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The Trump Presidency: Part 17

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Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

I want to thank Secretary of Energy Rick Perry for the outstanding job he has done. He will be leaving at the end of the year to pursue other interests. Rick was a great Governor of Texas and a great Secretary of Energy....

....He is also my friend!
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Of my friend, I can only say this. Of all the souls I have encountered in my travels, his was the most--- human.
 
acbytesla said:
But that massive military costs America a lot in the way of other benefits. Such as healthcare for all Americans and maintaining an infrastructure that is crumbling.

Take a trip to Europe and China to see shiny new train stations and airports. Bullet trains, subways and spectacular highways and bridges. The US use to have the greatest transportation system on the planet. Now it is rivaled by third world countries.
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I'll second that. I just returned from Germany yesterday and I was impressed, as I always am, by their well maintained roads and bridges and their rightfully famous public transportation systems. Even Budapest had a superior public transportation system which far outshines any I've seen in the US.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

I want to thank Secretary of Energy Rick Perry for the outstanding job he has done. He will be leaving at the end of the year to pursue other interests. Rick was a great Governor of Texas and a great Secretary of Energy....

....He is also my friend! At the same time, I am pleased to nominate Deputy Secretary Dan Brouillette to be the new Secretary of Energy. Dan’s experience in the sector is unparalleled. A total professional, I have no doubt that Dan will do a great job!
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How many people who have left the Trump adminstration call Trump a friend? I think Trump gets confused between those who know you have to flatter him and those who are his friend.
 
Minoosh said:
I've been fed up with Facebook for a long time. Not due to politics, really. I'm fact my somewhat alt-right nephew posted or re-posted an item called "Why I'm done with Facebook." Lately he's been on it, though, so someone must have told him it's cool again. He doesn't strike me as an independent thinker. I feel a little mean saying that but I'm pretty sure it's true.
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My nephew's a ****-head. I told my brother to get a paternity test, but he refuses. I don't trust that woman -- my sister-in-law. Just get a DNA test. What's the worst that could happen -- he finds out he's an uncle?
 
Is reality real? (To borrow a thread title.) The fundamental problem is not Trump, but the US society where 40-45% still hold favourable opinion on him despite all empirism, all evidence, as they get fed by Fox News and hate radio and are ever sustained by their own unfocused and uneducated, ill informed anger.

It is that support that is the problem, not this bunch of corrupt criminals (and worse) currently in power. Giant corporations thinking of the next quarter lobbying blindly against free competition and buying - mostly Republican - politicians like cartons of milk; deranged billionaires thinking of Ayn Rand; primitive, uneducated Christian fundamentalists thinking of Jesus; retro-confederates and scattered nazis thinking of some imaginary racist lilywhite past. This toxicity has now reached crisis levels and is sustaining this criminal administration in its destruction of all democratic standards and customs.
 
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acbytesla said:
It was a cheap investment to maintain stability. And Trump just pissed away those billions to save pennies.
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Well, that's just par for the course. He was willing to blow up NAFTA, which increased North American trade from about 300 billion to a trillion dollars a year, over petty **** like getting access to a few percentage points more of the 10 billion dollar Canadian milk industry. The guy is so obsessed with what things cost him, he has no appreciation for what profits they generate.

And it's what he's always done - screwing over small contractors who build him buildings that he then turns around and sells for millions of dollars. But, **** those guys, that's money out of his pocket, not into it!


Stacyhs said:
I'll second that. I just returned from Germany yesterday and I was impressed, as I always am, by their well maintained roads and bridges and their rightfully famous public transportation systems. Even Budapest had a superior public transportation system which far outshines any I've seen in the US.
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This isn't so much a matter of the US not being able to afford such things. It's the richest country in history, if they wanted these things, they'd have them. The problem is in the mindset of far too many Americans, who think that for some reason things that work well everywhere else in the world just won't work in the US.
 
llwyd said:
Is reality real? (To borrow a thread title.) The fundamental problem is not Trump, but the US society where 40-45% still hold favourable opinion on him despite all empirism, all evidence, as they get fed by Fox News and hate radio and are ever sustained by their own unfocused and uneducated, ill informed anger.

