LTC8K6
Penultimate Amazing
Wow!
They repel and attract the dog with little effort at all in that video.
Incredible!
They repel and attract the dog with little effort at all in that video.
Incredible!
Telekinesis
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KnotKnitWit
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The dog running the weave poles looks like an English Setter or a Great Dane cross of some sort. (The angle of the video makes me unsure. However, if you stop the video when the dog is near the 'repeller', it's head easily reaches the person's elbow.) In either case, the dog is at least as large as a Doberman and quite a bit heavier. According to this irrefutable video evidence, thelight is a piker.
thelight is doomed and you easily win another BRILLIANT!
.Just because thelight doesn't post every day doesn't mean he is running, hiding, or evading anything. There is quite possibly nothing to report. It seems his next step was going to be to seek out a trained doberman to see if any better results could be achieved.
Until then, there is little more that can be offered for advice. I continually try to put myself in the applicant's position and try to think of things that could be helpful. Right now, I think I would be asking a lot of questions to try and improve testability of my claim:
1. What is it that makes me think a trained doberman will have more anger than a trained german shepard?
2. If I test with a doberman, and don't achieve a positive result, is my assumption that dobermans get angry faulty? Or is the idea that anger is a factor faulty?
3. Going back further, what events first led me to believe this ability exists? Am I able to repeat that first encounter? Are there other explanations for what I have witnessed?
As noted, thelight, the challenge has existed in one form or another for many, many years and no applicant has passed even the preliminary test, much less the final test. It seems unlikely that it will be snatched up anytime soon (note that an existing video is of no concern, JREF would completely ignore any video sent to them. A claim must be demonstrated live to a JREF representative).
Since there is little to do for now but think, I'd recomend considering my questions above to plan for the future.
Until then, there is little more that can be offered for advice. I continually try to put myself in the applicant's position and try to think of things that could be helpful. Right now, I think I would be asking a lot of questions to try and improve testability of my claim:
1. What is it that makes me think a trained doberman will have more anger than a trained german shepard?
2. If I test with a doberman, and don't achieve a positive result, is my assumption that dobermans get angry faulty? Or is the idea that anger is a factor faulty?
3. Going back further, what events first led me to believe this ability exists? Am I able to repeat that first encounter? Are there other explanations for what I have witnessed?
As noted, thelight, the challenge has existed in one form or another for many, many years and no applicant has passed even the preliminary test, much less the final test. It seems unlikely that it will be snatched up anytime soon (note that an existing video is of no concern, JREF would completely ignore any video sent to them. A claim must be demonstrated live to a JREF representative).
Since there is little to do for now but think, I'd recomend considering my questions above to plan for the future.
AnotherSillyAlias
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I think the whole thing is either a hoax or the person is deluded, he's simply gone away because he noticed his nonsense wasn't readily accepted on face value here.
The "anger" angle of this thing is a nonsense too. A properly trained dog does NOT chase and bring down people because it is angry, it does it because it's a game for the dog, it enjoys it and gets a reward for it. I'm not even sure that dogs get "angry" as we know it. There is a little too much anthropomophism going on here IMHO.
Flange Desire
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Seems that the thelight has gone out.
Yes, I've been trying to find a suitable dog candidates.
Nope I'm not running away at all, at least not while the million dollar is hanging in front of my nose.
No I'm not irrational or delusional. I'm a regular guy that goes to the office everyday, and office work sometime makes less available time for me to concentrate on other things.
No, I'm not Dr. Alvin.
No, I will not let my friends demonstrate the telepathy or break-the-rod with the cloth thing (in fact I'm not even gonna tell them about this contest). If I do that, I would have far less than a million bucks (because I would just be a middlemen).
No, I will not demonstrate my ability to break bricks. Other martial arts can do that without using paranormal powers. It simply uses Weight x Speed.
Yes, what I will demonstrate involves paranormal powers. I'm thinking about having the dog jump in the air when attacking me, so that I can conclusively crush any doubt on my telekinetic claims. No dog (even trained ones) can reverse (or significantly alter) its trajectory in mid air. This will surely defy Newton's third law of motion. No action (at least a visible one) is needed to create an equal and opposite reaction.
Yes, in my opinion, affecting the trajectory of a moving mass object without touching is paranormal. (Pls, no silly remarks about remotely controlled car toys).
No, I don't know why anger affects this ability. I just have the ability, but I don't know how it works. I don't know why babies are born with a soul "pre-installed" in them. It just does! The thing is, the effect of my telekinetic ability is amplified in line with the level of anger. How do I measure anger? I don't know. If anyone wants to know, please find out yourself. I'm here just for the million bucks.
No, I will not use lack of anger as an excuse of failure. Either I successfully do it, or not. I'm not a scum. And furthermore, I will not even mention anger in the test protocol, and I would prefer to no longer discuss it here too. I will just prove what I can do, that's it!
Yes Mr. James Randi, paranormal exists. Please explain why babies are born with a soul. Why they can animate (laugh, cry etc), even without a software running. Please explain why the CIA spends billions on PSI (mind control), remote viewing etc.
Yes Mr. Randi, please liquidate all the bonds into cash, because I will soon win the prize.
Yes, I will win the prize!
No, I'm not doomed. In fact, the ones getting doomed are the skeptics. Their time is running out!
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Heaven and earth will pass, but love remains forever.
Nope I'm not running away at all, at least not while the million dollar is hanging in front of my nose.
