "the Solar System goes towards the constellation Dorado at a speed of 227 km/s", not Noskov's "and, maybe, 300 and 400". Miller's work was later found to be wrong: "Shankland concluded that Miller's observed signal was partly due to statistical fluctuations and partly due to local temperature conditions".

A bit of conspiracy theory ranting ("Relativists have launched an intensive attack").

A partial lie about Lorentz addressing the MM experiments. Lorentz did work on making the laws of physics, specifically electromagnetism, be the same for all observers. Lorentz's 1892 paper is an aether theory!

A lying and deluded "was it possible to consider one experiments as correct, and other is not" question.
There were 13 out of 15 MM type experiments with null results from various groups by 1930. Three of these were by Miller :eye-poppi! There are 2 outliers - Miller in 1921 and 1925–1926. Anyone looking at the body of evidence would answer that Millers 2 experiments are dubious because 13 other experiment give different results. Later analysis showed that Miller's results were statistical and experimental errors.
 
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A "But the experiment proving their fallacy will not go anywhere" delusion

MasterOgon said:
Не думаю что вы сможете свое мнение обосновать чем-то, кроме принятых на веру догм современной науки и ссылок из Википедии. Но эксперимент, доказывающий их ошибочность, никуда не денется.
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A "But the experiment proving their fallacy will not go anywhere" delusion.

What makes modern physics correct is an enormous body of evidence that modern physics is correct! SR, GR and QM have many testable, falsifiable predictions that they have passed, sometimes extremely accurately.

It is impossible for a single experiment ("the experiment") to show that SR, GR and QM are wrong.
 
A possible "far as I know, opinions on this experiment are divided" lie

MasterOgon said:
As far as I know, opinions on this experiment are divided. ...
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A possible "far as I know, opinions on this experiment are divided" lie.

The MM results being verified by dozens of experiments is well known.
The only outliers of Miller's 2 results were shown to be in error decades ago - also well known.
I cited this to you back on 19 April 2019 at CosmoQuest: Many problems with this post, MasterOgon.
Here Wudang gave you an experiment from 2009:
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That was the point at which I stopped reading. The Michelson-Morley experiment is well documented and widely reported at the time and repeated since.
http://www.exphy.uni-duesseldorf.de...Light Propagation at the 10-17 Level 2009.pdf
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Laboratory Test of the Isotropy of Light Propagation at the 10-17 Level

There is no division of opinion among anyone who can count! 32 experiments in total. 30 say no aether wind. 2 are invalid.
 
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About the curvature of the palm. Naturally, it matters. Symmetric vibrations of the asymmetric profile also lead to movement. But asymmetric vibrations of a symmetrical profile do this too. The video has a symmetrical profile and asymmetric vibration.https://youtu.be/85Gc0ryw2iI
About the ether. Sea waves propagate in water. What is the propagation of light waves? You say in space. The same can be said about sea waves. But sea waves are made up of water. Where is the strong evidence that light waves are made up of nothing? Was the fabric of space-time ever discovered? Have gravitons, basons, and other nonsense been found to prove the theory of relativity? This is all complete nonsense. There are many more arguments in favor of ether.
 
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About the ether. Sea waves propagate in water. What is the propagation of light waves?
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Maxwell's quantitative connection between light and electromagnetism.

MasterOgon said:
But sea waves are made up of water. Where is the strong evidence that light waves are made up of nothing?
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Electromagnetic waves can move outside black holes, but the "ether", in your silly claim would be absorbed by the black hole's gravitational pull, which would expand and suck in the entire "ether" universe. That doesn't happen does it?

Therefore your claim is debunked.

MasterOgon said:
There are many more arguments in favor of ether.
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There are no such arguments. Explain how Polaroid glasses work, if light wasn't an electromagnetic wave as discovered by Maxwell.
 
From the point of view of common sense, a black hole, such as in the center of our galaxy, is a vortex funnel. A vortex is usually formed in a fluid and gas. And according to your theories, a galaxy is a randomly scattered trash on a checkered field with a pit. This is reminiscent of Alice in Wonderland, but not a scientific theory. What do you think the electromagnetic field is made of?
The dark matter that scientists had to weave into their delusional theory of relativity, this is ether.
 
