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The Trump Presidency: Part 17

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Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

Will be looking into the Scott Hapgood case, and the Island of Anguilla. Something looks and sounds very wrong. I know Anguilla will want to see this case be properly and justly resolved! @foxandfriends @SteveDucey @ainsleyearhardt
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Hapgood's wife appeared on Fox News yesterday, asking for Trump's help. Shocking.
A hotel handyman on drugs tried to rob Hapgood, they struggled, and the man died. Hapgood was charged with manslaughter, but an autopsy revealed it was the drugs that killed the man. Hapgood fears for his life if he returns for the trial.
 
Trump Tweets

Wow! Hunter Biden is being forced to leave a Chinese Company. Now watch the Fake News wrap their greasy and very protective arms around him. Only softball questions of him please!
 
alfaniner said:
I enjoy The Kingsmen movie, but now I don't know if I can watch it again because of its orange taint.
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I always regarded that scene as vile. The politically liberal filmmakers had church-goers spew a bunch of racist, homophobic nonsense just so they could be self-righteously slaughtered. Trump supporters have taken it up a notch by showing recognizable individuals murdered, but it's the same kind of horse-**** fantasy.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

Wow! Hunter Biden is being forced to leave a Chinese Company. Now watch the Fake News wrap their greasy and very protective arms around him. Only softball questions of him please!
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That's a bit of imagery I would say is beyond what Trump could come up himself.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

Wow! Hunter Biden is being forced to leave a Chinese Company. Now watch the Fake News wrap their greasy and very protective arms around him. Only softball questions of him please!
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According to this article, he's stepping down to avoid the appearance of a conflict of interest should his father get the nomination. This is clearly something of which Trump has no comprehension.
 
Cain said:
I always regarded that scene as vile. The politically liberal filmmakers had church-goers spew a bunch of racist, homophobic nonsense just so they could be self-righteously slaughtered. Trump supporters have taken it up a notch by showing recognizable individuals murdered, but it's the same kind of horse-**** fantasy.
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The people watching it take place were absolutely mortified as well, and the way I watched the scene the church-goers weren't under their own control when those things were said. The cell phone hate chips are what caused them to act that way.
 
Cain said:
I always regarded that scene as vile. The politically liberal filmmakers had church-goers spew a bunch of racist, homophobic nonsense just so they could be self-righteously slaughtered. Trump supporters have taken it up a notch by showing recognizable individuals murdered, but it's the same kind of horse-**** fantasy.
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plague311 said:
The people watching it take place were absolutely mortified as well, and the way I watched the scene the church-goers weren't under their own control when those things were said. The cell phone hate chips are what caused them to act that way.
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I don't know. It's a movie that was so over the top that it was impossible to take it as anything more than a cartoon.

I had a much bigger problem with Fight Club, Clockwork Orange, Taxi Driver and Natural Born Killers.
 
varwoche said:
This falls woefully short. Key ingredients are missing. Where's the racism? Where's the misogyny? Where's the self-centered infantility? These are defining characteristics. I must add: 6. Eric Cartman

Delusions of grandeur is still a tad bit lacking. Charlie the Tuna doesn't quite capture that. (Charlie is still a key ingredient though. Trying so hard to impress the big shots, but never actually making the grade.)
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You could also add Kaiser Wilhelm II
 
acbytesla said:
I don't know. It's a movie that was so over the top that it was impossible to take it as anything more than a cartoon.

I had a much bigger problem with Fight Club, Clockwork Orange, Taxi Driver and Natural Born Killers.
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*shrug* I wasn't a huge fan of the movie, for some of the reasons you said. I was just saying how I viewed it. I didn't see it as a bunch of racist homophobes got what they deserved. I saw it as a bunch of people under the influence of a hate machine said terrible things and some of them snapped.

It wasn't just the main character killing the church people, they were slaughtering each other as well.
 
varwoche said:
Seems that way here too. Lindsey Graham, the harshest critic, actually has the nerve to call Trump's tepid threat of sanctions against Turkey a "game changer".
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I’m wondering if part of this is an artifact of a normalish news cycle. The Senate hasn’t been in session which eliminates some of the posturing to sound tough. Trump is saying Kurds let ISIS prisoners out on purpose and that they can be captured again very easily - rhetoric that may not go over well with the D.C. intelligentsia.

