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The Trump Presidency: Part 17

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Belz... said:
I mean his style of voicing disagreement, not making gestures. In fact I've not known him to do something like that before.
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He has done this before, but whether it's an innocent gesture, subconscious, or deliberate is unknown. Here are videos of him doing it before:

https://gizmodo.com/did-president-trump-give-the-middle-finger-to-women-ast-1839217817

I am not a big body language proponent and it's from the DM, so I take what this body language expert says with a grain of salt:

Body language expert Patti Wood told DailyMail.com the act was deliberate. She said: 'I knew immediately it was done purposely.

'The timing is everything - right as she corrects him he swiftly and dramatically moves to the right and looks down to the right then shuts his eyes retreat and dismissal emphasized with his closed, downward edge turned mouth of displeasure. So we know before he does it he is upset.

'Then he puts the middle finger out and puts it in the center of his forehead. This is significant as it calls attention to the action. He then lingers there, rubbing up and down. He continues in the “up down” motion as he moves it to the side. This slow motion shows it to be strategic, passive aggressive behaviour. He is very, very careful not to mess up his hair which is another reason why I know it was purposeful rather than a quick subconscious reaction.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...g-bird-female-astronaut-fact-checked-him.html
 
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Also, did I hear right that Trump said he'd have made billions if he didn't run for President?

I don't know about that. He seems to lose billions far more readily.
 
Belz... said:
I mean his style of voicing disagreement, not making gestures. In fact I've not known him to do something like that before.
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Here is an article that shows he has done it before. Not sure it is convincing, but I thought you would appreciate further information before making your decision at the ballot box.

ETA: Stacyhs linked to the same article.
 
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carlosy said:
Neither, because both are a given.

I was just looking for actual facts about how much money of these mentioned millions are really going to Mar-a-Lago. Yes, it costs millions, but most of the money is not about Mar-a-Lago. If they would go anywhere else, it would pretty much cost the same.
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Trump is making money from Mar-a-Lago mostly through having doubled the club fee once he became President and by saying nice things about those who book the place for events - there are some pics of him crashing weddings.
And then there is this Chinese Lady who sells tours of Mar-a-Lago with the opportunity to meet some of the Trumps.
The financial benefits don't all come from the taxpayers directly.
 
TragicMonkey said:
I bet he learned it from his teenaged son doing that to him a lot. Or possibly Melania. I mean, if you were them wouldn't you? I'd need surgery for repetitive stress injury to that finger.
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I wouldn't.

But then I'm British, so it would also involve my index finger.
 
Belz... said:
Also, did I hear right that Trump said he'd have made billions if he didn't run for President?
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This is absolutely a core belief within the cult of Trump. "This great man is sacrificing his wealth because he simply loves America so much, and all the traitor democrats can do is make up vicious lies about him!"
 
TragicMonkey said:
Did you watch the video? I did, and came to the opposite conclusion.
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Agreed, but not definitively so.

Most people will use their index finger to do something like that. Without thinking, touch your eyebrow. Bet you used your index finger.

Now do it, using your middle finger instead. Did you naturally fold back any other fingers while doing so? I know I don’t.

But, as I said, that motion may be natural to someone. In this case I’m pretty sure we’ll never know if Trump has malicious intent or not.
 
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Trump is making money from Mar-a-Lago mostly through having doubled the club fee once he became President and by saying nice things about those who book the place for events - there are some pics of him crashing weddings.
And then there is this Chinese Lady who sells tours of Mar-a-Lago with the opportunity to meet some of the Trumps.
The financial benefits don't all come from the taxpayers directly.
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This is definitely true. I don't think Trump misses the fact that individuals will pay extra to stay at one of his properties in an attempt to influence him. This is the man who was going to give Putin a penthouse apartment in Trump Tower Moscow as part of a strategy to get Russian oligarchs to buy properties there.
 
acbytesla said:
This is definitely true. I don't think Trump misses the fact that individuals will pay extra to stay at one of his properties in an attempt to influence him. This is the man who was going to give Putin a penthouse apartment in Trump Tower Moscow as part of a strategy to get Russian oligarchs to buy properties there.
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Just one more innocent connection with the Russians.
 
God, making a big deal about whether or not Trump gave somebody the finger is silly;it;s like accusing somebody of going past a red light when he is being investigated for murder.
 
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