It is that support that is the problem, not this bunch of corrupt criminals (and worse) currently in power. Giant corporations thinking of the next quarter lobbying blindly against free competition and buying - mostly Republican - politicians like cartons of milk; deranged billionaires thinking of Ayn Rand; primitive, uneducated Christian fundamentalists thinking of Jesus; retro-confederates and scattered nazis thinking of some imaginary racist lilywhite past. This toxicity has now reached crisis levels and is sustaining this criminal administration in its destruction of all democratic standards and customs.
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Before you rejoice too much at the though to the US going down the tubes, remember the undertow will be big enough to pull down quite a few other democracies with it.
 
dudalb said:
Before you rejoice too much at the though to the US going down the tubes, remember the undertow will be big enough to pull down quite a few other democracies with it.
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Oh, absolutely - and I don't rejoice, my god. The US was once the arsenal of liberty. If this corruption and weakening goes on, our Finnish borders won't be safe. Fundamentally it is the strength of the West, foremost of the USA, that has kept us free.

These posts pretty much describe my attitude to the USA in international politics:

https://stockholmslender.blogspot.com/2006/02/liars-in-public-places.html
https://stockholmslender.blogspot.com/2010/03/once-arsenal-of-democracy.html
 
I also need to point out that party loyalty is so strong in the us that both major parties will get 40% of the vote no matter who they nominate.It the 20% who have made up their mind that decides elections.
 
dudalb said:
I also need to point out that party loyalty is so strong in the us that both major parties will get 40% of the vote no matter who they nominate.It the 20% who have made up their mind that decides elections.
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Yeah, if times were normal. It used to be the case that open criminality and corruption were kind of total no-go things as far as electoral success was concerned. Now one major network behaves like the Völkischer Beobachter and about 40% voters simply don't care about empirical facts, should they even encounter them in their Fox News bubble. So, no, business is not as usual.
 
Trump bungles call the female spacewalkers; has to be corrected by them live on television

"This is the first time for a woman outside of the space station," Trump, who appeared to be reading from a script, said on the phone call. "They're conducting the first-ever female spacewalk."

In fact, the first woman walked in space in 1984 — cosmonaut Svetlana Savitskaya holds that record. NASA astronaut Kathryn Sullivan became the first American woman to do so later the same year.

"You're right now on television all over the world, so don't get nervous," Trump added.

When the astronauts got the chance to respond, Jessica Meir politely corrected President Trump.

"We don't want to take too much credit because there have been many other female spacewalkers before us," Meir, who was doing her first-ever spacewalk, said. "This is just the first time that there have been two women outside at the same time, and it's really interesting for us. We've talked a lot about it up here, you know, for us, this is really just us doing our jobs. It's something we've been training for for six years."
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llwyd said:
Is reality real? (To borrow a thread title.) The fundamental problem is not Trump, but the US society where 40-45% still hold favourable opinion on him despite all empirism, all evidence, as they get fed by Fox News and hate radio and are ever sustained by their own unfocused and uneducated, ill informed anger.

It is that support that is the problem, not this bunch of corrupt criminals (and worse) currently in power. Giant corporations thinking of the next quarter lobbying blindly against free competition and buying - mostly Republican - politicians like cartons of milk; deranged billionaires thinking of Ayn Rand; primitive, uneducated Christian fundamentalists thinking of Jesus; retro-confederates and scattered nazis thinking of some imaginary racist lilywhite past. This toxicity has now reached crisis levels and is sustaining this criminal administration in its destruction of all democratic standards and customs.
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Oh my god - someone else gets it.