Plus it seems blindingly obvious that Trump will never put tough sanctions on Turkey. He may even be afraid to *talk* tough. We know he’s got many financial ties to Turkey and is of course enthralled with Erdogan.

ETA: Plus I find myself reluctant to believe that Graham is the complete lickspittle that he seems to be. I know that’s probably giving him WAY too much credit. A week ago it looked like Trump was going to have a hard time recovering from his Syria surrender. Going forward it may seem like there’s little to be gained by focusing ire on Trump. That horse has bolted. But I do think some senators will still be hearing from generals, spies etc. who see the capitulation to be harmful to U.S. interests. Donald meanwhile is probably hot on the trail of pulling more troops out of conflict zones. He sees no reason in maintaining troops as preventive measures. He knows more than the generals, so there’s that.
 
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The Great Zaganza said:
Mr. Art-of-the-deal has successfully managed to sell a cup of water to a man dying of thirst:
China has to dispose of large parts of their swine population due to a serious disease. Until that it's dealt with, China needs the only supply big enough to satisfy its consumer demand. Even Trump couldn't mess this one up.
Of course, this is very temporary and doesn't address any of the core problems US farmers face.
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Temporarily they don’t need as much feed for pigs, I read. Also something about China switching in general to chickens which also require less feed. I don’t know how much finished pork we send them, but it might not be much help to grain/soy/etc. producers.
 
The Don said:
From this side of the Atlantic, it seems that Republican criticism of President Trump over the abandonment of the Kurds to their fate at the hands of Turkey has completely dried up in the last 48 hours.

Perhaps it's just because we only get a small subset of US stories but it appears that, as I feared, GOPers have decided that President Trump acted quite properly (or at least not as badly as would deserve anything other than mild criticism).
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There's a CSPAN program where people call in and one caller this morning said something to the effect that Trump was just using common language, "Say, maybe you can do me a favor." He had completely twisted the words, “I would like you to do us a favor, though.” This is without even mentioning the problem with what the favor was.

And the GOP talking points continue unabated: it's just an investigation, we don't know if there is corruption there (with Biden). No matter how many times they are told in their pundit interviews, "you are repeating lies, it is not true" the answer remains, "we don't know."

Chuck Todd and his usual failure got so far as to call it repeating a lie, but didn't point out the obvious, "You are using a known propaganda technique." I'm glad most newscasters have gotten past the 'call it a lie' barrier. Now if they could start pointing out it is a propaganda technique. Of course with that they will have to point out the difference between investigating when there is evidence and when there is nothing substantial.
 
plague311 said:
*shrug* I wasn't a huge fan of the movie, for some of the reasons you said. I was just saying how I viewed it. I didn't see it as a bunch of racist homophobes got what they deserved. I saw it as a bunch of people under the influence of a hate machine said terrible things and some of them snapped.

It wasn't just the main character killing the church people, they were slaughtering each other as well.
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I liked some scenes in the movie. But the movie as a whole? No. I never saw the sequel.

Seen worse though.
 
Armitage72 said:
There was an article quoted here or in one of the other threads suggesting that Trump is upset about not knowing who the whistleblower is because that means he can't give them a childish nickname or mock them for their looks or personal habits. Those are his main tactics for dealing with people who upset him, so he's helpless at the moment.
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Don’t people kind of “get” the whole concept of anonymous whistleblowers? I mean, even Trump supporters? Besides, a lot of that complaint Is moot anyway.

I wonder if the House will ever understand how Johnson got the quid-pro-quo impression from Sonderland, since both of them seem to be saying they never had that impression.

TofuFighter said:
trump recognises what Schiff has done and I think he's angry about it because that's his schtick.
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Maybe. I’m not sure he’s that self-aware. Either way, his fixation with the whistleblower ID and with Schiff’s statement offer clues into how best to troll Trump, if that becomes part of Dems’ strategy.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
There's a CSPAN program where people call in and one caller this morning said something to the effect that Trump was just using common language, "Say, maybe you can do me a favor." He had completely twisted the words, “I would like you to do us a favor, though.” This is without even mentioning the problem with what the favor was.
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"Though" is the new "is".

As in, "It depends on what the meaning of 'though' is."
 
The Don said:
From this side of the Atlantic, it seems that Republican criticism of President Trump over the abandonment of the Kurds to their fate at the hands of Turkey has completely dried up in the last 48 hours.
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It's a 3-day weekend here. Reporters and politicians agree amongst themselves to not say or do anything interesting for 72 hours.
 
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