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2020 Democratic Candidates Tracker - Part II

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No. I voted for Bill Clinton and Obama without thinking that.

In hindsight, Bill's behavior might have made it the lesser of two evils.

I never ever cast a vote for President thinking that way. They may have not been my first choice, but I never thought them as evil at the time of voting. I thought Bill slept around, but I could care less about that.


I get what you mean in hindsight. I also did not agree with many of his actually very conservative policies like his drug laws, don't ask, don't tell, getting rid of Glass Steagal.
 
It is not an issue.

If a winning Presidential candidate dies or becomes incapacitated between the counting of electoral votes in Congress and the inauguration, the Vice President elect will become President, Section 3 of the 20th Amendment.


Oh yes! Wow, those founders really thought of everything l! (That’s a joke!)


People don't get this but when we vote for President and Vice President we are actually voting for a slate of electors from the respective States to cast votes for President and VP.

Why don’t people get this? I mean, I have known this since what you call high school, but everyone else has seen at least two good examples in recent history of the electoral college and popular vote going different ways. They should have worked it out by now.
 
Oh yes! Wow, those founders really thought of everything l! (That’s a joke!)
:thumbsup::thumbsup: Good one!


Why don’t people get this? I mean, I have known this since what you call high school, but everyone else has seen at least two good examples in recent history of the electoral college and popular vote going different ways. They should have worked it out by now.

I mean sure, informed people get it. Someone who took and wasn't sleeping during Civics class gets it. But my experience is most people understand that there are electoral votes, they don't know the process.
 
Great. And Harris is pulling everything to Iowa, which she will lose and then she can drop out.
 
Unless Mayor Pete knocks it out of the park tonight, can we just go with Biden? Let's not risk four more years of the Stupid Bitch in Chief unless there's an heir apparent to Obama who comes out of this dinner. Let's not forget the main goal here. Biden is three points ahead of Trump in ******* Texas. Eyes on the prize people. Let's not risk four more years on Medicare for all.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/tx/texas_trump_vs_biden-6818.html
 
Unless Mayor Pete knocks it out of the park tonight, can we just go with Biden? Let's not risk four more years of the Stupid Bitch in Chief unless there's an heir apparent to Obama who comes out of this dinner. Let's not forget the main goal here. Biden is three points ahead of Trump in ******* Texas. Eyes on the prize people. Let's not risk four more years on Medicare for all.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/tx/texas_trump_vs_biden-6818.html

Some of us see it differently, don't risk 4 more years of Trump on old uninspiring creepy Joe. The numbers in your link look depressing.


I would go for a third choice at the moment if one emerges. But if not, I'd vote Warren over Biden.
 
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Unless Mayor Pete knocks it out of the park tonight, can we just go with Biden? Let's not risk four more years of the Stupid Bitch in Chief unless there's an heir apparent to Obama who comes out of this dinner. Let's not forget the main goal here. Biden is three points ahead of Trump in ******* Texas. Eyes on the prize people. Let's not risk four more years on Medicare for all.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/tx/texas_trump_vs_biden-6818.html

Some of us see it differently, don't risk 4 more years of Trump on old uninspiring creepy Joe. The numbers in your link look depressing.


I would go for a third choice at the moment if one emerges. But if not, I'd vote Warren over Biden.

It's a mistake to look at a poll today and believe that has any relevance to what a poll would look like a year from now. Joe was leading in Iowa by 10 points just a few months ago. Latest poll there has him in 4th place.
 
Some of us see it differently, don't risk 4 more years of Trump on old uninspiring creepy Joe. The numbers in your link look depressing.


I would go for a third choice at the moment if one emerges. But if not, I'd vote Warren over Biden.

But would an independent voter in the general election?
 
It's a mistake to look at a poll today and believe that has any relevance to what a poll would look like a year from now. Joe was leading in Iowa by 10 points just a few months ago. Latest poll there has him in 4th place.

4th place among whom, likely democratic caucus goers? Who cares. How do they fair against Trump in a general election? That's the only poll that counts.
 
Unless Mayor Pete knocks it out of the park tonight, can we just go with Biden? Let's not risk four more years of the Stupid Bitch in Chief unless there's an heir apparent to Obama who comes out of this dinner. Let's not forget the main goal here. Biden is three points ahead of Trump in ******* Texas. Eyes on the prize people. Let's not risk four more years on Medicare for all.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/tx/texas_trump_vs_biden-6818.html
I was feeling that way for a while too. If it meant the greatest chance of defeating Trump, I would be happy to have Biden as a "generic Democrat" President to act as a rubber stamp for the Dems in Congress and to appoint liberal Justices to the Supreme Court.

I am lately having serious doubts about Bidens' ability to complete the race, however.

I think his age may catch up to him too quickly to make it to the finish line ( which is all we really need him to do ).

Buttigieg has been presenting himself as a reasonable proxy for Biden, yet I have concerns about his chances after the hypothetical big kiss he would be planting on his husbands' mouth on stage at the convention after winning the nomination.

Ironically, that brings me "down" to the candidate that I actually prefer for POTUS- Warren.
 
Really, and be honest, who has seen this anything but a Warren/Biden race for months now?
 
Really, and be honest, who has seen this anything but a Warren/Biden race for months now?
Not a lot surprises me anymore. I can imagine a scenario where Biden sinks like a stone. That may already be underway actually.

I've been sort of hoping that would happen, and that Jay Inslee, or Beto (before he went on the fritz), or Booker, or Klobuchar, or Bennet would rise up.
 
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But would an independent voter in the general election?
We don't know yet.

Biden is on PBS right now giving the standard Democratic Platform and claiming (of course) that's he's the only one who can blah blah blah blah...

He claims Warren is making the healthcare numbers up, then he goes on to make his own numbers up as if it's a different thing.

As this gets closer to voting, Biden is going to be attacking Warren and pretending Bernie's OK if Bernie isn't a threat at that point.

Gag, he has his hands on a young girl's shoulders again. He looks like he's about to kiss her hair.
 
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