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The Trump Presidency: Part 17

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Sadly, this isn't the first time the Americans screw the Kurds.

(Note: Extremely simplified history by non-expert ahead)

To be fair, its only fairly recently the US has been screwing the Kurds. They were screwed over when post-WWI Allied map makers decided to break up the Kurdish ethnic region and split it up among other countries in an international gerrymander. The resulting middle-eastern countries were weakened by adding large numbers of people who didn't want to be part of the country, and the Kurds were denied any nation where they held effective political power.

Since then, the Kurds keep trying to hitch their wagon to anyone who whispers the word "Kurdistan" in their ear. Sadly for them, all these deals eventually fall apart because their idea of "Kurdistan" takes up chunks of Iran, Iraq, Turkey and Syria, and there is no way to really give them any actual land without pissing them all off. Even only sort of taking a chunk from just one country like "Iraqi Kurdistan" gets the others buying guns and watching their borders closely.
 
Now Trump says that Pelosi should be impeached. Are the staffers reluctant to inform him that Reps/Senators aren't subject to impeachment? After all, they know that crossing the tiny-handed Doofus-in-Chief can lead to a trip to the corn field.

No you're the puppet!
 
Now Trump says that Pelosi should be impeached. Are the staffers reluctant to inform him that Reps/Senators aren't subject to impeachment? After all, they know that crossing the tiny-handed Doofus-in-Chief can lead to a trip to the corn field.

No you're the puppet!
I don't think that's ever been tested. One senator (or congressman?) was expelled and impeached the same time. Since both acts have the same effect, the impeachment was not tested in court.

But you're right that impeachment in the Constitution seems to exclude the legislative branch.

This is from a half remembered article somewhere.
 
Trump Tweets

The United States was supposed to be in Syria for 30 days, that was many years ago. We stayed and got deeper and deeper into battle with no aim in sight. When I arrived in Washington, ISIS was running rampant in the area. We quickly defeated 100% of the ISIS Caliphate,.....

....including capturing thousands of ISIS fighters, mostly from Europe. But Europe did not want them back, they said you keep them USA! I said “NO, we did you a great favor and now you want us to hold them in U.S. prisons at tremendous cost. They are yours for trials.” They.....

.....again said “NO,” thinking, as usual, that the U.S. is always the “sucker,” on NATO, on Trade, on everything. The Kurds fought with us, but were paid massive amounts of money and equipment to do so. They have been fighting Turkey for decades. I held off this fight for....

....almost 3 years, but it is time for us to get out of these ridiculous Endless Wars, many of them tribal, and bring our soldiers home. WE WILL FIGHT WHERE IT IS TO OUR BENEFIT, AND ONLY FIGHT TO WIN. Turkey, Europe, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Russia and the Kurds will now have to.....

...figure the situation out, and what they want to do with the captured ISIS fighters in their “neighborhood.” They all hate ISIS, have been enemies for years. We are 7000 miles away and will crush ISIS again if they come anywhere near us!
 
I'm noticing that Donny keeps lashing out harder and louder because the Dems simply don't respond to his last wild flailing. Has anyone seen any direct response from them to his antics? I don't seem to recall any specifically. Sure, there's subpoenas and impeachment investigations, and comments to the public about the shameful behaviour. But no retaliatory responses directly to Donny from any Dems. Must be driving Donny mad that they aren't falling for his name-calling.

Good.
 
Trump Tweets

The United States was supposed to be in Syria for 30 days, that was many years ago. We stayed and got deeper and deeper into battle with no aim in sight. When I arrived in Washington, ISIS was running rampant in the area. We quickly defeated 100% of the ISIS Caliphate,.....

....including capturing thousands of ISIS fighters, mostly from Europe. But Europe did not want them back, they said you keep them USA! I said “NO, we did you a great favor and now you want us to hold them in U.S. prisons at tremendous cost. They are yours for trials.” They.....

.....again said “NO,” thinking, as usual, that the U.S. is always the “sucker,” on NATO, on Trade, on everything. The Kurds fought with us, but were paid massive amounts of money and equipment to do so. They have been fighting Turkey for decades. I held off this fight for....

....almost 3 years, but it is time for us to get out of these ridiculous Endless Wars, many of them tribal, and bring our soldiers home. WE WILL FIGHT WHERE IT IS TO OUR BENEFIT, AND ONLY FIGHT TO WIN. Turkey, Europe, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Russia and the Kurds will now have to.....

...figure the situation out, and what they want to do with the captured ISIS fighters in their “neighborhood.” They all hate ISIS, have been enemies for years. We are 7000 miles away and will crush ISIS again if they come anywhere near us!

What on Earth IS this nonsense?? A pathetic attempt to explain his abject failure as an international dealer? I'm seeing Miller behind this - he loathes Muslims and this is his "revenge" on them being allies.
 
Trump Tweets

“IG: DECLASSIFIED INFORMATION CONTRADICTS THE WHISTLEBLOWER.” @foxandfriends
But why are people surprised? The “partisan” Whistleblower was very wrong on what was said on my perfect, “no pressure,” call with the Ukrainian President. Bring in another Whistleblower from the bench!
 