No I'm not irrational or delusional. I'm a regular guy that goes to the office everyday, and office work sometime makes less available time for me to concentrate on other things.
No, I'm not Dr. Alvin.
No, I will not let my friends demonstrate the telepathy or break-the-rod with the cloth thing (in fact I'm not even gonna tell them about this contest). If I do that, I would have far less than a million bucks (because I would just be a middlemen).
No, I will not demonstrate my ability to break bricks. Other martial arts can do that without using paranormal powers. It simply uses Weight x Speed.
Yes, what I will demonstrate involves paranormal powers. I'm thinking about having the dog jump in the air when attacking me, so that I can conclusively crush any doubt on my telekinetic claims. No dog (even trained ones) can reverse (or significantly alter) its trajectory in mid air. This will surely defy Newton's third law of motion. No action (at least a visible one) is needed to create an equal and opposite reaction.
Yes, in my opinion, affecting the trajectory of a moving mass object without touching is paranormal. (Pls, no silly remarks about remotely controlled car toys).
No, I don't know why anger affects this ability. I just have the ability, but I don't know how it works. I don't know why babies are born with a soul "pre-installed" in them. It just does! The thing is, the effect of my telekinetic ability is amplified in line with the level of anger. How do I measure anger? I don't know. If anyone wants to know, please find out yourself. I'm here just for the million bucks.
No, I will not use lack of anger as an excuse of failure. Either I successfully do it, or not. I'm not a scum. And furthermore, I will not even mention anger in the test protocol, and I would prefer to no longer discuss it here too. I will just prove what I can do, that's it!
Yes Mr. James Randi, paranormal exists. Please explain why babies are born with a soul. Why they can animate (laugh, cry etc), even without a software running. Please explain why the CIA spends billions on PSI (mind control), remote viewing etc.
Yes Mr. Randi, please liquidate all the bonds into cash, because I will soon win the prize.
Yes, I will win the prize!
No, I'm not doomed. In fact, the ones getting doomed are the skeptics. Their time is running out!
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Heaven and earth will pass, but love remains forever.
Explain why babies are born with a soul? First you'd have to prove a soul exists.
And what software do you load into your babies, and do the local authorities know of this? I would imagine Department of Family Services would have something to say about this...
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I would also love to see the proof the CIA is currently spending billions on remote veiwing.
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Crying/screaming is a survival tool I guess. But laugh... Can a baby laugh when it is born?
You are not scum but you will not let your friends have a chance of winning a million dollars. Nice...
Please explain why the CIA stopped spending millions on PSI (mind control), remote viewing etc.
Flange Desire
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thelight - Nice to see you back, and glad to see that you are still firmly focussed on the prize.
It should be easy enough for you to put a protocol together, now that you have canvassed all that advice, and understand what is required.
Your post from 'baby souls' onward was quite humorous.
Good luck!
It should be easy enough for you to put a protocol together, now that you have canvassed all that advice, and understand what is required.
Your post from 'baby souls' onward was quite humorous.
Good luck!
I love the ol' cia have spent millions etc etc...Bloke, please PLEASE come up with something better then the same tired dross spread by prophets of doom. Anyway why did they stop?
I would sware that you will have more chance winning the lotto then proving to the world something that hundreds of years of dedicated, thorough, reasonable, and critical thinking science has just somehow failed to see or missed by chance.
Its blatant ignorance to dismiss all that effort and research over centuries to get humanity where it is because it does not agree with your understanding of the world. Science is about what works best, under proven conditions, time and time again. Not about what makes someone or something feel good because it agrees with some inward ethical or moral dilema.
For * sake you dont know how your thing works yet you want to 'prove' it for a million bucks. Its anger! - how do you know? you dont?? uhhhh If you cant prove it to yourself...But for us to prove your powers exist (something went awry here, isnt the burdon of proof on.....), we have to learn what you dont knowand cant prove exists and prove it exists....(then you get a million bucks)...
P H A R Q U E Am I missing the logic here????? You think scientists get together and magically pull out of the air a theory or similar? It takes YEARS of intense reasoning and critical experiment to get what some of science has discovered. Then after this totally ignorant rant you seem to convey your anger at people here because they wont take your 'theories' based on no knowledge of your own theories seriously....A A A A R R G H.....
what can I say? Im not even nearly as educated as some here....im lost...kill me...
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Thankfully, the JREF hasn't started offing folks for academic standing.
As evidence I offer that I am still here.
(and Iamme, and Kumar...)
AnotherSillyAlias
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Most interesting. Do you plan to conclusively demonstrate the existence of this "soul" at the same time as causing dogs to fly around in random directions, or are you hoping that there will be a second challenge with another million dollars you can claim?
Apply for the JREF Challenge. Today. I dare you.
AnotherSillyAlias
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Steady on zuzzy ol' chap, he has to figure out what the rules mean first.
No, you won't.
I predict: You won't even become a claimant.
Ok, I up the ante: You won't even apply.
"Steady on zuzzy"?
And: He has about a million raisins to figure out the rules.
AnotherSillyAlias
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Er.. I took the liberty of Australianising your name.
Now you made me curious: Could you please write it out in proper english? (Oopsie, no offense, my good blokes. Mates? Dang, I don't know "proper" australian slang.)
Now you made me curious: Could you please write it out in proper english? (Oopsie, no offense, my good blokes. Mates? Dang, I don't know "proper" australian slang.)
...its all good mate...