The Trump Presidency: Part 17

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Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets



We defeated 100% of the ISIS Caliphate and no longer have any troops in the area under attack by Turkey, in Syria. We did our job perfectly! Now Turkey is attacking the Kurds, who have been fighting each other for 200 years....



....We have one of three choices: Send in thousands of troops and win Militarily, hit Turkey very hard Financially and with Sanctions, or mediate a deal between Turkey and the Kurds!
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Turkey says they aren't actually in there to attack the Kurds but to fight ISIS.
 
varwoche said:
We can and should dismiss what Zelenski says. Taking him at face value is not unlike taking a hostage who is reading a prepared statement at face value.
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Quite. The more pressured he feels the more vehemently he'll deny it. What he really wants, of course, is not to have been dragged into any of this. Congress has his back, and he doesn't have to lobby hard for that.

To fix Ukraine he needs to fix the administration and the civil service, against severe pushback, and those pushing back can now try to undermine him by cosying-up to Giuliani and Trump and whispering sweet slanders in their ears.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

We defeated 100% of the ISIS Caliphate and no longer have any troops in the area under attack by Turkey, in Syria. We did our job perfectly! Now Turkey is attacking the Kurds, who have been fighting each other for 200 years....

....We have one of three choices: Send in thousands of troops and win Militarily, hit Turkey very hard Financially and with Sanctions, or mediate a deal between Turkey and the Kurds!
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Oh, I forgot this last one.
Pres. Trump wants a Nobel Peace Prize more than anything. He might have convinced himself that he can broker a deal for peace with the Kurds.
 
I know there is a lot to choose from, but for sheer Trump stupidity , the "Kurds did not help us in Normancy" remark has got to be near the top.
 
Ladewig said:
Oh, I forgot this last one.
Pres. Trump wants a Nobel Peace Prize more than anything. He might have convinced himself that he can broker a deal for peace with the Kurds.
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Trump has as much chance of winning the Nobel Peace Prize as I do for winning the Nobel for my work in chemistry. Although I have heard I have a shot at the Physics prize.
 
acbytesla said:
Trump has as much chance of winning the Nobel Peace Prize as I do for winning the Nobel for my work in chemistry. Although I have heard I have a shot at the Physics prize.
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"Shoulda won it!" :mad:
From being laughed at out loud by the UN General Assembly to the Nobel Peace Prize ... even in today's world there are still things that ain't gonna happen.
 
dudalb said:
I know there is a lot to choose from, but for sheer Trump stupidity , the "Kurds did not help us in Normancy" remark has got to be near the top.
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Worse is that "the Kurds have been fighting each other for 200 years". The reason that there are still Kurds around is that they haven't fought each other, but instead have fought together everybody else that's come along to a standstill, for thousands of years. Persians, Greeks, Romans, Arabs, Turks, the British Empire (which resorted to dropping chemical weapons on them), and still there they are, featuring on the world stage and a force to be reckoned with. The same people Xenophon described two and a half thousand years ago.

I suspect Erdogan's going to regret his campaign, and not just because of anything the US does. Kurds are the definitive enemy that plans do not survive first contact with.
 
kellyb said:
I don't think it's all that outlandish that he could. He's friendly with both Erdoğan and Assad.

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It's not outlandish that a deal can be done between Erdogan, Assad and the Kurds, but of course it's outlandish to think that Trump could have any part in brokering it. He might claim he has, but none of them would give him any credit. Putin, on the other hand, could credibly claim to have a hand in it, and has not yet betrayed the Kurds. The Kurds will no doubt believe that he might, but Putin hasn't yet proved that he will. Trump has.
 
CapelDodger said:
Worse is that "the Kurds have been fighting each other for 200 years". The reason that there are still Kurds around is that they haven't fought each other, but instead have fought together everybody else that's come along to a standstill, for thousands of years. Persians, Greeks, Romans, Arabs, Turks, the British Empire (which resorted to dropping chemical weapons on them), and still there they are, featuring on the world stage and a force to be reckoned with. The same people Xenophon described two and a half thousand years ago.

I suspect Erdogan's going to regret his campaign, and not just because of anything the US does. Kurds are the definitive enemy that plans do not survive first contact with.
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I believe there are ancient Assyrian writings complaining about the Kurds. You had to be a special kind of tough to irritate the ancient Assyrians.
 
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