MasterOgon said:
From the point of view of common sense, a black hole, such as in the center of our galaxy, is a vortex funnel. A vortex is usually formed in a fluid and gas.
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That's right. The black hole absorbs everything that reaches its Schwarzschild radius. Therefore there can't be a continuous "ether", in contact with the Schwarzschild radius or the whole universe would be sucked in as the black hole expands. Yet, in reality, we see light skim past the Schwarzschild radius.

Therefore there can't be any such "ether".:)
 

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Irrelevant gibberish about the curvature of the palm and some insane ignorance.

MasterOgon said:
About the curvature of the palm.....
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Irrelevant gibberish about the curvature of the palm and some insane ignorance. Repeats "I see bunnies in the clouds" fantasies about an aether that have been shown not to exist for over a century :eek:!

An insanely ignorant "What is the propagation of light waves" question. We have known that light propagates as electromagnetic waves since Maxwell in 1862-4 wrote his equations.

Some "light waves are made up of nothing" insanity - they are made of electric and magnetic fields.

An insanely ignorant "Was the fabric of space-time ever discovered" question. Spacetime has no "fabric". Spacetime is a mathematical model of what we see about the real universe. The use of spacetime matches whet the real universe tells us about itself, e.g. all of the passed predictions of SR and GR and QM.

Abysmal ignorance that GR is proved by the existence of "gravitons, basons". GR is validated by passing tests of general relativity :eye-poppi! Gravitons are what we expect from a theory of quantum gravity which does not exist yet.

If "basons" are bosons then we have the insanity of denying that the detected bosons exist (photons, etc.) :jaw-dropp.
 
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"Gas and fluid vortex" stupidity about black holes and some insane ignorance

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"Gas and fluid vortex" stupidity about black holes and some insane ignorance.

From the real universe point of view, black holes are not a delusion of vortexes in gases or fluids. Black holes are the remains of stars packed into small enough a volume to produce an event horizon. That shape of the event horizon is not a vortex. Black holes do not drag in matter like a vortex. Matter falls into a back hole just like any matter falls onto any body with mass, e.g. the Earth.

An insane "And according to your theories, a galaxy is a randomly scattered trash..." delusion. According to astronomy, a galaxy is an quite ordered collection of stars such as the Sun (not "trash"!), especially spiral galaxies such as the Milky Way with their obvious structure. Ultra diffuse galaxies might considered as "randomly scattered" stars but they are still bound into a galaxy.

Insane ignorance that dark matter is the aether. Insanely ignorant because someone writing about aether should at least know what aether is :jaw-dropp! Dark matter acts as non-baryonic matter. For example, we see dark matter separating from normal matter in colliding galaxy clusters.
 
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I see no reason for me to know the theory of relativity and quantum gravity well. It will only clog your head with unnecessary nonsense.
We know that the electromagnetic field has the shape of a torus, similar to an annular vortex. And what does it consist of? Out of the field? Hemp, maybe?
 
MasterOgon said:
I see no reason for me to know the theory of relativity and quantum gravity well. It will only clog your head with unnecessary nonsense.
We know that the electromagnetic field has the shape of a torus, similar to an annular vortex. And what does it consist of? Out of the field? Hemp, maybe?
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You don't need to know those indeed. All you need to know is that the Michelson Morley experiment showed that the aether does not exist.
 
MasterOgon said:
From the point of view of common sense, a black hole, such as in the center of our galaxy, is a vortex funnel. A vortex is usually formed in a fluid and gas. And according to your theories, a galaxy is a randomly scattered trash on a checkered field with a pit. This is reminiscent of Alice in Wonderland, but not a scientific theory. What do you think the electromagnetic field is made of?
The dark matter that scientists had to weave into their delusional theory of relativity, this is ether.
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You are confusing the "rubber sheet" model we use to help build an understanding about gravity as being an accurate model of gravity, it isn't.
 
For me it does not matter if ether exists. I need to explain why when an object pushes water or gas forward, its momentum, reaction, returns after some time and from the opposite side. As far as I know, generally accepted theories say that this is impossible.
But the experiment shows that this is happening.
https://youtu.be/85Gc0ryw2iI
 
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