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The Trump Presidency: Part 17

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If that perfect phone call with the President of Ukraine Isn’t considered appropriate, then no future President can EVER again speak to another foreign leader!

IT WAS A PERFECT CONVERSATION WITH UKRAINE PRESIDENT!
 
I think it's a safe bet that Trump is unfamiliar with the history and the play about it surrounding that particular event.
 
Trump Tweets

Iran wanted me to lift the sanctions imposed on them in order to meet. I said, of course, NO!
 
Captain_Swoop said:
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Iran wanted me to lift the sanctions imposed on them in order to meet. I said, of course, NO!
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Geee, I can't understand why Iran would want to go into negotiations with an incompetent narcissist who regularly lies and breaks deals without getting some sort of conciliation first.

It takes a special type of stupid for a president of the U.S. to take Iran (you know, the country that held U.S. citizens hostage for several months, and contributes to middle eastern terrorism) and turn them into a somewhat sympathetic figure.
 
Perfect is an interesting description of a phone call with a foreign leader...

Perfect because a specific policy goal was achieved?
Perfect because we made a new ally?
Perfect because Trump didn't commit a terrible faux-pas?
 
phiwum said:
Um.

So was the apostrophe an accent ague? Is the totally not misspelled word pronounced "lid-lay"?

Shame on CNN for thinking that the apostrophe didn't make everything just right.
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I was thinking the same thing! What on earth was that mark there for? Neither an apostrophe nor an accent aigu make sense. Wait...I'm expecting Trump tweets to make sense? What was I thinking?
 
The Great Zaganza said:
Perfect is an interesting description of a phone call with a foreign leader...

Perfect because a specific policy goal was achieved?
Perfect because we made a new ally?
Perfect because Trump didn't commit a terrible faux-pas?
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Perfect because he didn't get strangled by the phone cord during the conversation?
Perfect because he managed to hang up the phone properly without accidentally crushing his own fingers under the receiver?
 
The Shrike said:
"It wasn’t bad, it was very legal and very good."

He also seems to be doubling down on the 2nd grade vocabulary.The dementia-watchers interpret these as signs of his cognitive decline. If not that, then what? Does he do this purposefully because he thinks he's communicating with simpletons in his base?
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"Very legal"? Something's either legal or not; there is no 'very' legal. He speaks and writes like a child.
 
Segnosaur said:
Perfect because he didn't get strangled by the phone cord during the conversation?
Perfect because he managed to hang up the phone properly without accidentally crushing his own fingers under the receiver?
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He finally figured out not to push the phone buttons while the conversation was still happening.
 
uke2se said:
Having not actually read the law, and relying solely on second hand information, I'll bow to your more informed opinion.
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I still hear folks more informed than me saying that Maguire should not have consulted the OLC, that the law required him to simply turn over the complaint once the inspector general had said it was urgent and credible.

So, do take my comments with a grain of salt. I don't know that there's a consensus on whether Maguire acted appropriately. Thus far, he seems to have done what he thought was right I think, but this is merely based on impressions from some of his comments during the hearing and so is also up for debate.
 
Random said:
The Justice Department is run by Bill Barr, who Trump mentions by name in the "Transcript" as someone Trump will tell to call the Ukrainian government to "get to the bottom" of the Biden allegations.

Did Barr know about the DoJ going through the process to make that determination? Did he recuse himself from the discussion? Barr might argue that the DoJ decision was correct, but he should not have been the one making that decision in the first place.
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I don't know whether Barr interfered with the OLC determination. I think I've heard that he was out of the loop on that part of the review but not on the question of whether Trump's call might be a campaign finance law violation, but can't say where I've heard it.
 
phiwum said:
I still hear folks more informed than me saying that Maguire should not have consulted the OLC, that the law required him to simply turn over the complaint once the inspector general had said it was urgent and credible.

So, do take my comments with a grain of salt. I don't know that there's a consensus on whether Maguire acted appropriately. Thus far, he seems to have done what he thought was right I think, but this is merely based on impressions from some of his comments during the hearing and so is also up for debate.
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My impression, FWIW, is that he was using standard operating procedure: when in doubt, get a superior to make a decision that you're happy to follow, especially since he had been on the job for - what, 3 seconds?

But the whole issue of checking to see if executive privilege would be an issue doesn't matter, because the law says, just send the damn thing to Congress in 7 days. If the White House wanted to assert executive privilege, that's their problem.

Executive privelge could very well be an issue for blowing the whistle on someone *other* than the President if that person had spoken to the president about the issue getting blown (not the most artful way of saying that, but you get the drift). So the law doesn't care one white about Executive privilege, the DNI has just got to send the damn thing along.

So Maguire made a bad judgment in a job he never sought and had just gotten after a long period of great service. Can't get tooo mad at him, especially since Congress has the info now.
 
Stacyhs said:
I was thinking the same thing! What on earth was that mark there for? Neither an apostrophe nor an accent aigu make sense. Wait...I'm expecting Trump tweets to make sense? What was I thinking?
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Neither does a hyphen. So (echoing your post), WTF was that there for?
 
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