Trump Tweets

“IG: DECLASSIFIED INFORMATION CONTRADICTS THE WHISTLEBLOWER.” @foxandfriends
But why are people surprised? The “partisan” Whistleblower was very wrong on what was said on my perfect, “no pressure,” call with the Ukrainian President. Bring in another Whistleblower from the bench!

I love that Trump doesn't know that scare quotes imply the content is misleading, rather than emphasis.
 
Trump Tweets

We just WON the big court case on Net Neutrality Rules! A great win for the future and speed of the internet. Will lead to many big things including 5G. Congratulations to the FCC and its Chairman, Ajit Pai!
 
Trump Tweets

We just WON the big court case on Net Neutrality Rules! A great win for the future and speed of the internet. Will lead to many big things including 5G. Congratulations to the FCC and its Chairman, Ajit Pai!

The Party is telling the exact opposite of truth, to the surprise of no one. At least Trump's SCOTUS is allowing individual States to enact their own net-neutrality rules.
 
I have a feeling these forums just reinforced opinions you had anyway.

To be fair the system is working great at increasing the divide between the haves and have not's. That shift toward a proper oligarchy has been a real success of the conservative movement for the past 40 years.
 
Trump Tweets

“Incomes much higher under Trump than Bush, Obama.” @foxandfriends And almost everything else is better also (except I am driving the Deep State, and the Radical Left, Do Nothing Democrats, CRAZY)!

Heritage Foundation “These numbers are blockbusters. Just since Donald Trump took office, Median Family Incomrs are up over $4,100. In 8 years under President Obama, they only went up $1000. In one third the time, President Trump has increased incomes 4 times as much, and that...

....doesn’t even include the almost $2000 that the families got from the Trump Tax Cut.” Stephen Moore, Freedomworks That means $5000 to $6000 more in disposable yearly income that Americans have right now because of President Trump!
 
In the case where NY state is trying to obtain Trump's tax returns, and where Trump claimed that a POTUS cannot even be investigated, a federal judge smacked down that nonsense.

Judge said:
...repugnant to the nation’s governmental structure and constitutional values
 
Trump Tweets

The Radical Left Democrats have failed on all fronts, so now they are pushing local New York City and State Democrat prosecutors to go get President Trump. A thing like this has never happened to any President before. Not even close!
 
I'm noticing that Donny keeps lashing out harder and louder because the Dems simply don't respond to his last wild flailing. Has anyone seen any direct response from them to his antics? I don't seem to recall any specifically. Sure, there's subpoenas and impeachment investigations, and comments to the public about the shameful behaviour. But no retaliatory responses directly to Donny from any Dems. Must be driving Donny mad that they aren't falling for his name-calling.

Good.

Meanwhile from Badscience:

liverpoolmiss said:
!!! LAST CHANCE !!!

Important Notice to all holders of Trump Vouchers

Please be aware that Trump Vouchers will soon expire* and become worthless**. If you invested and haven't yet cashed them in, ACT NOW. This will be your last opportunity to invade a neighbouring country or obtain classified information or make millions from dubious deals.

DO NOT DELAY



*Vouchers are expected to become worthless by the end of the month but could be earlier in the event of a meltdown
**Vouchers might be honoured by President Pence but this can not be guaranteed
 
Trump Tweets

We just WON the big court case on Net Neutrality Rules! A great win for the future and speed of the internet. Will lead to many big things including 5G.
Just wondering... where exactly did he get the idea that they had to overturn Net Neutrality in order to bring in 5G?

5G is for mobile data. I can't think of any reason net neutrality would have negatively impacted the rollout of improved cellular technology.

The Party is telling the exact opposite of truth, to the surprise of no one. At least Trump's SCOTUS is allowing individual States to enact their own net-neutrality rules.
Yup. I read up a little on this, and from the looks of it it is worse than the situation the networks had under Obama.

Back before the republicans started messing about, everyone (including network providers) knew that they had a certain uniform set of rules they had to follow. Now, since the federal government has said "we abdicate all responsibility", the courts have said "Ok, the states can set the rules". Now, your network providers will have to contend with a hodgepodge of rules, and will probably end up conforming to the worst possible situation.

https://qz.com/1721633/us-net-neutralitys-crushing-defeat-this-week-may-end-up-saving-it/
 
Trump Tweets

“Incomes much higher under Trump than Bush, Obama.” @foxandfriends And almost everything else is better also (except I am driving the Deep State, and the Radical Left, Do Nothing Democrats, CRAZY)!

Heritage Foundation “These numbers are blockbusters. Just since Donald Trump took office, Median Family Incomrs are up over $4,100. In 8 years under President Obama, they only went up $1000. In one third the time, President Trump has increased incomes 4 times as much, and that...
It of course ignores the fact that when Obama became president, he inherited an economy that was basically in freefall. He had to stop the decline before things could start to improve.

Trump basically inherited an economy where incomes had been growing since around 2012-2013.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States

....doesn’t even include the almost $2000 that the families got from the Trump Tax Cut.” Stephen Moore, Freedomworks That means $5000 to $6000 more in disposable yearly income that Americans have right now because of President Trump!
I suspect it probably also doesn't include the money that the average family will be paying thanks to Trump's Tariffs.

Nor does it account for the fact that thanks to those tax cuts, the government's deficit has increased, and all that borrowed money will eventually have to be paid back.
 
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