The Trump Presidency: Part 17

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a_unique_person said:
How can anyone stand listening to Trump. That ridiculous sing-song voice is the most annoying vocal affectation I have heard.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tr...ly-impeachment-push-security-costs-ilhan-omar
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I really tried to for a few minutes, intermittently. But the thought of my neighbors cheering for that pusbucket made me turn it off. If there was anything of consequence or import I'm sure I'll hear about it relentlessly on TV for the next few days.
 
varwoche said:
2/3 of both houses is a heavy lift. And 2/3 of the state assemblies is an even heavier lift, especially in a world where Trump wins the electoral college. Doesn't sound feasible.
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No, no, no. The beauty of that effort is that it does NOT require congress to act at all.
 
Horatius said:
I think this is a policy that the US needs to seriously reconsider. <snip>
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No argument here. But a good law that still honors the spirit of Free Speech is really hard to write. It's probably better to have public opinion sway so that such attacks are counterproductive.

newyorkguy said:
How about Hunter Biden?
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Good question; I have no idea.
 
CapelDodger said:
It's not outlandish that a deal can be done between Erdogan, Assad and the Kurds, but of course it's outlandish to think that Trump could have any part in brokering it. He might claim he has, but none of them would give him any credit. Putin, on the other hand, could credibly claim to have a hand in it, and has not yet betrayed the Kurds. The Kurds will no doubt believe that he might, but Putin hasn't yet proved that he will. Trump has.
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Putin probably isn't on okay terms with Turkey, though, right? Because of NATO, and because Turkey wants control of Syria, which is currently Russia's client state?

I think Trump might be uniquely cozy with both Turkey and Syria. For all we know (god, this is cynical/paranoid) Trump told Erdoğan to blow some **** up in the Kurds' turf just to be able to take credit for getting them to stop.
 
I wonder about the Second Amendment flag-wavers. Isn't this situation today their whole argument FOR retaining any amount of personal ordnance? To protect themselves from an administration that goes rogue and starts totally spoiling the whole "USA!" idea?

Because that's what the Trump administration is doing essentially. Sowing division, disharmony, war, internal and external financial hardships, ignoring the law at will, profoundly dishonouring the military they say they support, lowering the USA in the eyes of the world by unilaterally discarding treaties (OK, "trashing" would be a better verb).

So how about it, 2A folks? Is it time to start fighting back yet? Or is this just not "bad" enough yet? Or, worse still, are you actually supporting this sort of behaviour?
 
Galaxie said:
There's an alternative way. If one could get enough states to pass a bill saying their electoral votes go to the national popular vote winner, then the Electoral College would be moot.
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More importantly to getting it working, both the House and Senate don't matter one whit. That said, if it does come into play, the GOP will be on the courthouse steps the next day with a suit saying it's illegal and ask for an injunction to prevent it from being used until the suit is settled. That could take years.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

From the day I announced I was running for President, I have NEVER had a good @FoxNews Poll. Whoever their Pollster is, they suck. But @FoxNews is also much different than it used to be in the good old days. With people like Andrew Napolitano, who wanted to be a Supreme....

...Court Justice & I turned him down (he’s been terrible ever since), Shep Smith, @donnabrazile (who gave Crooked Hillary the debate questions & got fired from @CNN), & others, @FoxNews
doesn’t deliver for US anymore. It is so different than it used to be. Oh well, I’m President!
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Poor Trump. Fox News is so unfair to him.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Levies#1940s

The Iraq Levies (also known as the Assyrian Levies as they would eventually become dominated by ethnic Assyrians) was the first Iraqi military force established by the British in British controlled Iraq.[1] The Iraq Levies originated in a local Arab armed scout force raised during the First World War. After Iraq became a British Mandate, the force became a minority manned force of mostly, Iraqi Turkmen, Kurds and Assyrians who lived in the north of the country while the nascent Iraqi Army was manned by Arabs. Eventually it became a mostly Assyrian manned and British officered force while it was used mostly for the guarding of the Royal Air Force bases in Iraq.[2]

The Levies distinguished themselves in May 1941 during the Anglo-Iraqi War and were also used in other theatres of the Second World War after 1942. The force thereafter grew and survived until it was disbanded in May 1955 when control of RAF Habbaniya and RAF Shaibah was handed to Iraq.[3]
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Our President has gone past being "not even wrong" at this point.

In 1919 the force changed names twice, first to the Militia and then in July to the Iraq Levies when Iraq became a British Mandate. On 12 August 1919, the force became known as the "Arab and Kurdish Levies."[2]
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It didn't stay that name, but certainly seems to solidify their presence in the force.

My favorite part by far, though...

By 1942, the Iraq Levies consisted of a Headquarters, a Depot, Specialist Assyrian companies, 40 service companies and the 1st Parachute Company, which consisted of 75% Assyrian and 25% Kurd. The new Iraq Levies Disciplinary Code was based largely on the Indian Army Act.
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There were goddamned Kurdish airborne units and this ******* President denies it to justify stabbing their progeny in the back.

I'm through the roof.
 
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Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

From the day I announced I was running for President, I have NEVER had a good @FoxNews Poll. Whoever their Pollster is, they suck. But @FoxNews is also much different than it used to be in the good old days. With people like Andrew Napolitano, who wanted to be a Supreme....

...Court Justice & I turned him down (he’s been terrible ever since), Shep Smith, @donnabrazile (who gave Crooked Hillary the debate questions & got fired from @CNN), & others, @FoxNews
doesn’t deliver for US anymore. It is so different than it used to be. Oh well, I’m President!
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Or. The poll is correct and their opinionators such.