That's exactly what I've been saying for many years, including your next post about where America used to sit on the international approval ratings.

dudalb said:
Before you rejoice too much at the though to the US going down the tubes, remember the undertow will be big enough to pull down quite a few other democracies with it.
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What a superior response.

Not in any way is any rejoicing evident in the analysis.

Maybe the people on the other side to Trump need to look at their own attitudes as well?

llwyd said:
Oh, absolutely - and I don't rejoice, my god. The US was once the arsenal of liberty. If this corruption and weakening goes on, our Finnish borders won't be safe. Fundamentally it is the strength of the West, foremost of the USA, that has kept us free.
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Mate, you're talking far too much sense.

Yes, you'd have been speaking Russian for a while now were it not for USA and MAD.

Those days are gone - you'd best get Mutti Merkel to get those jets flying before Trump sells out to Putin completely and tears up the NATO agreement.
 
We focus so much on the corrupution and outrageous behavior we sometimes forget one thing:
Trump is just plain stupid. He has a certain skill in conning people,but other then that he is dumb as dirt and, worse, will not listen or pay attention to those who are smarter.
 
llwyd said:
Is reality real? (To borrow a thread title.) The fundamental problem is not Trump, but the US society where 40-45% still hold favourable opinion on him despite all empirism, all evidence, as they get fed by Fox News and hate radio and are ever sustained by their own unfocused and uneducated, ill informed anger.

It is that support that is the problem, not this bunch of corrupt criminals (and worse) currently in power. Giant corporations thinking of the next quarter lobbying blindly against free competition and buying - mostly Republican - politicians like cartons of milk; deranged billionaires thinking of Ayn Rand; primitive, uneducated Christian fundamentalists thinking of Jesus; retro-confederates and scattered nazis thinking of some imaginary racist lilywhite past. This toxicity has now reached crisis levels and is sustaining this criminal administration in its destruction of all democratic standards and customs.
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dudalb said:
Before you rejoice too much at the though to the US going down the tubes, remember the undertow will be big enough to pull down quite a few other democracies with it.
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llwyd said:
Oh, absolutely - and I don't rejoice, my god. The US was once the arsenal of liberty. If this corruption and weakening goes on, our Finnish borders won't be safe. Fundamentally it is the strength of the West, foremost of the USA, that has kept us free.

These posts pretty much describe my attitude to the USA in international politics:

https://stockholmslender.blogspot.com/2006/02/liars-in-public-places.html
https://stockholmslender.blogspot.com/2010/03/once-arsenal-of-democracy.html
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I've nominated that first one. Trump isn't the cause, or even the problem with today's Republican Party, he's just a symptom.
 
dudalb said:
We focus so much on the corrupution and outrageous behavior we sometimes forget one thing:
Trump is just plain stupid. He has a certain skill in conning people,but other then that he is dumb as dirt and, worse, will not listen or pay attention to those who are smarter.
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This is so true. Trump calls himself a genius and I cringe. I bet my cousin with Down Syndrome would score 20 points higher on an IQ test.
 
acbytesla said:
This is so true. Trump calls himself a genius and I cringe. I bet my cousin with Down Syndrome would score 20 points higher on an IQ test.
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And God, his ego.
I have a problem with braggarts, period...I cannot stand them ...and Donnie is one of the worst I have ever seen.
 
Trump is no isolationist - Isolationists don't send their military to fight for the highest bidder.

It's unbelievable that Trump gets to play the "bring the troops home"-card while at the same time sending way more troops to Saudi Arabia.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
Trump is no isolationist - Isolationists don't send their military to fight for the highest bidder.

It's unbelievable that Trump gets to play the "bring the troops home"-card while at the same time sending way more troops to Saudi Arabia.
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Trump is an isolationist..don't forget where he got the "America First" slogan from...unless he sees a buck can be made by intervening.
Don't get me started on Trump turning US soldiers into a bunch of goddamn Hessians in Saudi Arabia.
Of course Trump probably would not know who the Hessians were....
 
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