Trump Impeachment: What crimes to include

[Donal]

I would imagine the mechanics of the impeachment inquiry. Probably a special p[anel or something to review specific events and documents.

 

[Donal]

Yea like that stopped white water and would have preventing anything had they turned up clear felonies on the part of clinton. If Bill committed felonies in white water he would have been impeached and convicted. Seriously "sure he committed some felonies and should go to prison for years because of it but they were before he was president." 5 years ago anyone saying such crap would be thought of as truly insane.

Are we sure we want to turn into Italy where becoming President turns out to be a good way to prevent you from going to prison?

Like I said before, I would love for this to be an issue or right or wrong, but there is a political calculus involved.

FEC violations are not the biggest crimes he can charged with.

 

[ponderingturtle]

It's a real crime, but how serious is another matter. That's why judges have leeway in sentencing.

Yep why all the lying to congress by this administration and Trumps family is totally fine, that is clearly the good kind of lying under oath.

Seriously with how many people in this administration and trump family have lied under oath they are going to pretend they care about it for a question in a civil case that got thrown out that shouldn't even have been asked?

I guess sure lying under oath about banging porn stars is fine, but not about banging the intern? And congress was wrong to ask the attorney general candidates about russian connections, that is blatantly illegal to ask or something.

This is the wrong administration to take a stance about perjury.

 

[ponderingturtle]

Like I said before, I would love for this to be an issue or right or wrong, but there is a political calculus involved.

FEC violations are not the biggest crimes he can charged with.

Oh I agree, but they are clear felonies we know he committed like the obstruction of justice. The problem is that republicans love these crimes. He is now braging about tying Ukranian funding to biden investigations. They love how blatant his crimes are.

 

[Ian Osborne]

Trump's chants of "Lock her up. Lock her up" during the election are looking increasingly ironic.

 

[Brainster]

Did he ever pick his feet in Poughkeepsie?

 

[portlandatheist]

Nate Silver at 538 has some impeachment advice:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/feature...ssia-was-unpopular-will-ukraine-be-different/

Lesson No. 1: Be narrow and specific, perhaps with a near-exclusive focus on Ukraine
Lesson No. 2: Don’t overpromise on details unless you can deliver.
Lesson No. 3: Emphasize the threats to election integrity.
Lesson No. 4: Stay unified.
Lesson No. 5: Work quickly and urgently.

 

[JoeMorgue]

Nate Silver at 538 has some impeachment advice:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/feature...ssia-was-unpopular-will-ukraine-be-different/

I'd agree with all of those.

 

[JoeMorgue]

I am however extremely disappointed in America in that we haven't yet bestowed a code name based upon a porn movie title to the whistleblower.

 

[Donal]

How about "Stormy" ?

 

[johnny karate]

That's not interesting at all. The Republicans are underreacting, the Democrats are overreacting. That is pretty boring, politics as usual type stuff. The specifics of which charge(s) the Democrats are going to commit to as the The One Thing For Real This Time, are kind of interesting.

Ranting about how the Republicans are unwilling to impeach might have been interesting a couple years ago, when it had some chance of being a novel insight.

And "Repugnicans" must have been interesting for all of about 30 seconds after it was first coined.

Just to recap: theprestige thinks this is boring and uninteresting.

And he's been kind enough to post three times in this thread already to let us all know how bored and uninterested he is.

 

[ponderingturtle]

How about "Stormy" ?

Apparently no one cares about those felonies. Just like the obstruction of justice. That is all presidential in republican eyes.

 

[Donal]

Just to recap: theprestige thinks this is boring and uninteresting.

And he's been kind enough to post three times in this thread already to let us all know how bored and uninterested he is.

Ya, I figured out a while ago you go right past his "contributions" to these discussions.

 

[theprestige]

So what are we gonna hear at 5 from Pelosi? Just a vague "We're going forward" or actual like detailed "Here's what we are starting impeachment proceedings on, bullet form, accusations X, Y, and Z, the whole show starts a 8:00 on this day" kind of thing?

Not sure she'd want to telegraph her game plan to Trump's lawyers any earlier than strictly necessary.

 

[Segnosaur]

Not sure she'd want to telegraph her game plan to Trump's lawyers any earlier than strictly necessary.

Hopefully Trump will add Giuliani to his crack legal defense team.

 

[theprestige]

Just to recap: theprestige thinks this is boring and uninteresting.

And he's been kind enough to post three times in this thread already to let us all know how bored and uninterested he is.

What's "this", in your analysis?

 

[johnny karate]

What's "this", in your analysis?

The multiple things in your quoted post that you deemed boring or uninteresting.

 

[dudalb]

I am however extremely disappointed in America in that we haven't yet bestowed a code name based upon a porn movie title to the whistleblower.

Deep Throat 2 seems the obvious choice.....

 

[theprestige]

The multiple things in your quoted post that you deemed boring or uninteresting.

More of a "these", then, but whatever.

Which "this" have I posted about three times in this thread?

 

[theprestige]

Deep Throat 2 seems the obvious choice.....

In the same way that making a sequel instead of coming up with something original seems like an obvious choice to Hollywood.