And since when does a President refer to fellatio in a statement?
 
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Norman Alexander said:
I wonder about the Second Amendment flag-wavers. Isn't this situation today their whole argument FOR retaining any amount of personal ordnance? To protect themselves from an administration that goes rogue and starts totally spoiling the whole "USA!" idea?

Because that's what the Trump administration is doing essentially. Sowing division, disharmony, war, internal and external financial hardships, ignoring the law at will, profoundly dishonouring the military they say they support, lowering the USA in the eyes of the world by unilaterally discarding treaties (OK, "trashing" would be a better verb).

So how about it, 2A folks? Is it time to start fighting back yet? Or is this just not "bad" enough yet? Or, worse still, are you actually supporting this sort of behaviour?
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I know it is a bit cliché, but to a lot of the 2A folks that support President Trump, those aren’t bugs, those are advertised features. To those folks, there is nothing wrong with alienating the liberals - after all they are trying their best to destroy America. As for treaties, they deserve to be trashed. These folks believe it when the president says the world has taken advantage of the USA for too long. And why would these folks think withdrawing troops is dishonoring the military?

Actually, I cannot stand President Trump and I am having a hard time getting on board with your argument. Except for ignoring the law, I don’t see any of those things as valid reasons to attempt to violently overthrow the executive branch. Citizens with guns are not going to get Trump out of the White House. In fact it will merely result in the deaths of hundreds or thousands of people.
 
Ladewig said:
I know it is a bit cliché, but to a lot of the 2A folks that support President Trump, those aren’t bugs, those are advertised features. To those folks, there is nothing wrong with alienating the liberals - after all they are trying their best to destroy America. As for treaties, they deserve to be trashed. These folks believe it when the president says the world has taken advantage of the USA for too long. And why would these folks think withdrawing troops is dishonoring the military?

Actually, I cannot stand President Trump and I am having a hard time getting on board with your argument. Except for ignoring the law, I don’t see any of those things as valid reasons to attempt to violently overthrow the executive branch. Citizens with guns are not going to get Trump out of the White House. In fact it will merely result in the deaths of hundreds or thousands of people.
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I need to use purple font more. Seriously. You didn't see that was thick, thick sarcasm?
 
alfaniner said:
I really tried to for a few minutes, intermittently. But the thought of my neighbors cheering for that pusbucket made me turn it off. If there was anything of consequence or import I'm sure I'll hear about it relentlessly on TV for the next few days.
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I only got through the first Obama line, classic projection.

Disciples in the cult. Hitler would be proud.
 
Here are the actual articles of impeachment of Nixon.

Can anybody read these and not see that all three exactly apply to Dump? The only thing that needs to be omitted are references to Watergate. Everything else is spot on.

The man has to go.
 
This may look like old news, but it isn't.

Trump attacks Sessions: A 'total disaster' and 'an embarrassment to the great state of Alabama'

By Tal Axelrod - 10/10/19 02:32 PM EDT

President Trump hammered former Attorney General Jeff Sessions Thursday, calling the tenure of the nation’s former top cop a “total disaster.”

Trump appeared to blame Sessions for failing to protect him from government investigations. Trump also praised his own efforts to defeat the so-called deep state and the “scum” in the upper echelons of the FBI.

“You look at what’s happening over at the Justice Department, now we have a great attorney general. Whereas before that, with Jeff Sessions, it was a disaster. Just a total disaster. He was an embarrassment to the great state of Alabama,” Trump told former adviser Sebastian Gorka in an interview published in the Daily Caller.

“And I put him there because he endorsed me, and he wanted it so badly. And I wish he’d never endorsed me.”
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Sessions probably wishes the same thing. Not that I feel sorry for him.

The job of the Attorney General is to protect the president from investigations, as he sees it. And Barr is doing a great job, because, again, his job is to protect the president from investigations.
 
Delphic Oracle said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Levies#1940s



Our President has gone past being "not even wrong" at this point.



It didn't stay that name, but certainly seems to solidify their presence in the force.

My favorite part by far, though...



There were goddamned Kurdish airborne units and this ******* President denies it to justify stabbing their progeny in the back.

I'm through the roof.
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Needs to be shared enough the news media picks it up.
 
George Will(!!) encapsulates my view:
In 13 months, all congressional Republicans who have not defended Congress by exercising “the constitutional rights of the place” should be defeated. If congressional Republicans continue their genuflections at Trump’s altar, the appropriate 2020 outcome will be a Republican thrashing so severe — losing the House, the Senate and the electoral votes of, say, Georgia, Arizona, North Carolina and even Texas — that even this party of slow-learning careerists might notice the hazards of tethering their careers to a downward-spiraling scofflaw.
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Puppycow said:
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The job of the Attorney General is to protect the president from investigations, as he sees it. And Barr is doing a great job, because, again, his job is to protect the president from investigations.
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Someone needs to remind Barr that Nixon's AG John Mitchell went to jail.
On February 21, 1975, Mitchell, who was represented by the criminal defense attorney William G. Hundley, was found guilty of conspiracy, obstruction of justice, and perjury and sentenced to two and a half to eight years in prison for his role in the Watergate break-in and cover-up, which he dubbed the "White House horrors." As a result of the conviction, Mitchell was disbarred from the practice of law in New York.[55] The sentence was later reduced to one to four years by United States district court Judge John J. Sirica. Mitchell served only 19 months of his sentence at Federal Prison Camp, Montgomery (in Maxwell Air Force Base) in Montgomery, Alabama, a minimum-security prison, before being released on parole for medical reasons.[56]
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